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Post by swarfiga on Jan 7, 2016 16:48:28 GMT
I don't think it should be a hard question to ask the coaching staff how they feel they have done so far and where their plans are for the future or even why the British contingent has not altered / progressed during their watch without causing them offence, leading on from there i would not see it beyond reason to ask why they feel they are the right people to take the club to the top end of the table, keep them there and not scramble for 8th spot every year. If Flyers were a football club reporters would have asked those questions many many moons ago, in the Manchester United managers case even put pressure on using their influence to get him sacked, that's what they do ...... If there ain't a story create one, anything to sell their rag. And then the natural progression is onto the directors with the same questions about the future and how they see the Flyers progressing, businessmen usually have 5 year plans- how has their plan fitted in with reality as this is now our 5th year and what do they want from the next 5 and also their opinion as to why the coaches are the right people for the job. What direction do they want the league to take and what are they doing to make sure that comes about in the best way for our club. There are stories there but they need to ask the right questions and not give easy outs Mind when we joined the league and Jack Wishart gave an interview talking about their long term plan for the club, that was what 4 and a half years ago and we haven't heard a word since, nor have we improved since our second year!
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Post by waterboy on Jan 8, 2016 9:13:59 GMT
In my mind we haven't really improved at all, we still make the same mistakes which our coaches fail to fix season after season. We haven't developed any young british players. Braehead Dundee and the Caps have all developed more players than us and still are!
The Media/PR has moved forward but is far from being good.
We seem to pat ourselves on the back because we finally run with a full import quota (which every other team just does as a matter of course) and we still wave the we use local guy's flag despite playing the same 3 possible 4 guys that we have had since we joined the EIHL. Anyone want to explain why we resigned Beanie Kyle Horne and Jamie Wilson. Why not put younger guys from KIHC in their spots and develop them for the future.
We have improved but so have most clubs, follow the Storms progress over the next 4/5 years and see how they move forward, they have already done far better than we did in our first season. We have finished 10th 7th 8th 7th and are currently sitting 7th. discounting the first season have we really improved at all.
What makes it worse for me other clubs and fans see the flyers as well nothing to worry about, this season we were being written off before a puck was dropped, we are past the halfway point and its far to say these folk haven't exactly been wrong. Yes we have played better in the past few weeks but overall this season has been awful. Or to put it another way exactly the same as last season, different issues going on but the end result has been the same.
As far as the local rag goes I never buy it or read it anymore, social media passed it by long ago.
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watcher
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
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Post by watcher on Jan 8, 2016 17:28:18 GMT
Yeh - but what about our history? No-one can beat that. Except that our recent history is starting to taint everything that has gone before.
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Post by riverrat on Jan 8, 2016 18:18:21 GMT
Yeh - but what about our history? No-one can beat that. Except that our recent history is starting to taint everything that has gone before. A bit hysterical perhaps? Alright, we haven't progressed on the ice as fans would have hoped 5 years ago and the communication with fans still leaves a lot to be desired. We are however in the top league in the country (something I'm thankful for every weekend following the wilderness years) and compete with city/arena teams on a weekly basis. We seem to remain stable financially and hopefully will continue to welcome top level UK hockey to the town for many years to come. The rink and facilities for fans and players improves slowly but annually. Can't see how this taints the 75 previous years. The garden wasn't always rosy in all of those years . I'd love to see us challenge for silverware but am also thankful for what we have.
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CraggyP
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NHL Team: Tampa Bay Lightning
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Post by CraggyP on Jan 9, 2016 7:55:37 GMT
Yeh - but what about our history? No-one can beat that. Except that our recent history is starting to taint everything that has gone before. A bit hysterical perhaps? Alright, we haven't progressed on the ice as fans would have hoped 5 years ago and the communication with fans still leaves a lot to be desired. We are however in the top league in the country (something I'm thankful for every weekend following the wilderness years) and compete with city/arena teams on a weekly basis. We seem to remain stable financially and hopefully will continue to welcome top level UK hockey to the town for many years to come. The rink and facilities for fans and players improves slowly but annually. Can't see how this taints the 75 previous years. The garden wasn't always rosy in all of those years . I'd love to see us challenge for silverware but am also thankful for what we have. Well said RR We can all moan about better this ... better that and hopefully we will do just so passionately past the 100 year marker but I am also grateful we have EIHL hockey coming to Kirkcaldy to moan about ....
