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Post by tackleberry on Oct 6, 2015 10:29:30 GMT
I can see this happening at clubs if the previous Captain has moved on. This doesn't apply to us as Kyle Haines is still playing with us and indeed started this season as captain. I wonder if his indifferent performances this season has anything to do with him being stripped of the captaincy?
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Post by riverrat on Oct 6, 2015 11:29:31 GMT
I can see this happening at clubs if the previous Captain has moved on. This doesn't apply to us as Kyle Haines is still playing with us and indeed started this season as captain. I wonder if his indifferent performances this season has anything to do with him being stripped of the captaincy? Very much doubt he'd be stripped of it .Flyers don't have a great record of changing things promptly if they're not working, do they? I would imagine Haines would be involved in the decision making process. |
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Post by amazepux on Oct 6, 2015 12:34:43 GMT
Maybe the coaching team know exactly what theyre doing...is Haines deserving of maintaining the 'C' or maybe theres others who could do it better? So instead of completely removing the responsibility from him he is made one of the Alternates. Might work..lets wait and see first before slating the coaches eh!...oh I forgot that unmerited criticism and guesswork is the standard general default position for most on here.
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Post by finchy on Oct 6, 2015 13:04:04 GMT
Maybe the coaching team know exactly what theyre doing...is Haines deserving of maintaining the 'C' or maybe theres others who could do it better? So instead of completely removing the responsibility from him he is made one of the Alternates. Might work..lets wait and see first before slating the coaches eh!... oh I forgot that unmerited criticism and guesswork is the standard general default position for most on here. posters on here give out unmerited criticism? Most? Don't talk rubbish-seriously. Maybe people think your negative comments about the new goalie are unmerited? This actually seems to be YOUR default position when people's opinions differ from yours i.e. that everyone is automatically negative. There's as much chance at this stage of this arrangement working or not working- some people think it won't work, some like you, think it might. Fancy that on a forum eh? |
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Post by sjam1987 on Oct 6, 2015 14:12:54 GMT
I believe dundee have done something similar! wetmore was announced as there captain but only had an A on his jersey on Sunday! I honestly don't see a problem with it and probably neither does haines! where is the problem with sharing the responsibility! dingle is a fantastic choice if you ask me, natural leader and constantly talking to guys out on the ice. apart from that the guy is just a class hockey player
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Post by amazepux on Oct 6, 2015 15:40:03 GMT
Maybe the coaching team know exactly what theyre doing...is Haines deserving of maintaining the 'C' or maybe theres others who could do it better? So instead of completely removing the responsibility from him he is made one of the Alternates. Might work..lets wait and see first before slating the coaches eh!... oh I forgot that unmerited criticism and guesswork is the standard general default position for most on here. posters on here give out unmerited criticism? Most? Don't talk rubbish-seriously. Maybe people think your negative comments about the new goalie are unmerited? This actually seems to be YOUR default position when people's opinions differ from yours i.e. that everyone is automatically negative. There's as much chance at this stage of this arrangement working or not working- some people think it won't work, some like you, think it might. Fancy that on a forum eh? I have not been negative about Dave Brown... |
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Post by Dirkster23 on Oct 6, 2015 16:01:42 GMT
Most posters on here give out unmerited criticism? Most? Don't talk rubbish-seriously. Maybe people think your negative comments about the new goalie are unmerited? This actually seems to be YOUR default position when people's opinions differ from yours i.e. that everyone is automatically negative. There's as much chance at this stage of this arrangement working or not working- some people think it won't work, some like you, think it might. Fancy that on a forum eh? I have not been negative about Dave Brown... Looks like someone's hacked your account then! |
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Post by redtussell44 on Oct 6, 2015 19:35:55 GMT
I have not been negative about Dave Brown... Looks like someone's hacked your account then! Ahahahaha! Served. |
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Post by zamboni on Oct 6, 2015 20:04:52 GMT
