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Post by zamboni on Jan 1, 2013 19:34:17 GMT
Guys a lot of good points on this thread, i think Todd and Danny will be given a pre-season budget and its their call on how they spend it. Its clear to see this season there was a lot of pre-planning put in recruiting the right players,whilst it was frustraiting for the fans that we were not getting regular updates on new signings, Todd and Danny would have offers out but until a player commits they cant establish what is left within their affordability cap. I,m sure we would all agree that the quality of this seasons imports are an improvment on last years and that may be the reason we went with 9 from the start,would you swap any of our guys for any of the other Scottish teams imports possibly one or two at most,but what we have is a cohesive team and that counts for a lot,Braehead dont have that and money can't buy that. Due to the J Pitton injury we signed Chaumont probably earlier than was expected and that will have used up a chunk of the spare bunce in the budget that was accumulating over the weeks,so i would say that its unlikley that we will see import no 11 this season. Its a case of quality V quantity and the only way that will change in the future is if Flyers Commercial/Marketing team target sponsership from the bigger local corporate establishments like Deagio for example who have just started £150M+ Development at Begg Farm on western outskirts of Kirkcaldy, see this as an excellent minimum 2 year deal and it would tick the community benafits box for Diageo as major sponser of local Ice Hockey team. I would hasten to add that we apprecate the current sponsers and their continued support. Its clear to see from the attendances at the Belfast ,Dundee and Clan games that the support is there it just needs to be tapped and that will happen if we put a winning team on the ice. Then you will get your 11 imports from the start,heres hoping!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 19:45:11 GMT
just a wee point, with all this quality we have, how come we are not running away with the conference.. ?
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Post by zamboni on Jan 1, 2013 19:49:59 GMT
two points behind Braehead with games in hand were not far away
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Post by joestoyanovich on Jan 1, 2013 19:53:55 GMT
just a wee point, with all this quality we have, how come we are not running away with the conference.. ? Many of the posters on the forum see the hockey landscape through gold white and blue tinted glasses !
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Post by zamboni on Jan 1, 2013 20:33:29 GMT
Only Nottingham to beat this season what does that say. We are beating teams with twice our budget. Last year we turned up expecting to get beat. This season we are turning up expecting to win. No tinted glasses being realistic within our means. If we win our conference is that not a major acheivement? Theres no pleasing some folks........
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Post by flyer24 on Jan 1, 2013 21:49:34 GMT
Not running away with it because we have never played with more than 9 imports for a start. Played many games with 8.. I think we are doing pretty well and really think we can push for the conference. I just hope we take 4 points in the Clan double header before they improve their team. Would be lovely to getr an 11th on a short visa come the middle of the month.
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Post by joestoyanovich on Jan 1, 2013 21:52:58 GMT
Only Nottingham to beat this season what does that say. We are beating teams with twice our budget. Last year we turned up expecting to get beat. This season we are turning up expecting to win. No tinted glasses being realistic within our means. If we win our conference is that not a major acheivement? Theres no pleasing some folks........ Go Flyers !
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Post by flyer007 on Jan 2, 2013 0:30:18 GMT
Guys a lot of good points on this thread, i think Todd and Danny will be given a pre-season budget and its their call on how they spend it. Its clear to see this season there was a lot of pre-planning put in recruiting the right players,whilst it was frustraiting for the fans that we were not getting regular updates on new signings, Todd and Danny would have offers out but until a player commits they cant establish what is left within their affordability cap. I,m sure we would all agree that the quality of this seasons imports are an improvment on last years and that may be the reason we went with 9 from the start,would you swap any of our guys for any of the other Scottish teams imports possibly one or two at most,but what we have is a cohesive team and that counts for a lot,Braehead dont have that and money can't buy that. Due to the J Pitton injury we signed Chaumont probably earlier than was expected and that will have used up a chunk of the spare bunce in the budget that was accumulating over the weeks,so i would say that its unlikley that we will see import no 11 this season. Its a case of quality V quantity and the only way that will change in the future is if Flyers Commercial/Marketing team target sponsership from the bigger local corporate establishments like Deagio for example who have just started £150M+ Development at Begg Farm on western outskirts of Kirkcaldy, see this as an excellent minimum 2 year deal and it would tick the community benafits box for Diageo as major sponser of local Ice Hockey team. I would hasten to add that we apprecate the current sponsers and their continued support. Its clear to see from the attendances at the Belfast ,Dundee and Clan games that the support is there it just needs to be tapped and that will happen if we put a winning team on the ice. Then you will get your 11 imports from the start,heres hoping!! Excellent post I agree we need to go for 10+ Dutes next season and increased sponsorship would allow us to do that. I will say that I thought Dutes would struggle this season but his play has been a revelation and he definitely could do a job for another season as a player if he wanted to. He is a phenomenal PK guy and works really hard in the corners and behind the net. Whilst our brits are not at the upper echelons of the British game I believe we need to go with the 11 imports to mount a serious challenge if we can start to produce GB U20s players then absolutely cut the number of imports. I must say though our British D and all 6 of our D have been fantastic this year ok I would rather have Craig Mitchell and Forsyth over Wando and Tommy but they have done a great job on that 3rd line for us and have even been out there on the PK.
