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Post by johndabomb on Oct 5, 2017 18:39:12 GMT
I don't think there is that much negativity. Nobody has said Jorgensen is a bad player. I think there is some understandable concerns though:
1. Our D is very small.
2. We have some toughness but a lot of this is from Gauthier and Schaber who are two thirds of our top line, not guys we want in the bin.
3. It's frustrating to see Isaacs who is our biggest and most physical stay at home d-man playing at centre.
Does this outweigh the positives so far? Definitely not and I'm more than happy for Todd to carry on proving the doubters wrong on here but I think the concerns are fair.
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Post by willie3av on Oct 5, 2017 23:31:27 GMT
There will be no requirement for Isaacs to play centre if Stockton is back
That gives two more import D-men with the signing of Jorgensen than we had last week. (4point weekend)
If folks wanted a fighter then goon 2 is on at the pictures,
It would have been great to have the muscle guy, But if you use Knickerson as an example he missed too many games thru suspensions
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Post by langtouner on Oct 6, 2017 7:16:50 GMT
There will be no requirement for Isaacs to play centre if Stockton is back That gives two more import D-men with the signing of Jorgensen than we had last week. (4point weekend) If folks wanted a fighter then goon 2 is on at the pictures, It would have been great to have the muscle guy, But if you use Knickerson as an example he missed too many games thru suspensions Nickerson missed a lot of games because at that time "DOPS" was Moray Hansen. Totally different environment now. Didn't stop Belfast or MK from signing him? How many games was he suspended for whilst at Belfast in the new DOPs era? Fitzgerald and Franks both received large bans as well but it did not stop Finnerty from signing tough guys at both Braehead and now Storm. Didn't stop Sheffield from signing Fitzgerald. Using Nickers bans as an excuse for not signing a tough guy is just ridiculous.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Oct 6, 2017 7:40:24 GMT
but not having a guy like nicker will come back to haunt you in this league when other teams start taking liberties and we end up 2 or 3 guys out injured weight it up one guy a few games suspension or possible 2 or 3 guys out long term I know what I prefer
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Post by coloradoflyer on Oct 6, 2017 7:41:07 GMT
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Post by ronniemac on Oct 6, 2017 8:42:01 GMT
Willie3av wrote.
There will be no requirement for Isaacs to play centre if Stockton is back
That gives two more import D-men with the signing of Jorgensen than we had last week. (4point weekend)
If folks wanted a fighter then goon 2 is on at the pictures,
It would have been great to have the muscle guy, But if you use Knickerson as an example he missed too many games thru suspensions [/quote]
Whilst I like Shane Stockton as a player we really need to say bye bye if he picks up another long term injury (Centre men are thin on the ground at Flyers) Fife needed a Nickerson type player no question on D, I'm not saying Jorgensen is a bad player I would rather see him in the squad than Birzins or Isaacs but would rather see a natural centre not James in that position he has been in far to often (2ND SEASON NOW). Suspensions. I don't want to see guys like Heelis, Gauthier or Schaber fighting then sitting on the penalty bench or heaven forbid sitting out with a hand injury because of fighting, that's the same result as a suspension.....games lost. Every team in the league that are serious at winning things have an enforcer type player on the roster is that a coincidence or a mistake, I don't think so as those teams are consistently in the top 5 a position Fife cannot reach but should do. I believe that the budget has been cut at Flyers if the rumour is correct and blame the coaches for that, they are responsible for the on ice product,the fans are craving for a tough character in the squad who would be a deterrent in the first instance, physically able and the answer to many empty seats being filled and shirts sold.........Nicker managed that the proof was in the pudding as they say.
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 6, 2017 10:47:27 GMT
We can go on about team toughness all we want and yes it’s been shown so far but, Heelis looks to be a lot better than expected and proved people wrong including me, he got pummelled by brooks, Moyer while it’s great standing up for himself twice came off on the worse end once against blaze, Schaber who looks to be growing as a player can clearly handle himself as can Gauthier but they’re 4 of our top players, what happens if they all got injured displaying this team toughness?!? Other teams have a couple guys that can go, but they’re not expected to be their top scorers etc, and can handle the odd suspension or injury, we can’t afford to lose Gauthier and Schaber
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 6, 2017 10:48:18 GMT
I fully expect the likes of Moyer and Heelis to start backing away from that situation as the season goes on and quite rightly so, they need 1 or 2 guys that know that role and have experience with it.
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Post by finchy on Oct 6, 2017 11:14:15 GMT
But if you use Knickerson as an example he missed too many games thru suspensions It was pants when he got suspended eh?
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Post by ronniemac on Oct 6, 2017 11:23:21 GMT
Matts problem was a one off at Flyers really (incident with Lord) he probably should not have played in that game seeing as he had just arrived in the country. Another suspension he got whilst punching a player from the players bench was a joke, DOPS were out to make an example of someone and their Rep at that time didn't help.
It wasn't pants with the income, shirts, bums on seats and who was surrounded when it came to Skate with The Flyers, jeez how many people turned up to the beard shave .........a disgrace people give him a hard time when he is back in the rink imo.
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Post by Mike on Oct 6, 2017 13:04:19 GMT
but not having a guy like nicker will come back to haunt you in this league when other teams start taking liberties and we end up 2 or 3 guys out injured weight it up one guy a few games suspension or possible 2 or 3 guys out long term I know what I prefer Do other teams' players not get hurt? Did we not have any injuries when Nickerson was here?
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Post by flyersforlife01 on Oct 6, 2017 13:18:47 GMT
The best way to stop teams taking advantage is by having a good powerplay and punishing teams when they take penalties, I've been happy with this part of the team so far. We have been scoring plenty of goals when we've been on the powerplay and with Jorgensen now here hopefully it can get even better.
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Post by zamboni on Oct 11, 2017 7:31:28 GMT
Fox on the Run Released from Kalamazoo wings Wonder if he will end up at the Clan
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Post by ronniemac on Oct 11, 2017 8:42:43 GMT
. Post by willie3av on Oct 6, 2017 at 12:31am
There will be no requirement for Isaacs to play centre if Stockton is back
Stockton is really the only natural centre Flyers have, Isaacs had quite a few shifts at centre over the weekend and will continue to do so until this ridiculous situation is attended to.
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Post by sparkymark75 on Oct 11, 2017 10:32:44 GMT
Fox on the Run Released from Kalamazoo wings Wonder if he will end up at the Clan Tripp seems to want players that work hard.
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