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Post by millar on Sept 7, 2016 6:46:58 GMT
My question is when the official supporters club was shut down for the new travel club to open... The £4000 that was in the pot was taken by fife flyers themselves. Under what right do they have taking that money? None. The £4000 should have been given back to the supporters evenly. This was pure profit meaning the supporters club were making money out of the fans by over charging on bus seat prices etc. The fans should have been given their share of the money back due to how the supporters club was closed down.
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drwho
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Post by drwho on Sept 7, 2016 9:43:02 GMT
My question is when the official supporters club was shut down for the new travel club to open... The £4000 that was in the pot was taken by fife flyers themselves. Under what right do they have taking that money? None. The £4000 should have been given back to the supporters evenly. This was pure profit meaning the supporters club were making money out of the fans by over charging on bus seat prices etc. The fans should have been given their share of the money back due to how the supporters club was closed down. The whole point of the supporters club was to raise funds for the team. Every bit of profit was handed to the Fife flyers every year. Always was like that as I said that was the point if it. The club never "took it over and shut it down" the club always was a part of it
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Post by coloradoflyer on Sept 7, 2016 10:13:04 GMT
the worst thing about this now being made public is that both parties have said there piece and now there will slanging matches and that will distract fans from the real reason we go to the rink every week to watch and support our boys on ice
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Post by thebear on Sept 7, 2016 11:20:30 GMT
Agreed Colorado, I think the whole thing has been blown out of preportion and been handled poorly
I would dread to think that Flyers fans have tried to get money for personal gain through kidding on they are the official club (but then again we live in that world) I do find it a bit strange that the Flyers wont work with the unofficial club without stating a reason, and on a side note would it maybe benefit the unofficial group to change their name to something like "Flyers Booster Club" or something along the lines If their sole intention is to fund the club & charities? This would be a totally different name, maybe directors dont want another "supporters group" conflicting witht their own?
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Post by sparkymark75 on Sept 7, 2016 12:54:34 GMT
It's similar to these other cases you see with potential brand confusion. Sky TV forced Microsoft to change the name of their cloud storage offering which was called SkyDrive. Microsoft changed it to OneDrive. Even thoug hthey operate in different markets.
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gmac
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Post by gmac on Sept 7, 2016 14:55:57 GMT
There are no winners in a public spat with any supporters club, unofficial or not.
The sad thing is that the aims and goals stated by both parties are very similar and both claim to have the best interest of the hockey club and charities at heart.
A decision has been made by the hockey club management and that won't be changed by any unofficial outside pressure.
With regards to use of official trademarks or intellectual property rights, a simple cease and desist notice will end any dispute sharpish.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Sept 7, 2016 15:15:53 GMT
There are no winners in a public spat with any supporters club, unofficial or not. The sad thing is that the aims and goals stated by both parties are very similar and both claim to have the best interest of the hockey club and charities at heart. A decision has been made by the hockey club management and that won't be changed by any unofficial outside pressure. With regards to use of official trademarks or intellectual property rights, a simple cease and desist notice will end any dispute sharpish. The trouble is and always has been lack of leadership at the top of the tree in Fife Flyers, Tam Muir has allowed his employees and volunteers to build little empires that has made them think they are important to the club and in some cases benefited in a lot of other ways. These issues on both sides should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago.
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Post by ammoniars on Sept 7, 2016 21:37:13 GMT
Someone needs to bring back the 3D's bus. Traveled to away games with them for years was brilliant, a few guys would book a bus split cost with number of people on bus. An outrageous amount of alcohol consumed was great. Was a shame when it stopped running. I tried to go on supporters buses a few times after but could not stand the cliques, they actually thought they run the flyers and had no sense of humour .... Well not the type I like , think because most knew I used to travel with 3D s they looked down there noses at us, don't think they liked us enjoying ourselves to be honest.
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Post by domi28 on Sept 7, 2016 21:46:41 GMT
Someone needs to bring back the 3D's bus. Traveled to away games with them for years was brilliant, a few guys would book a bus split cost with number of people on bus. An outrageous amount of alcohol consumed was great. Was a shame when it stopped running. I tried to go on supporters buses a few times after but could not stand the cliques, they actually thought they run the flyers and had no sense of humour .... Well not the type I like , think because most knew I used to travel with 3D s they looked down there noses at us, don't think they liked us enjoying ourselves to be honest. Those were the days. A lot of great trips, Cardiff/Solihull was always excellent. Even the trips when we were in division one were good.....what i remember!!
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Post by Fifer on Sept 11, 2016 11:30:39 GMT
Someone needs to bring back the 3D's bus. Traveled to away games with them for years was brilliant, a few guys would book a bus split cost with number of people on bus. An outrageous amount of alcohol consumed was great. Was a shame when it stopped running. I tried to go on supporters buses a few times after but could not stand the cliques, they actually thought they run the flyers and had no sense of humour .... Well not the type I like , think because most knew I used to travel with 3D s they looked down there noses at us, don't think they liked us enjoying ourselves to be honest. That's what the ffsc(u) were trying to do. We went to Manchester with them last season. We had a much nicer bus than the travel club & from memory we paid £25 while travel club members paid £40 for the same trip. Much less cliquey too.
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Post by SectionE on Sept 11, 2016 19:24:53 GMT
That's the reason that nothing changes at the club, too many cliques and 'chosen few' who do everything for the club, including managing the Official Facebook and Twitter accounts, which is ludicrous.
If there is any unscrupulous individuals using the clubs name to defraud local businesses to their own means, then of course action has to be taken.
I just can't help think that this was a bit of a swipe at a group who aren't in the conventional clique at FIA.
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