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Post by fflyers on Jan 18, 2017 19:30:11 GMT
If the import level was still 8 or 9 who the hell would actually be playing for the flyers? I also believe the higher import number actually benefits fife Every other top tier league in Europe and beyond has more local players than imports apart from U.K. There is no evidence that supports that more imports = better business. Open your eyes
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Post by swarfiga on Jan 18, 2017 19:31:32 GMT
If the import level was still 8 or 9 who the hell would actually be playing for the flyers? I also believe the higher import number actually benefits fife Every other top tier league in Europe and beyond has more local players than imports apart from U.K. There is no evidence that supports that more imports = better business. Open your eyes Right the import level cuts to 8 tommorow, who fills the flyers roster? And most top leagues in Europe are in countries where Hockey is huge, its tiny in the U.K. And most likely always will be.
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Post by domi28 on Jan 18, 2017 19:44:17 GMT
Every other top tier league in Europe and beyond has more local players than imports apart from U.K. There is no evidence that supports that more imports = better business. Open your eyes Right the import level cuts to 8 tommorow, who fills the flyers roster? And most top leagues in Europe are in countries where Hockey is huge, its tiny in the U.K. And most likely always will be. The roster gets filled with the GB level players we have from junior development. None of our current Brits never got to the GB level as far as i know. What would teams like Braehead etc do as they have no juniors to fall back on. You can't rely on spending big money all the time, as you say hockey is tiny in the UK.
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Post by joestoyanovich on Jan 18, 2017 19:47:38 GMT
I couldn't agree more that the SNL was awful and we had to get away from it and get imports back into the line up. But there are just too many allowed in the EIHL, I'd prefer it cut back to a more sensible number, say 8 or 9, so that local players might get a chance.
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Post by fflyers on Jan 18, 2017 20:04:22 GMT
Local players will never be import level if there are no space for development. Its a tested formula, playing with better players makes you better. Our local players, as well as GB hockey as a whole, will never improve and only decrease in quality if import levels are maintained this high, it NEEDS to decrease, there is no other option. If you want to watch 15 Canadians play another 15 Canadians, go turn on premier sports, there are plenty of NHL games to watch. Anyone who wants to see young local players given an opportunity must support the reduction of imports, its the only way. And if you don't care about the local players then you're just as small-minded and ignorant as Neil Black and the other owners.
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Post by boschman76 on Jan 18, 2017 20:10:19 GMT
Sorry but as soon as any team joins a professional league set up it doesn't matter who plays for the teams it's all about getting results so it doesn't matter if the team is full off imports aliens or full time Brits its the results that count and a team like braehead I think have a deal with solway so they would just take some off there better Brits
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Jan 18, 2017 20:29:40 GMT
Local players will never be import level if there are no space for development. Its a tested formula, playing with better players makes you better. Our local players, as well as GB hockey as a whole, will never improve and only decrease in quality if import levels are maintained this high, it NEEDS to decrease, there is no other option. If you want to watch 15 Canadians play another 15 Canadians, go turn on premier sports, there are plenty of NHL games to watch. Anyone who wants to see young local players given an opportunity must support the reduction of imports, its the only way. And if you don't care about the local players then you're just as small-minded and ignorant as Neil Black and the other owners. Small minded and ignorant because we want to watch the best product available. Of course you are right because your opinion is the only one that is that matters, it's the same as saying if you want to watch local players go watch the kestrels or the juniors. There is nowhere near the amount of talent within any club in Scotland to replace a large amount of imports with home grown talent. Watch Todd's interview on Facebook he explains it perfectly.
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Post by sparkymark75 on Jan 18, 2017 21:00:39 GMT
The import level is a limit not a requirement. There's nothing stopping Flyers developing local lads up to import level and then playing them instead of flying in guys from other countries, is there? So why aren't they doing that now?
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Post by jrismahero on Jan 18, 2017 21:16:07 GMT
The more teams the merrier I think. I hope Flyers remain a part of the EIHL but I can see why we would leave if there were a viable alternative, one that reduced the ludicrous level of imports allowed. I like watching imports, better skilled and a far higher level of hockey, watched flyers nearly every game in the SNL and bored me to tears at the end of it. Bored to tears just now so what's the difference
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Post by zamboni on Jan 18, 2017 21:31:34 GMT
The EIHL is an evolving brand its attracting some big names and quality imports I cant see the import numbers being reduced however 15 should be absolute maximum I could see possibility of 3 conferences Gardiner, Clan Flyers Stars Caps
Erdhart, Devils , Giants, Panthers, Steelers
New,Blaze Flames Kings Storm No disrespect to any of the existing teams or leagues If you want to watch or play quality Ice Hockey in the UK EIHL is where you want to be
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Jan 18, 2017 21:38:36 GMT
I like watching imports, better skilled and a far higher level of hockey, watched flyers nearly every game in the SNL and bored me to tears at the end of it. Bored to tears just now so what's the difference Bored watching better players.
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Post by boschman76 on Jan 18, 2017 21:46:46 GMT
Zamboni that's what I said only I think they would keep blaze storm Steelers and panthers together easy travelling distance between them all same with Cardiff to Guildford and Mk only problem team would be Belfast
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Post by stewartgibson on Jan 18, 2017 22:27:28 GMT
Would rather watch Dingle play and work his **** off than Wilson and Gunn just trying to coast through games
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Post by fflyers on Jan 19, 2017 1:28:05 GMT
Local players will never be import level if there are no space for development. Its a tested formula, playing with better players makes you better. Our local players, as well as GB hockey as a whole, will never improve and only decrease in quality if import levels are maintained this high, it NEEDS to decrease, there is no other option. If you want to watch 15 Canadians play another 15 Canadians, go turn on premier sports, there are plenty of NHL games to watch. Anyone who wants to see young local players given an opportunity must support the reduction of imports, its the only way. And if you don't care about the local players then you're just as small-minded and ignorant as Neil Black and the other owners. Small minded and ignorant because we want to watch the best product available. Of course you are right because your opinion is the only one that is that matters, it's the same as saying if you want to watch local players go watch the kestrels or the juniors. There is nowhere near the amount of talent within any club in Scotland to replace a large amount of imports with home grown talent. Watch Todd's interview on Facebook he explains it perfectly. Do you not understand? Every other league in the entire world has a lower import cap, with more local players, yet they are better than teams in the EIHL. Why is it that in the UK we must be different, and rely solely on imports? Take Denmark for a prime example, they used to be brutal at international level, they weren't even close to GB 20 years ago... They introduce a top tier league with limited imports and all of a sudden they have NHL drafted players and are playing across the best leagues in the world. Its a simple solution, you're are thinking purely in the short term. Given the opportunity GB could easily have NHL caliber players, it just takes time and belief. Obviously there are no players able to instantly step up to EIHL level with no prior experience, however there are players that, given the chance, would be able to achieve this.
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Post by toomanymen on Jan 19, 2017 9:52:12 GMT
Dirty Lyle quote]Small minded and ignorant because we want to watch the best product available. Of course you are right because your opinion is the only one that is that matters, it's the same as saying if you want to watch local players go watch the kestrels or the juniors. There is nowhere near the amount of talent within any club in Scotland to replace a large amount of imports with home grown talent. Watch Todd's interview on Facebook he explains it perfectly. [/quote]
Explains it perfectly? Todd said he's not gonna play a 120lb's kid, has he 10-11 year old's training? A 16 year old+ would be at least 160lb+, not far off a Sisca etc
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