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Post by joestoyanovich on Aug 2, 2016 10:18:11 GMT
Can I just say, much against the grain of this thread, welcome to Fife Chase. I hope that you wear the jersey with pride and play with a passion that matches my own feelings for the club.
We know what we are getting with the returnees but literally have no idea how the new signings will turn out, paper facts can mean very little out there on the ice. I think that we should give all the new guys the benefit of the doubt until we have seen them play, we will know soon enough.
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Post by dan27 on Aug 2, 2016 10:52:27 GMT
I agree with Joe, if there hadn't been such a random PR job already this season then this signing would have been received well and I for one am looking forward to what he can do.
I had a look to see if I could see what kind of injury kept him out last season but I couldn't find anything to explain why he only played 2 games. Anyway, I see this as an upgrade on Dorr and Cullen so I'm happy.
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flyersforlife01
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Post by flyersforlife01 on Aug 2, 2016 11:10:40 GMT
Similar stats to Casey Haines and we all know how good a player he was.
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flyers4eva
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Post by flyers4eva on Aug 2, 2016 11:11:02 GMT
You not have a head up about this 1? Nash think the wells ran dry How come?
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Post by johndabomb on Aug 2, 2016 12:48:25 GMT
I like the look of this guy, as long as his injury worries are behind him I think he'll be a great signing.
Four imports left I'm hoping for a good nettie, Matt Delahey, a big tough dman who can go toe to toe with anyone in the league in the mould of Cescon and a big power forward who can scrap as well in the Salters/Pitton mould.
If we got that I'd be happy, do I think we will...not so sure.
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Post by waterboy on Aug 2, 2016 12:50:34 GMT
WHL captain with good stats isn't something to write off folks, I've said the same thing for a good few of the caps uni signings.
He had a bad injury that ended his junior career early, skate cut through tendons/hamstring (which feels sore just saying it)
A good first season in Bakersfield which led to an AHL PTO which lasted 13 games before his contract was cancelled and he was picked up by Bakersfield again and given an "A" that's not a bad CV so far, players with less have came here and been good players.
Last year he gets hurt early November doesn't skate again until January but ends up done for the season. No idea what this leg injury was but it had to be bad for the team to not take any chances and shut him down for the season.
He is only 25 and has obviously been good enough to play in the AHL (even if it was on a PTO) That's not a bad player. Concern over his injury from last season would be my only issue, we saw how long it took Dorr to get into his stride last season if he ever really did.
Fighter he is not! Yes he has youtube videos up but he has only fought 3 times as a pro, that's in 141 games. fighting against 17/18/19 year old guys isn't the same as facing grown men who have been doing it for years. Even then his junior card is only 17 fights in 250 games, one fight every 15 games.
That for me isn't a guy who will fight much in this league. Might be wrong but I would be surprised if he was expected to carry any real physical presence for us.
Issue I think most seem to have is that we haven't blown the doors off with any signing sisca brooks and dingle are good the rest have gotten a mixed reaction which has gotten fans frustrated in the same way the PR or lack of has gotten under folks skin. Clan podcast guys summed it up pretty well, Brooks is a very good signing but he shouldn't be the marquee signing. Got to admit I couldn't agree more with that statement.
Take a step back and look at this as a single signing and it looks a good one with a slight gamble attached (which will probably mean reduced cost). My only issue is the general quality in the squad appears to be lower than other teams but again until we see these guys on the ice that's not really known.
We have 2 defencemen one forward and our goalie (step forward Shane Owen) to sign assuming we do go with 5 import defencemen. Would expect that to change as names going around the most are John Kurtz Dustin Cameron and Ric Jackman.
Throw in Matt Davies and Gunny Tommy Sam Mccluskey that gives you have a 4 balanced forward lines and 6 good skating defencemen (of varying ability I admit). That's a good line up with fast skilled players and at least a few guys who can fight in the line up.
Flip side to that don't add Kurtz Davies or McCluskey - use or usual Brits and no recognised tough guy it will be a very long season!!
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Post by waterboy on Aug 2, 2016 12:57:11 GMT
On another point - Flyers PR Should be banned from putting the word Grittiness into any future PR unless the guy they are talking about has at least 50 pro fights even then it should only say toughness.
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Post by jambitink on Aug 2, 2016 13:42:27 GMT
WHL captain with good stats isn't something to write off folks, I've said the same thing for a good few of the caps uni signings.
He had a bad injury that ended his junior career early, skate cut through tendons/hamstring (which feels sore just saying it)
A good first season in Bakersfield which led to an AHL PTO which lasted 13 games before his contract was cancelled and he was picked up by Bakersfield again and given an "A" that's not a bad CV so far, players with less have came here and been good players.
Last year he gets hurt early November doesn't skate again until January but ends up done for the season. No idea what this leg injury was but it had to be bad for the team to not take any chances and shut him down for the season.
He is only 25 and has obviously been good enough to play in the AHL (even if it was on a PTO) That's not a bad player. Concern over his injury from last season would be my only issue, we saw how long it took Dorr to get into his stride last season if he ever really did.
Fighter he is not! Yes he has youtube videos up but he has only fought 3 times as a pro, that's in 141 games. fighting against 17/18/19 year old guys isn't the same as facing grown men who have been doing it for years. Even then his junior card is only 17 fights in 250 games, one fight every 15 games.
That for me isn't a guy who will fight much in this league. Might be wrong but I would be surprised if he was expected to carry any real physical presence for us.
Issue I think most seem to have is that we haven't blown the doors off with any signing sisca brooks and dingle are good the rest have gotten a mixed reaction which has gotten fans frustrated in the same way the PR or lack of has gotten under folks skin. Clan podcast guys summed it up pretty well, Brooks is a very good signing but he shouldn't be the marquee signing. Got to admit I couldn't agree more with that statement.
