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Post by colinmcalpine on Feb 10, 2016 20:43:55 GMT
just think in 2years time we wont need to worry about brits in the team when the league goes 15 imports then you can all rave about how great it is to see a load of tourists play for the team you all love
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Post by coloradoflyer on Feb 10, 2016 22:54:44 GMT
I don't a load of tourists playing for the flyers, I grew up watching lotto, Deano, haigy and the rest play alongside some amazing imports we don't need 12-15 import hockey
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Post by joestoyanovich on Feb 10, 2016 23:00:38 GMT
I'd like to get, and keep, the guy who picks Manchester's forwards.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Feb 11, 2016 18:51:44 GMT
just think in 2years time we wont need to worry about brits in the team when the league goes 15 imports then you can all rave about how great it is to see a load of tourists play for the team you all love It's the nature of sport, no top team in any league or any sport has a team of local born players, I pay good money to watch the best players I possibly can, and being honest I don't care where they were born as long as they are entertaining and good enough to beat rival teams. I've watched a team of local players in the dreadful snl era of the flyers, and it was abysmal,
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Post by colinmcalpine on Feb 11, 2016 22:16:11 GMT
well why all the outcry about bringing in new brits
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Post by tackleberry on Feb 11, 2016 22:35:47 GMT
just think in 2years time we wont need to worry about brits in the team when the league goes 15 imports then you can all rave about how great it is to see a load of tourists play for the team you all love It's the nature of sport, no top team in any league or any sport has a team of local born players, I pay good money to watch the best players I possibly can, and being honest I don't care where they were born as long as they are entertaining and good enough to beat rival teams. I've watched a team of local players in the dreadful snl era of the flyers, and it was abysmal, I take it you are too young to remember the Heineken days? 3 imports, local players, great crowds, great rivalries. Personally I would like to see the number of imports reduced in the Elite league, not gonna happen tho.
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Post by riverrat on Feb 11, 2016 22:55:24 GMT
It's the nature of sport, no top team in any league or any sport has a team of local born players, I pay good money to watch the best players I possibly can, and being honest I don't care where they were born as long as they are entertaining and good enough to beat rival teams. I've watched a team of local players in the dreadful snl era of the flyers, and it was abysmal, I take it you are too young to remember the Heineken days? 3 imports, local players, great crowds, great rivalries. Personally I would like to see the number of imports reduced in the Elite league, not gonna happen tho. The Heineken days had all of those things and more. That however seems to blind people to the fact that the standard of hockey was sh**. I'd like to see a system that brings through local talent but balanced with a decent standard of hockey.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Feb 11, 2016 23:07:25 GMT
It's the nature of sport, no top team in any league or any sport has a team of local born players, I pay good money to watch the best players I possibly can, and being honest I don't care where they were born as long as they are entertaining and good enough to beat rival teams. I've watched a team of local players in the dreadful snl era of the flyers, and it was abysmal, I take it you are too young to remember the Heineken days? 3 imports, local players, great crowds, great rivalries. Personally I would like to see the number of imports reduced in the Elite league, not gonna happen tho. Nope I remember them well, first game against Southampton Vikings in 1985 where Fife won I'm sure it was 16-1, they days were great but we will never go back to such a low standard, the crowds were big, but tickets were cheap, I don't think that atmosphere will ever be beaten but fans now will not accept such a poor standard now, half the fun back then was the hockey was wild with fights and dirty plays all over the ice, this has now been referreed out the game, with the crowds now getting the excitement from fast skilled hockey, something you can't get without imports
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Post by finchy on Feb 11, 2016 23:07:33 GMT
I take it you are too young to remember the Heineken days? 3 imports, local players, great crowds, great rivalries. Personally I would like to see the number of imports reduced in the Elite league, not gonna happen tho. The Heineken days had all of those things and more. That however seems to blind people to the fact that the standard of hockey was sh**. I'd like to see a system that brings through local talent but balanced with a decent standard of hockey. The BNL 50/50 split was perfect. Plenty local guys able to play and also benefitting from getting to play and train with decent imports. Standard of hockey was good too. Realistically 4 line hockey in the EIHL is the only way we'll still be able to bring players through from next year onwards. There was a lot of bold talk from good old Neil Black about that happening this year at his clubs -but guess what...?
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Post by ronniemac on Feb 12, 2016 12:54:34 GMT
I think most fans would agree that a BNL formula would be good enough hockey to watch on a Saturday night out at KIA, I would seetle for Tony Hand to be assistant coach at Flyers and on the roster for power plays and an odd shift possibly with Paul Adey as coach to complete the hierarchy. The 15 import bubble will burst, time has showed us that in the past, it's actually ironic that a man Flyers brought into the country was the catalyst for that scenario........Tim Cranston. British players need to up their ante now to prepare for their return to the main body of the team and then they will be the people to command a wage just like Tony did back in the day.
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Post by flyers2014 on Feb 12, 2016 15:13:22 GMT
Think the EIHL set up is fine the way it is. The local lads or rather younger generations coming through should be upping their fitness, nutrition and healthy lifestyle to prepare themselves for the EIHL standard and if they are good enough they will get a game. I wouldn't say the likes of some of the imports we have at present are particuarly outstanding (excluding Dingle). Some of the BNL players of the past, such as Haig, Smith, Latto etc would easily fit into some of the top lines. The current crop minus Muir and Gunn aren't good enough, so I don't understand why there is calls to play the likes of Scoon and Co. I am personally looking forward to 15 imports coming through. This might actually incentivise local players to up their game, rather than the average Joe rocking up in a pair of skates and getting on the ice at some point. If you look at Raith Rovers, they would never field a player of Scoons inabilities nor would they include a player like this in their squad.. Other EIHL teams wouldn't accept this either.
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Post by finchy on Feb 12, 2016 16:54:23 GMT
Think the EIHL set up is fine the way it is. The local lads or rather younger generations coming through should be upping their fitness, nutrition and healthy lifestyle to prepare themselves for the EIHL standard and if they are good enough they will get a game. I wouldn't say the likes of some of the imports we have at present are particuarly outstanding (excluding Dingle). Some of the BNL players of the past, such as Haig, Smith, Latto etc would easily fit into some of the top lines. The current crop minus Muir and Gunn aren't good enough, so I don't understand why there is calls to play the likes of Scoon and Co. I am personally looking forward to 15 imports coming through. This might actually incentivise local players to up their game, rather than the average Joe rocking up in a pair of skates and getting on the ice at some point. If you look at Raith Rovers, they would never field a player of Scoons inabilities nor would they include a player like this in their squad.. Other EIHL teams wouldn't accept this either. How do young guys get the chance to come through now? They're competing with highly trained imports coming in at 25/26. It's easy saying they need to 'up their game' but how does a 16/17 year old compete for ice time against guys that have played at a much higher level for longer? Surely you must see the disadvantage they have? Would the King's, Millie etc. even have got the chance to develop in the current set-up? It's ok saying they were good enough but they only BECAME good enough once they were given the platform to hone their skills
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Post by swarfiga on Feb 12, 2016 18:42:22 GMT
Let's remember here Flyers could have started some sort of programme 5 years ago to bring the promising 15/16 year olds on, maybe even younger so that they'd be ready now, noones got a gun to their head to play 15 imports, we've got the same lot we had when we joined the league, that's surely the clubs fault aswell, it realistically was to late for the current batch to improve drastically as they were all early to mid twenties except scoon I believe.
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