ronniemac
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NHL Team: Chicago Blackhawks
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Post by ronniemac on Aug 23, 2016 11:44:56 GMT
Dundee directors couldn't wait to get rid of Hutchy {not hearsay it was straight from the horses mouth). Another wee titbit from an IMPORT directly is that it's just jobs for the boys in this country and this years signings definitely back that up when you go through their history they all have links to somebody that is here now or was here recently or at worst played in the EIHL recently. If the league keeps going in the same direction as present there will be NO places for the Brits unless they are the next Tony Hand which is a ridiculous situation to be in.
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Post by waterboy on Aug 23, 2016 12:04:35 GMT
Not sure I really agree with your last bit Ronnie, 32% of players signed for the coming season are British. that's 65 players across the 10 teams. Without going into a huge debate on import numbers that isn't that bad. I thought it was a hell of a lot lower TBH. Most teams have a few younger players coming in which is key for the future obviously.
We are quite possibly the team with the worst record in the EIHL for bringing juniors through which is remarkably when we have one of the best junior set ups in the country. Belfast have a few young guys coming through and a few heading over to the US to further their development. I would say its perhaps not as bad as you suggest.
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Post by zamboni on Aug 23, 2016 12:10:06 GMT
This is a positive move by The ownership a good investment Looking to the future , forward planning and harnessing the local talent to augment the team in future years as our current Brits are at wrong end of playing careers. Fife/ Kirkcaldy Ice Hockey Club junior ranks are showing promise at all levels its harnessing this in to make the next step to EIHL We should all be congratulating the Ownership for this move that's why we have been around since 1938, small sustainable bites , no hunger and burst Fire engine management.
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Post by zamboni on Aug 23, 2016 12:20:18 GMT
Not sure I really agree with your last bit Ronnie, 32% of players signed for the coming season are British. that's 65 players across the 10 teams. Without going into a huge debate on import numbers that isn't that bad. I thought it was a hell of a lot lower TBH. Most teams have a few younger players coming in which is key for the future obviously. We are quite possibly the team with the worst record in the EIHL for bringing juniors through which is remarkably when we have one of the best junior set ups in the country. Belfast have a few young guys coming through and a few heading over to the US to further their development. I would say its perhaps not as bad as you suggest. Our 5/6 years in the wilderness of the NIHL didn't help matters this is where we went backwards in terms of long term aspirations of our young talent. However the alternative ISL wasn't a sustainable model for our Ownership and they have been proved correct for doing so Ayr Eagles prime example
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Post by boschman76 on Aug 23, 2016 12:42:16 GMT
Just my opinion but id give our present coach the first month of the season and if things aren't working out id punt him upstairs and put hutchy in charge at least he knows the type of players you need to succeed in this league
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Post by zebadee67 on Aug 23, 2016 13:10:35 GMT
Just my opinion but id give our present coach the first month of the season and if things aren't working out id punt him upstairs and put hutchy in charge at least he knows the type of players you need to succeed in this league Totally agree, he knows how to build a good team and what is required.
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Post by jambitink on Aug 23, 2016 13:16:07 GMT
Just my opinion but id give our present coach the first month of the season and if things aren't working out id punt him upstairs and put hutchy in charge at least he knows the type of players you need to succeed in this league Totally agree, he knows how to build a good team and what is required. A month is too long. He's had 5 years
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Post by boschman76 on Aug 23, 2016 13:34:25 GMT
Ye I know what you mean with that bit he has five years and nothing has really changed in that time apart from a couple off players every forward on d man have all been around the same size ie in height and weight that type off player was ok twenty years ago but it just doesn't it in the eihl .iv been watching fife for the last 30yrs and the biggest problem I have is there is a so called fife style of play skill based nothing wrong with that but we play to nice we wont do whatever it takes to win the big games can remember the great murrayfield teams back then they had guys who would do whatever it took to win the game the league the cup they had guys with that winning mentality.whereas we are ok if a team wants to play hockey we could beat them but as soon as it became or becomes physical we didn't or don't want to know and that is,down to the coach and how he perceives the game should be played there are ten teams in this league and for the last 5yrs 9 coaches have built teams to do well in this eihl era apart from one who takes a totally different view now surely 9 coaches cant be wrong
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Post by bobdee on Aug 23, 2016 15:06:25 GMT
Just my opinion but id give our present coach the first month of the season and if things aren't working out id punt him upstairs and put hutchy in charge at least he knows the type of players you need to succeed in this league Don't want Todd as coach but fair is fair he might need more than a month to show he is taking anything on board from the assistant coach. I wouldn't want to wait too long though.
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Post by waterboy on Aug 23, 2016 15:21:23 GMT
Just my opinion but id give our present coach the first month of the season and if things aren't working out id punt him upstairs and put hutchy in charge at least he knows the type of players you need to succeed in this league Don't want Todd as coach but fair is fair he might need more than a month to show he is taking anything on board from the assistant coach. I wouldn't want to wait too long though. He had 4 and a bit seasons with Danny and our style of play didn't change. Will be interesting to see how the Blaze play this year under Danny, he certainly has a few guys in their line up who can go with the tough guys around the league.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Aug 23, 2016 15:31:45 GMT
I like the sentiment of the position, but is Hutchins the right man , Not in my opinion, always a cheap player who did not play the game the right way, just don't like him, and never will.
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Post by sparkymark75 on Aug 23, 2016 17:09:58 GMT
Great that the club have finally got someone in for junior development, however, this should have been one of the first things they did when they joined the league.
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Post by boschman76 on Aug 23, 2016 18:29:41 GMT
Sorry but that is part of flyers problem someone says hutchy doesn't play the right way but his teams compete every night and they win the conference which is more than we have done .flyers sides have always been to marquis of Queensbury wont go that extra step and do what it takes to win .the video clip of chinn battering Russell monteith and no one seeking retribution just sums up how soft a side we are if that was any other team in the league having one of there best players being hammered I'm sure chinn would have had to answer for it .at the end off the day I want a team that is going to compete for 60 minutes both physically and skilfully and if that means we have to push the rules then so be it as long as we win
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Post by toomanymen on Aug 24, 2016 12:20:55 GMT
One of the comments on The Hockey Forum "director of player development are they having a laugh this is the coach that would rather play short benched than use the young british players we had at Dundee."
Hopefully he's changed his ways of thinking if true.
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