Take a step back and look at this as a single signing and it looks a good one with a slight gamble attached (which will probably mean reduced cost). My only issue is the general quality in the squad appears to be lower than other teams but again until we see these guys on the ice that's not really known.
We have 2 defencemen one forward and our goalie (step forward Shane Owen) to sign assuming we do go with 5 import defencemen. Would expect that to change as names going around the most are John Kurtz Dustin Cameron and Ric Jackman.
Throw in Matt Davies and Gunny Tommy Sam Mccluskey that gives you have a 4 balanced forward lines and 6 good skating defencemen (of varying ability I admit). That's a good line up with fast skilled players and at least a few guys who can fight in the line up.
Flip side to that don't add Kurtz Davies or McCluskey - use or usual Brits and no recognised tough guy it will be a very long season!!
I wouldn't say people are necessarily writing him off. If his injury is cleared up he looks like a good pick up. I think the frustration is more the lack of size in the squad. He is probably more of an agitator than a guy that is going to stick up for team mates. I cant see him wanting to go with any of the leagues tough guys on a regular basis.
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Post by waterboy on Aug 2, 2016 14:31:17 GMT
The average size of the team is 6ft We also have the 3rd heaviest line up in the league with 10 players signed. 2 of the smallest guys Sisca and Brooks are proven in the league with Brooks more than capable of handling himself on the ice.
Our tallest player is one of our worst from last year, I do think we need a few bodies capable of handling the tougher guys in the league but overall faster more skilful guys win you games. Its all about having that balance or mix of styles something we don't have as yet.
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Post by Dirkster23 on Aug 2, 2016 17:03:11 GMT
WHL captain with good stats isn't something to write off folks, I've said the same thing for a good few of the caps uni signings.
He had a bad injury that ended his junior career early, skate cut through tendons/hamstring (which feels sore just saying it)
A good first season in Bakersfield which led to an AHL PTO which lasted 13 games before his contract was cancelled and he was picked up by Bakersfield again and given an "A" that's not a bad CV so far, players with less have came here and been good players.
Last year he gets hurt early November doesn't skate again until January but ends up done for the season. No idea what this leg injury was but it had to be bad for the team to not take any chances and shut him down for the season.
He is only 25 and has obviously been good enough to play in the AHL (even if it was on a PTO) That's not a bad player. Concern over his injury from last season would be my only issue, we saw how long it took Dorr to get into his stride last season if he ever really did.
Fighter he is not! Yes he has youtube videos up but he has only fought 3 times as a pro, that's in 141 games. fighting against 17/18/19 year old guys isn't the same as facing grown men who have been doing it for years. Even then his junior card is only 17 fights in 250 games, one fight every 15 games.
That for me isn't a guy who will fight much in this league. Might be wrong but I would be surprised if he was expected to carry any real physical presence for us.
Issue I think most seem to have is that we haven't blown the doors off with any signing sisca brooks and dingle are good the rest have gotten a mixed reaction which has gotten fans frustrated in the same way the PR or lack of has gotten under folks skin. Clan podcast guys summed it up pretty well, Brooks is a very good signing but he shouldn't be the marquee signing. Got to admit I couldn't agree more with that statement.
Take a step back and look at this as a single signing and it looks a good one with a slight gamble attached (which will probably mean reduced cost). My only issue is the general quality in the squad appears to be lower than other teams but again until we see these guys on the ice that's not really known.
We have 2 defencemen one forward and our goalie (step forward Shane Owen) to sign assuming we do go with 5 import defencemen. Would expect that to change as names going around the most are John Kurtz Dustin Cameron and Ric Jackman.
Throw in Matt Davies and Gunny Tommy Sam Mccluskey that gives you have a 4 balanced forward lines and 6 good skating defencemen (of varying ability I admit). That's a good line up with fast skilled players and at least a few guys who can fight in the line up.
Flip side to that don't add Kurtz Davies or McCluskey - use or usual Brits and no recognised tough guy it will be a very long season!!
We've signed 8 import forwards if you include Follmer who'll play up front when needed- only Brooks is a right hand shot. I can't see us adding either Kurtz or Cameron as both are lefties.
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Post by waterboy on Aug 2, 2016 17:13:28 GMT
Stockton Brooks and Gunny are all RH shots, don't see that as an issue at all. If they are the right players they are the right players. Brooksy shots right play RW - old school thinking he should be a left winger but he isn't. If we did have Kurtz and Cameron signed up us being heavy loaded with left handed shooters wouldn't concern me at all.
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Post by swarfiga on Aug 2, 2016 17:22:52 GMT
It matters more in D that up front
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Post by Dirkster23 on Aug 2, 2016 18:37:17 GMT
Stockton Brooks and Gunny are all RH shots, don't see that as an issue at all. If they are the right players they are the right players. Brooksy shots right play RW - old school thinking he should be a left winger but he isn't. If we did have Kurtz and Cameron signed up us being heavy loaded with left handed shooters wouldn't concern me at all. My mistake on Stockton- maybe just me, but I'd rather have a better balance of right/left shots on the forward lines. Looking at the rosters in the league so far, most have a better balance. If you want it another way, Brooks is our only recognised right wing import, neither Kurtz or Cameron appear to have played right wing for any length of time, if ever.
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Post by zamboni on Aug 2, 2016 20:41:35 GMT
Looking forward to seeing Chase at FIA
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Post by zamboni on Aug 2, 2016 20:55:58 GMT
Brooks and Schaber in this one
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