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Post by ronniemac on Jan 2, 2013 2:38:06 GMT
Zamboni, Maybe if you took those rose tinted glasses off you would see that Flyers have had the budget for an 11th import from the off farless midway through the season. Nobody is suggesting any players be gassed or traded, the fans are happy with them in all departments, its the fact that they are being asked to punch way above their weight each and every game, we are very lucky to have them as they are faultless in their commitment, perhaps the owners should show the same.
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Post by nobabody on Jan 2, 2013 7:24:51 GMT
Todd and Danny got a budget and spent as they saw fit. In my opinion we have a good team with some real cracking players, that i hope we can keep for a season or two more. My recollection of pre-season was people asking for a team that can challenge everynight, especially at home. So far thats been delivered. There's nothing wrong with wanting continual improvement, and i'm sure as pro sportsmen, the players are no different to us fans in that respect. We were promised a push at silverware, one tournament won and sitting in 7th means we'll play our conference winners, or if we can push on and win this conference we'll play.....whoever we beat to the conference, so probably the same match-up but switched h&a.
Mid term report, doing well overall, areas for improvement, more w in away column and the play-off weekend is real possibility, not just a pipedream
Happy New Year from Zakopane
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Post by zamboni on Jan 2, 2013 10:27:05 GMT
ronniemac- based on your statement you must have access to how the Flyers budget and business model works. Can you explain to the rest of us then why we didnt have 11 imports from the start. Hope your answer is going to be better than ''its not the Fife way''
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Post by Ironjaw on Jan 2, 2013 12:05:27 GMT
ronniemac- based on your statement you must have access to how the Flyers budget and business model works. Can you explain to the rest of us then why we didnt have 11 imports from the start. Hope your answer is going to be better than ''its not the Fife way'' I'll tell you why... Greed! Nothing will ever change with Fife because of the owners. It's no the happy camp you are all lead to believe, odds on Danny won't be here next season after Tommy got sat on his butt in Edinburgh. Only had to be in the pub after the game to see it almost kicking off.. Daddy won't be happy! If Stewart was in charge Tommy would of been in the Kestrels this year. Cliques are what Fife is famous for, if your face fits that's all that matters. Just need to speak to any of the players that aren't in the inner circle. thats the most accurate post iv ever seen on this forum.
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Post by rokit on Jan 2, 2013 12:12:48 GMT
Its a case of quality V quantity and the only way that will change in the future is if Flyers Commercial/Marketing team target sponsorship from the bigger local corporate establishments like Deagio for example who have just started £150M+ Development at Begg Farm on western outskirts of Kirkcaldy, see this as an excellent minimum 2 year deal and it would tick the community benifits box for Diageo as major sponser of local Ice Hockey team. Think we need to get into Diageo thing wasn't it not Murrayfield Racers that were sponsored by Smirnoff. Can you imagine the uproar in Embua if Smirnoff was the name on our shirts then
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Post by ronniemac on Jan 2, 2013 12:36:09 GMT
Zamboni, I wouldn't have put my answer as plain as Toomanymen but there is an element of that in the answer. I do have an insight into the running costs of an EIHL team and have openly discussed that with a prominent member of the inner circle in the privacy of my own office. i do not think it is for open discussion on a public forum but let me tell you a couple of facts. There are 2 other teams locally caps & stars who would give their right hand to have the income from the supporters of Fife Flyers alone farless external sponsorship. Stars base their plan on 800 supporters (direct from the Directors mouths not hearsay )whilst Caps do not have that option as is visible any game night, so how do they manage a full roster every year and produce a team that in the pre-game threads on this forum ask if Flyers will win or not, sometimes with a negative answer. We are all happy and lucky to have Flyers in the community but the supporters are the victim of spin doctoring and a lot are gullible enough to swallow it for whatever reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 12:57:26 GMT
Ronnie, dont rise to the bait.. toomanymen spot on.. highend players on big money ?... caps cheap imports, no money, less fans, they have beat the bigger teams as well,. we are amatuer at best.. there are least 4 players that are not cut out for this level.. its a joke at best.. but hey someone is making money
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