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Post by waterboy on Apr 3, 2017 19:29:51 GMT
Management level from what I heard, players out of sticks playing with broken down skates post game meal stops at mcdonalds . some of the players that had played at higher levels were in for a shock I'm sure Have a listen to Paul Hands interview on old time hockey podcast he talks about the racers back in the late 80's early 90's going to games the night before when playing down south and getting proper meals prepared for the team after games. Thats 25 years ago folks. Our team are still getting take aways after games and players drinking (in some cases heavily) during the season. Is it any wonder most players don't return or those that do like a pint or 6. Dingle and Brooks are our best forwards and amongst the very few who can play at that high pace all game long. You could see the difference on Sunday Giants looked far fitter and stronger than our boys, we simply couldnt keep the pace up. Poor powerplay yeah no wonder our top guys play the most minutes PK and then PP, is it any wonder they are not at their best. Moyer gets hurt Issacs drops back we play with 8 forwards despite having Gunny on the bench. Coaching at its best!! Storm have already said they have players signed up for next season from their current squad and hope to have more before they fly home. You cant wait in this league. Look at Braehead they aint waiting for anyone else are they!
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Post by daviejojo on Apr 3, 2017 21:39:35 GMT
We still come across as the club that waits on the Fife Free Press on a Thursday night to find out what's going on around the league eh
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Post by flyersfan on Apr 3, 2017 23:26:50 GMT
I'm not too sure about Stockton. His interview in this weeks program made his injury seem a lot worse than initially thought (Does anyone know what the injury actually was btw?) Will he be fit enough to come back is the question?
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Post by bruinsfan on Apr 4, 2017 0:56:23 GMT
And yeah would be silly to keep carlo , only managed 40 something pts playing with a defenseman and scoon on his line for 1/3 of the season as well as no PP time . Can't believe he didn't put up more points. 😂😂 - 37 points, not 40 something. - 7th top points scoring forward. - Lowest import forward points total (with over 15 games played) He is at best an average player. I'd rather flyers keep only the best players from this squad, and get an entire fresh bunch next season. I should have specified I included the challenge cup points in the 40 something.i would hope he didn't beat out the other imports cause that would have looked really bad on them with the pp time and players they played with on constant basis. He's no superstar but like I and couple others have said would like to see what he could do on a line with decent players. I was at the awards night and Todd started off his speech by mentioning him and how he has carried himself professionally and scored almost 20 goals which most people didn't think would happen. There should be meals covered by the teams especially after the games, weather it's the away team feeding the players for example. And a stack of pizzas doesn't count 🤣 The long trips the boys should leave the day before to take the "bus legs" out of the equation and give them the best chance possible. Showed in the first leg in Belfast went the day before and played a solid game. Looks like a couple coaching changes already with the clan and heard rumours paccha is out at storm. Going to be interesting off season forsure and what the new teams will be looking like with their recruiting.
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Post by waterboy on Apr 4, 2017 9:38:00 GMT
Taking the ferry bus back didn't help the team for Sunday night. That's a long trip to make and not getting back until 4/5 am on a game day isnt good.
Flights for this one occasion would have made a big difference.
Pacha out at the Storm?? would be very surprised if that happened he has done well the last 2 seasons.
On Finucci he isn't a bad player but lets be honest he wouldn't get a game for any other team outside maybe Edinburgh. If we persist on going with 3 lines our imports on the 3rd line need to be physical gritty players.
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Post by amazepux on Apr 4, 2017 10:42:39 GMT
I would say Finucci has been one of our best players this year. Excellent points production and effort given he's primarily a 3rd liner and limited PP opportunities. His direct fast skating is a huge asset and has overperformed imo. I think the ones to deffo NOT resign are:
Fox - not consistent enough. Maybe due to fitness or carrying injury but although can show glimpses of quality he is neither physical enough nor fast enough. Thinel - too slow Haines - average performer Isaacs - good grafter but again not physical enough for the role.
I would resign: Owen (excellent) Pacquet (excellent) Moyer (as either player only if fit or player coach if not) Schaber Dingle Sisca (playing with more physical direct power forward would maximise his potential) Finucci
We should be looking to sign Brits like Moore for D to complement Wands and Muir.
Wilson and Gunn are surely finished.
Chad Smith and Scoon (maybe on 2 way deals)
Other potentially good signings: Faryna Vorobyev Nickerson Jack Prince
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Post by --G-- on Apr 4, 2017 12:22:13 GMT
I think I have missed the Finucci everyone has seen - I have seen a mediocre player, who often handles the puck too long, and fails to find the passing lanes too often. But that said, he has shown some good skill and fitness, so if flyers roll 4 lines, he would be a player I wouldn’t mind back for 3rd/4th line duties.
Haines is a tough one, as I have always rated him, and was happy to see him return. However, it seems he has gone backwards somewhat. I am not sure why, maybe coming back to a team you had been a big part of, and not getting a letter on his jersey unsettled him. Maybe he has an injury. Who knows.