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ronniemac
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Post by ronniemac on Jan 9, 2016 12:14:36 GMT
Craggy don't think that hockey would die if the current owners decided to call it a day there are people locally who would take the Flyers on if a realistic price was on offer, personally if they folded for whatever reason and you couldn't use the name i think fans would still attend hockey locally if the right product was put on an ice pad, after all if AYR/GLASGOW/BRAEHEAD managed it so could Fife. IMO the Great Saturday Night Out is still under performing, FIA should be close to or sold out constantly creating pressure for a new arena which could host a number of events in a modern environment similar too but larger than Dundee.
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Post by riverrat on Jan 9, 2016 13:19:22 GMT
Craggy don't think that hockey would die if the current owners decided to call it a day there are people locally who would take the Flyers on if a realistic price was on offer, personally if they folded for whatever reason and you couldn't use the name i think fans would still attend hockey locally if the right product was put on an ice pad, after all if AYR/GLASGOW/BRAEHEAD managed it so could Fife. IMO the Great Saturday Night Out is still under performing, FIA should be close to or sold out constantly creating pressure for a new arena which could host a number of events in a modern environment similar too but larger than Dundee. I think a multi purpose arena in Kirkcaldy is a pipe dream. We can't even find backers for a cinema/theatre .
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Post by tackleberry on Jan 29, 2016 12:38:08 GMT
Elder is clueless on hockey. Crow is. Well just a craw after what he can get for nothing. Remember when we dropped out of the bnl. He wanted nothing to do with flyers. Bummed up the rovers and slagged the flyers at every opportunity. Then fife join the elite league and he is back like a fly over poo poo. That man is a tube. His paper is a joke. They are so far up each others bahooties it's not even funny Wouldn't be surprised if Crow is going to get hauled over the coals by his bosses for his comments on page 2 of this weeks FFP, seems he has got his knickers in a bit of a twist!
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Post by waterboy on Jan 29, 2016 13:37:41 GMT
Elder is clueless on hockey. Crow is. Well just a craw after what he can get for nothing. Remember when we dropped out of the bnl. He wanted nothing to do with flyers. Bummed up the rovers and slagged the flyers at every opportunity. Then fife join the elite league and he is back like a fly over poo poo. That man is a tube. His paper is a joke. They are so far up each others bahooties it's not even funny Wouldn't be surprised if Crow is going to get hauled over the coals by his bosses for his comments on page 2 of this weeks FFP, seems he has got his knickers in a bit of a twist! What has he said that relates to the flyers?
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Post by tackleberry on Jan 29, 2016 14:21:44 GMT
Sorry, I should have mentioned his piece wasn't relating to the Flyers, but as this thread is titled FFP and I was quoting drwho and what he thought of the editor, I thought it was appropriate.
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flyers4eva
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Post by flyers4eva on Jan 29, 2016 22:09:30 GMT
Elder is clueless on hockey. Crow is. Well just a craw after what he can get for nothing. Remember when we dropped out of the bnl. He wanted nothing to do with flyers. Bummed up the rovers and slagged the flyers at every opportunity. Then fife join the elite league and he is back like a fly over poo poo. That man is a tube. His paper is a joke. They are so far up each others bahooties it's not even funny Wouldn't be surprised if Crow is going to get hauled over the coals by his bosses for his comments on page 2 of this weeks FFP, seems he has got his knickers in a bit of a twist! What was said? Refuse to buy that poor excuse of a paper
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