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Post by waterboy on Jun 15, 2016 16:55:56 GMT
I find it amazing/worrying that Todd has been coaching in the Elite league for 5 years now and still it appears he doesn't have the contacts to assemble a squad. Over the years there has been a lot of good players playing for Hull, Dundee, Edinburgh and Manchester, yet we never seem to sign any of these guys, surely this is a market that we should be exploiting? That's not fair, we have had some cracking players in our five years. If that was down to Todd or Danny or a combination who knows but we have had some terrific players.
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Post by tackleberry on Jun 15, 2016 17:29:32 GMT
I find it amazing/worrying that Todd has been coaching in the Elite league for 5 years now and still it appears he doesn't have the contacts to assemble a squad. Over the years there has been a lot of good players playing for Hull, Dundee, Edinburgh and Manchester, yet we never seem to sign any of these guys, surely this is a market that we should be exploiting? That's not fair, we have had some cracking players in our five years. If that was down to Todd or Danny or a combination who knows but we have had some terrific players. I think you have misunderstood me, nowhere in my post have I said we haven't had good players over these 5 seasons. I am merely stating an opinion that I don't think Todd has the contacts and that he has failed on a large scale to sign tried and tested elite league players from clubs with less appeal than the Flyers.... Sacchetti ex Dundee turned out to be no too bad eh?
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Post by waterboy on Jun 15, 2016 18:56:50 GMT
That's not fair, we have had some cracking players in our five years. If that was down to Todd or Danny or a combination who knows but we have had some terrific players. I think you have misunderstood me, nowhere in my post have I said we haven't had good players over these 5 seasons. I am merely stating an opinion that I don't think Todd has the contacts and that he has failed on a large scale to sign tried and tested elite league players from clubs with less appeal than the Flyers.... Sacchetti ex Dundee turned out to be no too bad eh? fair enough mate I have misunderstood you. That said I still don't think It's fair to say Todd or Danny don't have contacts because they haven't signed guys from other EIHL teams. Guys who succeed in this league will generally ask for a higher wage the following season. Flyers have had success bringing in new guys to the league and at a lower cost. Jordan Fulton was a good example who cost more his second season. Todds ability to build a squad has failed IMO due to our British quality and a lack of depth in that same area. Is that him or the owners ?? I guess it's the owners as we here of their refusal to pay full time Brits.
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Post by swarfiga on Jun 15, 2016 19:09:51 GMT
I think you have misunderstood me, nowhere in my post have I said we haven't had good players over these 5 seasons. I am merely stating an opinion that I don't think Todd has the contacts and that he has failed on a large scale to sign tried and tested elite league players from clubs with less appeal than the Flyers.... Sacchetti ex Dundee turned out to be no too bad eh? fair enough mate I have misunderstood you. That said I still don't think It's fair to say Todd or Danny don't have contacts because they haven't signed guys from other EIHL teams. Guys who succeed in this league will generally ask for a higher wage the following season. Flyers have had success bringing in new guys to the league and at a lower cost. Jordan Fulton was a good example who cost more his second season. Todds ability to build a squad has failed IMO due to our British quality and a lack of depth in that same area. Is that him or the owners ?? I guess it's the owners as we here of their refusal to pay full time Brits. I think this year is the first year we are going to be able to judge him alone on his ability to recruit a team and gel it. Apart from season 1 he has had help, how much we don't know. Did the Todd and Danny thoughts on recruitment clash? We don't know. We will find out this year whether he will flourish or collapse... I suspect the latter.
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Post by bencameron on Jun 15, 2016 19:42:08 GMT
The people that are in the so called inner circle.... that post about player rumours and stuff. Cant these guys ask why there is a lack in signing news? Is it because we dont have the players signed? Have we missed out on players to other clubs, like caps, storm? Or is it just our pants PR?
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Post by flyersforlife01 on Jun 15, 2016 19:56:06 GMT
The people that are in the so called inner circle.... that post about player rumours and stuff. Cant these guys ask why there is a lack in signing news? Is it because we dont have the players signed? Have we missed out on players to other clubs, like caps, storm? Or is it just our pants PR? People like to pretend that they are in the inner circle. There is more than likely players signed but it's the Fife way to hold the info back.
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Post by bencameron on Jun 15, 2016 20:40:48 GMT
The people that are in the so called inner circle.... that post about player rumours and stuff. Cant these guys ask why there is a lack in signing news? Is it because we dont have the players signed? Have we missed out on players to other clubs, like caps, storm? Or is it just our pants PR? People like to pretend that they are in the inner circle. There is more than likely players signed but it's the Fife way to hold the info back. I really hope we do have players signed!. It will show we dont belong in this league if we dont.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Jun 15, 2016 21:02:03 GMT
The people that are in the so called inner circle.... that post about player rumours and stuff. Cant these guys ask why there is a lack in signing news? Is it because we dont have the players signed? Have we missed out on players to other clubs, like caps, storm? Or is it just our pants PR? People like to pretend that they are in the inner circle. There is more than likely players signed but it's the Fife way to hold the info back. The inner circle is more a square consisting of 4 people, and only they know who is signed, everyone else is just pretending. There are folk signed but only 4 people in the club know who.
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Post by swarfiga on Jun 15, 2016 21:59:06 GMT
People like to pretend that they are in the inner circle. There is more than likely players signed but it's the Fife way to hold the info back. The inner circle is more a square consisting of 4 people, and only they know who is signed, everyone else is just pretending. There are folk signed but only 4 people in the club know who. So how do you know there are definitely guys signed?
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Jun 15, 2016 22:30:57 GMT
Because like others I know people who know some things, but I don't know who and nobody does apart from Tommy, Jack and there 2 most trusted employees. What I do know is that a lot of people on here are doing the directors a big dis service as they really are trying to improve the club. However I can see why a lot of people think this way as there PR really stinks.
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Post by swarfiga on Jun 15, 2016 22:47:25 GMT
I'm sure they are but let's get it right it's the directors and Dutaiume that do the fans that pay for the team a disservice by giving amateur PR at best, no off season information, we have heard from Wishart once and that was 5 years ago! It's not the fans on here or whatever other online media that's at fault here, it's the club.
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Post by bobdee on Jun 16, 2016 8:55:37 GMT
I'm sure they are but let's get it right it's the directors and Dutaiume that do the fans that pay for the team a disservice by giving amateur PR at best, no off season information, we have heard from Wishart once and that was 5 years ago! It's not the fans on here or whatever other online media that's at fault here, it's the club. I find it delusional that people think there have been signings made and the supporters haven't been told about them. That makes the PR, and the club, show that the supporters, the people who pay their money at the gate, as complete nobodies. Get a grip management and PR.
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Post by swarfiga on Jun 16, 2016 9:52:03 GMT
And now the press saying they've struggled to get hold of Dutaiume for an interview recently... Tremendous.
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Post by perthfifeflyer on Jun 16, 2016 9:57:07 GMT
I thought last preseason couldn't have got much worse in terms of PR and professionalism of Social Media. Somehow they've managed to out do themselves once again.
Todd is out his depth without Danny. I'm almost certain of it.
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Post by bobdee on Jun 16, 2016 10:42:11 GMT
I thought last preseason couldn't have got much worse in terms of PR and professionalism of Social Media. Somehow they've managed to out do themselves once again. Todd is out his depth without Danny. I'm almost certain of it. Completely agree about Todd. I didn't want him back anyway but on his own this is becoming ridiculous. Maybe we are at the stage of withdrawing from the league before they start drawing up the fixtures. We could sign up the Kestrels en-masse just to put jerseys on the ice. It is almost getting to that stage.
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