Building a team for next year, I would consider him a potential top 4 d man, and if whatever problems he has just now are addressable, certainly someone I would like to see in Fife. Classy guy, plays hard and offers good support from the point.
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Post by swarfiga on Apr 4, 2017 14:34:24 GMT
I think I have missed the Finucci everyone has seen - I have seen a mediocre player, who often handles the puck too long, and fails to find the passing lanes too often. But that said, he has shown some good skill and fitness, so if flyers roll 4 lines, he would be a player I wouldn’t mind back for 3rd/4th line duties. Haines is a tough one, as I have always rated him, and was happy to see him return. However, it seems he has gone backwards somewhat. I am not sure why, maybe coming back to a team you had been a big part of, and not getting a letter on his jersey unsettled him. Maybe he has an injury. Who knows. Building a team for next year, I would consider him a potential top 4 d man, and if whatever problems he has just now are addressable, certainly someone I would like to see in Fife. Classy guy, plays hard and offers good support from the point. Another 1 who loves the session pre game though, which I find a bit hypocritical since he was blasting guys fitness levels a couple years ago
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Post by --G-- on Apr 4, 2017 14:36:38 GMT
Maybe that's what it has been this year with him.
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Post by tackleberry on Apr 4, 2017 15:28:05 GMT
I don't get this 'he is a good 3rd line player rubbish'. This is the Elite league, you need all your imports to be of a high enough standard to play on any given line on any given night. Three strong lines as a bare minimum is a must in this league or you get left behind, as we have in every season since taking up membership.
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Post by daviejojo on Apr 4, 2017 15:35:28 GMT
I don't get this 'he is a good 3rd line player rubbish'. This is the Elite league, you need all your imports to be of a high enough standard to play on any given line on any given night. Three strong lines as a bear minimum is a must in this league or you get left behind, as we have in every season since taking up membership. I kind of agree. But, you will always have your stand out guys in the 1st, and the lower budget guys further down the roster. I do think you can have really good solid 3rd line guys, capable of stepping up when needed
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Post by bruinsfan on Apr 4, 2017 23:43:23 GMT
On Finucci he isn't a bad player but lets be honest he wouldn't get a game for any other team outside maybe Edinburgh. If we persist on going with 3 lines our imports on the 3rd line need to be physical gritty players.[/quote]
Only Edinburgh ? Really? 10 teams in the league , 14 imports per team allowed , so roughly 140 imports in the league? And he finished 46th in league scoring plenty of imports behind him, safe to say he would easily get games on other teams.
Farina would be a great pick up hes the type of tough guy we need because he can play the game as well not just a knuckle dragger. , but like someone stated might be doing his uni in Dundee.
I don't see owen returning sadly, unless we give him a blank check but even then I'm sure he would be gunning for a more top end league. Not saying this isn't a good league but SHL DEL NLA are big ticket leagues and I think he can work his way up there eventually.
Choice of assistant captains was a little weird for me with some veteran guys not getting an A. Coaches choice I'm guessing?
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Post by waterboy on Apr 5, 2017 15:18:28 GMT
Only Edinburgh ? Really? 10 teams in the league , 14 imports per team allowed , so roughly 140 imports in the league? And he finished 46th in league scoring plenty of imports behind him, safe to say he would easily get games on other teams. So if we don't sign him he will be snapped up by another EIHL team. I would say that is very unlikely. I will put my hands up and admit I am wrong if it happens. I will also be happy because it means he isn't back in Fife. Bringing to many of this squad back would be a major mistake, we finished with a losing record and finished bottom of the challenge cup group and were miles behind in the conference. We have just been easily out played by Belfast in the quarterfinals. Thats not a good season no matter how Todd spins it.
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Post by --G-- on Apr 5, 2017 15:24:17 GMT
On Finucci he isn't a bad player but lets be honest he wouldn't get a game for any other team outside maybe Edinburgh. If we persist on going with 3 lines our imports on the 3rd line need to be physical gritty players. Only Edinburgh ? Really? 10 teams in the league , 14 imports per team allowed , so roughly 140 imports in the league? And he finished 46th in league scoring plenty of imports behind him, safe to say he would easily get games on other teams. So if we don't sign him he will be snapped up by another EIHL team. I would say that is very unlikely. I will put my hands up and admit I am wrong if it happens. I will also be happy because it means he isn't back in Fife. Bringing to many of this squad back would be a major mistake, we finished with a losing record and finished bottom of the challenge cup group and were miles behind in the conference. We have just been easily out played by Belfast in the quarterfinals. Thats not a good season no matter how Todd spins it. The spin will be: - We had a good spell before Christmas - We beat everyone (?) in the league - We closed the gap with teams in a conference we are not even in. - We had injuries to deal with. yawn. We played the same season on repeat, but worst. People want change.
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Post by ronniemac on Apr 5, 2017 16:03:41 GMT
Finnerty has gone and he won something (again) Todd has a job where results are not high on the agenda, basically finish 8th and anything else is a bonus so why worry who he is signing, as one Director told us recently ..........you will still come to the games.
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