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Post by waterboy on Aug 9, 2015 22:52:07 GMT
Enforcers are overrated. 99% of fights are a wrestling match with a take down and has no bearing on the outcome. Tight defence and goals at the other end win hockey games. Don't get me wrong I like watching a fight but it's a sideshow. Got to ask the question why are the NHL teams getting rid of fighters? Quite right no one ever won a hockey game through being physical and intimidating the opposition. The NHL still has fighters the one dimensional fighters are dying out. We won more games with Matt than without him. |
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Post by jambitink on Aug 10, 2015 7:47:48 GMT
Enforcers are overrated. 99% of fights are a wrestling match with a take down and has no bearing on the outcome. Tight defence and goals at the other end win hockey games. Don't get me wrong I like watching a fight but it's a sideshow. Got to ask the question why are the NHL teams getting rid of fighters? NHL is getting rid of out and out fighters to clean up the sport after a series of high profile suicides from old time enforcers.. There is and always will be a place for players that can drop the gloves. Didn't flyers dress Nickerson last year and just sit him on the bench when he was injured? That's how important of a player he was for Fife. Next year when Belfast come to town and one of our players steps out of line and Matt comes calling. Are any of the current squad going to step up and put him in his place? Only time will tell. |
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Post by amazepux on Aug 10, 2015 9:09:23 GMT
Enforcers are overrated. 99% of fights are a wrestling match with a take down and has no bearing on the outcome. Tight defence and goals at the other end win hockey games. Don't get me wrong I like watching a fight but it's a sideshow. Got to ask the question why are the NHL teams getting rid of fighters? NHL is getting rid of out and out fighters to clean up the sport after a series of high profile suicides from old time enforcers.. There is and always will be a place for players that can drop the gloves. Didn't flyers dress Nickerson last year and just sit him on the bench when he was injured? That's how important of a player he was for Fife. Next year when Belfast come to town and one of our players steps out of line and Matt comes calling. Are any of the current squad going to step up and put him in his place? Only time will tell. yeah Danny Stewart will..and that will diffuse the intimidation cos Matt wont fight him...I do not think will fight any of our guys at home..and I dont think we'll have a cheapshotter (which Jordan Fulton could be at times) |
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Post by redtussell44 on Aug 10, 2015 9:30:06 GMT
NHL is getting rid of out and out fighters to clean up the sport after a series of high profile suicides from old time enforcers.. There is and always will be a place for players that can drop the gloves. Didn't flyers dress Nickerson last year and just sit him on the bench when he was injured? That's how important of a player he was for Fife. Next year when Belfast come to town and one of our players steps out of line and Matt comes calling. Are any of the current squad going to step up and put him in his place? Only time will tell. yeah Danny Stewart will..and that will diffuse the intimidation cos Matt wont fight him...I do not think will fight any of our guys at home..and I dont think we'll have a cheapshotter (which Jordan Fulton could be at times) Hahahahaha Danny Stewart? You're a silly goose. Nicker has a job to do, just like when he was in Fife. If someone has a late slash on the goalie,or lands a big hit, you're telling me Nicker won't do anything? And if he does we have Danny Stewart to keep him quiet?? Hahaha. Nicker would happily destroy any flyer he chooses this year. Because that's his job as a BELFAST GIANT. |
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Post by redtussell44 on Aug 10, 2015 9:31:38 GMT
Enforcers are overrated. 99% of fights are a wrestling match with a take down and has no bearing on the outcome. Tight defence and goals at the other end win hockey games. Don't get me wrong I like watching a fight but it's a sideshow. Got to ask the question why are the NHL teams getting rid of fighters? NHL is getting rid of out and out fighters to clean up the sport after a series of high profile suicides from old time enforcers.. There is and always will be a place for players that can drop the gloves. Didn't flyers dress Nickerson last year and just sit him on the bench when he was injured? That's how important of a player he was for Fife. Next year when Belfast come to town and one of our players steps out of line and Matt comes calling. Are any of the current squad going to step up and put him in his place? Only time will tell. Someone with sense on this forum. 100% agree with everything you've said. |
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Post by coloradoflyer on Aug 10, 2015 9:45:22 GMT
Might be more the fact they use keefe or lloyd for fife games and use nicker against others
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Post by flyer31 on Aug 10, 2015 10:03:42 GMT
Belfast's coach stated they brought nicker in to fight and if they're down by two goals to cause a fight.
