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Post by sparkymark75 on Apr 9, 2017 11:49:23 GMT
So, we're staying with 14 imports but they've removed the requirement for a set number of EU passport holders and introduced a requirement for 3 Brits to be under 23. The roster size has increased to 22 from 20 (or has it always been 22?).
I was thinking, where are Fife going to get 3 young guys under 23 from. But then they'll probably just pluck 3 young guys from somewhere and keep them as bench warmers all season. Fulfilling the requirement by the letter but not really filling the spirit of it.
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Billkmc
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Post by Billkmc on Apr 9, 2017 12:10:11 GMT
You're probably right. My guess is Todd's plan for this would be instead of gunny and torch benchwarming it will be guys like Chad Smith and Marty Simpson, the third would probably be someone like Andy Little as backup goalie and hope the import goalie stays fit all season.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Apr 9, 2017 12:23:55 GMT
More waste of time rules, the rule should be those under 23 players must play
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Apr 9, 2017 12:53:57 GMT
More waste of time rules, the rule should be those under 23 players must play And how do you propose they enforce such a rule ?
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Post by coloradoflyer on Apr 9, 2017 13:00:22 GMT
Oh i know but it's not fair to these guys
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Post by Marky on Apr 9, 2017 14:02:10 GMT
Pretty stupid rule to have 3 under 23 players on your bench, especially at Fife. You are effectively stifling their development and ending their careers. As we all know they will get very limited ice time, if any at all.
So these guys whoever they may be are going to go from playing every single week with their current teams to training with an EIHL squad and get very, very limited ice time.
How the feck is that going to improve them as players. Stupid idea.
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Post by pink on Apr 9, 2017 15:25:53 GMT
Just thing Tam Muir will love it he will not need to pay the under 23 just put them on a 2 way with the Kestrels
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Post by waterboy on Apr 10, 2017 9:45:27 GMT
Can they not sign I don't know 6 prospects and rotate them in and out too the kestrels two way deals?
Chad Smith Caly Robertson the Simpson brothers Reece Cochrane and Andrew Little. That's a full line and a goalie.
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Post by Marky on Apr 10, 2017 10:21:41 GMT
Can they not sign I don't know 6 prospects and rotate them in and out too the kestrels two way deals? Chad Smith Caly Robertson the Simpson brothers Reece Cochrane and Andrew Little. That's a full line and a goalie. That actually makes perfect sense and would be good to see them going down this road. This way the guys aren't going to get stifled and not play at all. As they will still get good ice time with the Kestrels. Don't know if the Kestrels would be happy with this scenario though?
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Post by johndabomb on Apr 10, 2017 12:20:40 GMT
I don't think the under-23 rule is a bad one. You could argue that it just leaves Brits bench warming but that is all down to the coach and in any case isn't any better or worse than what some clubs are doing already.
If you want to develop youth players then this rule isn't a problem. Take Dundee who have given reasonable ice time to Moore, Grieveson, McGiffin and to a lesser extent Edmonds and Inglis all season. Then take us who had Smith sat on the bench for half a dozen games.
If the Flyers and the coach were to embrace this rule and have say Little as backup with Chad Smith, Caly Robertson, Martyn Simpson and Reece Cochrane being blooded and getting genuine ice time on the third or even a fourth line then it would be ideal. Keep Wands as a solid Brit d-man and bin the rest of last seasons Brits with the possible exception of Scoon.
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Post by waterboy on Apr 10, 2017 12:49:47 GMT
The coaches at KIHC are shouting out for these kids to have a development path to the flyers, they have been for some time. They would be happy for any player to get proper development with the flyers in the EIHL.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Apr 10, 2017 13:49:29 GMT
I don't think the under-23 rule is a bad one. You could argue that it just leaves Brits bench warming but that is all down to the coach and in any case isn't any better or worse than what some clubs are doing already. If you want to develop youth players then this rule isn't a problem. Take Dundee who have given reasonable ice time to Moore, Grieveson, McGiffin and to a lesser extent Edmonds and Inglis all season. Then take us who had Smith sat on the bench for half a dozen games. If the Flyers and the coach were to embrace this rule and have say Little as backup with Chad Smith, Caly Robertson, Martyn Simpson and Reece Cochrane being blooded and getting genuine ice time on the third or even a fourth line then it would be ideal. Keep Wands as a solid Brit d-man and bin the rest of last seasons Brits with the possible exception of Scoon. Grievson hardly left the bench all season and virtually not at all since Christmas, to small and light to be any use as a d man in this league.
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Post by gmac on Apr 11, 2017 3:36:28 GMT
And a youngster like Tyler Plews just becomes even more important to any club. Under 23 and with elite minutes under his belt, the boy might find himself in demand for next season
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Apr 11, 2017 6:43:34 GMT
And a youngster like Tyler Plews just becomes even more important to any club. Under 23 and with elite minutes under his belt, the boy might find himself in demand for next season Why pay someone like Plews to sit on the bench, when you can get junior players to do the same for free or "the experience"
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Post by harlan on Apr 11, 2017 11:01:57 GMT
The under 23 rule is if you only want to have a bench size of 22.
If you go with 19 then you don't have to have any under 23s, if you go for players 20,21 and 22 then those have to be under 23
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