Bonkers idea if you ask me. Can only imagine what Haines thinks about having the 'C' effectively taken away from him. Anyone ever heard of this being done before? Happens in the NHL sometimes, usually when a C moves on and numerous senior pros lead the room. Not sure why Haines wouldn't get it back. Unless he didn't want it. Dingle seems a natural leader and someone who's constantly positive .Hopefully it rubs off .Not sure what Fox brings. Doesn't appear to lead on ice but you never know. Bobby Chaumont didn't seem a leader of men either but apparently was. Unless you have access to training sessions and present in the room what would any of us know what individuals bring to the team group. As usual on here everything is negative The way I look at it you have an A on two lines and Danny on the third with Haines alternating between lines on D and special teams |
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Post by riverrat on Oct 6, 2015 20:19:52 GMT
Happens in the NHL sometimes, usually when a C moves on and numerous senior pros lead the room. Not sure why Haines wouldn't get it back. Unless he didn't want it. Dingle seems a natural leader and someone who's constantly positive .Hopefully it rubs off .Not sure what Fox brings. Doesn't appear to lead on ice but you never know. Bobby Chaumont didn't seem a leader of men either but apparently was. Unless you have access to training sessions and present in the room what would any of us know what individuals bring to the team group. As usual on here everything is negative The way I look at it you have an A on two lines and Danny on the third with Haines alternating between lines on D and special teams I think you're finding negativity in everything Bud. No negativity from me here. I've seen both approaches work and only time will tell. |
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Post by flyer31 on Oct 6, 2015 20:36:00 GMT
I worry more about our power plays.
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Post by finchy on Oct 6, 2015 22:22:02 GMT
Happens in the NHL sometimes, usually when a C moves on and numerous senior pros lead the room. Not sure why Haines wouldn't get it back. Unless he didn't want it. Dingle seems a natural leader and someone who's constantly positive .Hopefully it rubs off .Not sure what Fox brings. Doesn't appear to lead on ice but you never know. Bobby Chaumont didn't seem a leader of men either but apparently was. Unless you have access to training sessions and present in the room what would any of us know what individuals bring to the team group. As usual on here everything is negative The way I look at it you have an A on two lines and Danny on the third with Haines alternating between lines on D and special teams Just re-read the thread and it's a mix of for and against. How on earth can you say everything is negative? Just don't get why folk revert to that all the time when it's blatantly not true. If the forum was 100 percent negative or even 100 percent positive you wouldn't have any debate whatsoever. |
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Oct 7, 2015 5:54:05 GMT
Unless you have access to training sessions and present in the room what would any of us know what individuals bring to the team group. As usual on here everything is negative The way I look at it you have an A on two lines and Danny on the third with Haines alternating between lines on D and special teams Just re-read the thread and it's a mix of for and against. How on earth can you say everything is negative? Just don't get why folk revert to that all the time when it's blatantly not true. If the forum was 100 percent negative or even 100 percent positive you wouldn't have any debate whatsoever. You are negative about everything |
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Post by waterboy on Oct 7, 2015 10:42:25 GMT
The key point for me is how this has been handled internally, If Kyle approached the coaches to make a change or if they all sat down and discussed it etc. I personally find it a strange way to do things but as long as it doesn't have a negative effective on Haines or the team then fair enough.
For those saying Montreal did it last year it is slightly different they lost their Captain last summer (Gionta moving to Buffalo) so instead of replacing him the had 3 A's the Leafs did the same after Sundin moved on. Haines was our returning Captain and that does make a difference in my book, as I said as long as he isn't negatively affected then it should be fine.
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Post by jambitink on Oct 7, 2015 11:35:26 GMT
The key point for me is how this has been handled internally, If Kyle approached the coaches to make a change or if they all sat down and discussed it etc. I personally find it a strange way to do things but as long as it doesn't have a negative effective on Haines or the team then fair enough. For those saying Montreal did it last year it is slightly different they lost their Captain last summer (Gionta moving to Buffalo) so instead of replacing him the had 3 A's the Leafs did the same after Sundin moved on. Haines was our returning Captain and that does make a difference in my book, as I said as long as he isn't negatively affected then it should be fine. Was the same situation when Rangers did it. Why have the club not given an explanation on this? In any other professional team in the world if the existing captain losses his C then there would be a press release. Typical Flyers |
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