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Post by harlan on Aug 10, 2015 10:34:09 GMT
Belfast's coach stated they brought nicker in to fight and if they're down by two goals to cause a fight. As far as I am aware Walser hasn't said a thing to anybody yet since his appointment. It would more than likely have been Thornton that said this when he signed Nickerson and he has now gone to GM and maybe Walser will see Nickerson in a slightly different role |
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Post by swarfiga on Aug 10, 2015 10:59:15 GMT
NHL is getting rid of out and out fighters to clean up the sport after a series of high profile suicides from old time enforcers.. There is and always will be a place for players that can drop the gloves. Didn't flyers dress Nickerson last year and just sit him on the bench when he was injured? That's how important of a player he was for Fife. Next year when Belfast come to town and one of our players steps out of line and Matt comes calling. Are any of the current squad going to step up and put him in his place? Only time will tell. yeah Danny Stewart will..and that will diffuse the intimidation cos Matt wont fight him...I do not think will fight any of our guys at home..and I dont think we'll have a cheapshotter (which Jordan Fulton could be at times) Matt won't fight him? He almost threw him about when they were on the same team!! He'll probably want to destroy him more than most, and could at ease if he chooses too. Danny Stewart haha classic |
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Post by flyer31 on Aug 10, 2015 11:17:08 GMT
Belfast's coach stated they brought nicker in to fight and if they're down by two goals to cause a fight. As far as I am aware Walser hasn't said a thing to anybody yet since his appointment. It would more than likely have been Thornton that said this when he signed Nickerson and he has now gone to GM and maybe Walser will see Nickerson in a slightly different role My apologies, your right it was Thornton that made the statement regarding Nicker. |
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Post by jambitink on Aug 10, 2015 12:03:21 GMT
Might be more the fact they use keefe or lloyd for fife games and use nicker against others Why would they do that? Belfast couldn't care less who Nickerson played for last year. He will have a job to do for the sake of Belfast Giants. |
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Post by jambitink on Aug 10, 2015 12:04:55 GMT
NHL is getting rid of out and out fighters to clean up the sport after a series of high profile suicides from old time enforcers.. There is and always will be a place for players that can drop the gloves. Didn't flyers dress Nickerson last year and just sit him on the bench when he was injured? That's how important of a player he was for Fife. Next year when Belfast come to town and one of our players steps out of line and Matt comes calling. Are any of the current squad going to step up and put him in his place? Only time will tell. yeah Danny Stewart will..and that will diffuse the intimidation cos Matt wont fight him...I do not think will fight any of our guys at home..and I dont think we'll have a cheapshotter (which Jordan Fulton could be at times) Have you seen all of the new imports play? If they are a tough gritty team which appears to be the direction they are heading there will be cheapshots galore this season |
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Post by jimmer on Aug 10, 2015 12:22:12 GMT
www.theplayerstribune.com/why-we-fight/Might be worth a read, Brandon Prust's view on fighting. In short he says tough guys are needed to stop the dirty behind play stick work and injuries etc. even says himself pretty much that he cheap shot his own friend because he knew none of the other team would do anything about it
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Post by devonflyersfan on Aug 10, 2015 12:27:11 GMT
I've gone for having one out and out enforcer in the Nickerson mode. However having one player as an enforcer and a few others willing to drop the gloves would do no harm for team moral, and would put a few extra bums on seats in my opinion as well. Nickerson must have added an extra couple of hundred bums on seats so having a player like that pretty much pays for itself in terms of extra revenue.
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Post by thebear on Aug 10, 2015 21:50:12 GMT
Todd & Danny did say they wont be bringing in an enforcer like Nickerson, does that mean they might still bring in some sort of enforcer though? Maybe a big guy who doesn't go about looking for a fight but more someone who will answer the call of a fight if another teams goon is knocking everyone around or someone taking cheapshots he will sort him out? IMO That is what we need, yeah Nickerson was great to watch and stood up for the team but I will admit he was a bit uncontrollable it seemed. The DOPS & refs did seem to have it in for him though. If we can sign a big guy who is a great fighter but won't do anything silly inbetween fights and take the suspensions, along with our "Tough & Gritty" forwards then I would hope we wont be the whipping team this season
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