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Post by joestoyanovich on Dec 13, 2016 18:56:52 GMT
The rather good and unexpected start to the season can now be confined to the record books. It's over. A few tweaks to the roster a few weeks ago and who knows what may have happened. As others have said I think it's a slip and slide journey down the table to 8th or 9th position. Wasted opportunity.
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Post by daviejojo on Dec 13, 2016 22:28:59 GMT
Trouble is, nobody really seems to care too much, there are still a core who can't see past the club, and never challenge them, that, alas, is why nothing will ever change
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Post by losttheplot on Dec 14, 2016 18:34:35 GMT
Trouble is, nobody really seems to care too much, there are still a core who can't see past the club, and never challenge them, that, alas, is why nothing will ever change Do people on here actually challenge the club though? To my mind they just come on here and have a moan and complain and offer fantasy solutions that are never going to happen. Do they actually offer anything constructive to the club? Are they prepared to make an investment either financially or in time? For many people the forum is just seen as as a place to vent their frustrations without actually presenting sustainable development. If people actually want change, then they have to step up anf act on it. At football clubs fans groups have succeeded in forcing changes in ownership/management but unfortunately I don't see anybody prepared to step-up and organise a proper protest or to even offer investment. Both the rovers and the pars have unofficial business mens clubs who organise events and trips and they money raised gets reinvested in the club. Who is doing anything similar for the Flyers? Or are they all too busy on here seeing who can complain the loudest?
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Dec 14, 2016 18:41:35 GMT
The way the directors and our pr and media "consultant" treat sponsors, I'm pretty sure that no one soon will want to put any money into the club.
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 14, 2016 18:55:11 GMT
Trouble is, nobody really seems to care too much, there are still a core who can't see past the club, and never challenge them, that, alas, is why nothing will ever change Do people on here actually challenge the club though? To my mind they just come on here and have a moan and complain and offer fantasy solutions that are never going to happen. Do they actually offer anything constructive to the club? Are they prepared to make an investment either financially or in time? For many people the forum is just seen as as a place to vent their frustrations without actually presenting sustainable development. If people actually want change, then they have to step up anf act on it. At football clubs fans groups have succeeded in forcing changes in ownership/management but unfortunately I don't see anybody prepared to step-up and organise a proper protest or to even offer investment. Both the rovers and the pars have unofficial business mens clubs who organise events and trips and they money raised gets reinvested in the club. Who is doing anything similar for the Flyers? Or are they all too busy on here seeing who can complain the loudest? If you scroll through this forum back into last season and further you will find various comments from posters who have approached the club with contacts for sponsorships and to offer help with PR and I'm sure website help was mentioned, so in short... yes.
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Post by losttheplot on Dec 14, 2016 19:22:13 GMT
Do people on here actually challenge the club though? To my mind they just come on here and have a moan and complain and offer fantasy solutions that are never going to happen. Do they actually offer anything constructive to the club? Are they prepared to make an investment either financially or in time? For many people the forum is just seen as as a place to vent their frustrations without actually presenting sustainable development. If people actually want change, then they have to step up anf act on it. At football clubs fans groups have succeeded in forcing changes in ownership/management but unfortunately I don't see anybody prepared to step-up and organise a proper protest or to even offer investment. Both the rovers and the pars have unofficial business mens clubs who organise events and trips and they money raised gets reinvested in the club. Who is doing anything similar for the Flyers? Or are they all too busy on here seeing who can complain the loudest? If you scroll through this forum back into last season and further you will find various comments from posters who have approached the club with contacts for sponsorships and to offer help with PR and I'm sure website help was mentioned, so in short... yes. So if they have been rebuffed what have they done? I am not criticising anyone who has offered and I think it's fantastic that they made the offer to help. My point is if people are so unhappy, as so many on this forum, rightly or wrongly, are. Where are the protests? Where are the posters at games showing the dissatisfaction? Where are the meetings with plans of action. At the moment it's just hot air amd people appear to be content to sit behind a keyboard rather than actually do something about it.
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Post by sparkymark75 on Dec 14, 2016 19:41:31 GMT
If you scroll through this forum back into last season and further you will find various comments from posters who have approached the club with contacts for sponsorships and to offer help with PR and I'm sure website help was mentioned, so in short... yes. So if they have been rebuffed what have they done? I am not criticising anyone who has offered and I think it's fantastic that they made the offer to help. My point is if people are so unhappy, as so many on this forum, rightly or wrongly, are. Where are the protests? Where are the posters at games showing the dissatisfaction? Where are the meetings with plans of action. At the moment it's just hot air amd people appear to be content to sit behind a keyboard rather than actually do something about it. Other than buying the club or not going to games, what can fans actually do? Some boo the team after a bad result. It's Tam Muir's baw, and he's keeping it.
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Post by losttheplot on Dec 14, 2016 20:47:23 GMT
So if they have been rebuffed what have they done? I am not criticising anyone who has offered and I think it's fantastic that they made the offer to help. My point is if people are so unhappy, as so many on this forum, rightly or wrongly, are. Where are the protests? Where are the posters at games showing the dissatisfaction? Where are the meetings with plans of action. At the moment it's just hot air amd people appear to be content to sit behind a keyboard rather than actually do something about it. Other than buying the club or not going to games, what can fans actually do? Some boo the team after a bad result. It's Tam Muir's baw, and he's keeping it. Yes you are right it is his, but what about if all the people who are prepared to help got together and approached the board together. If they accept help then great and if not you make the majority of the fans aware of their reluctance by using the local press, social media and leafleting outside the rink. The only way change will happen is if people are prepared to dedicate time and probably money.
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