The Grim

[jeeves]

The Grim.......

this so called forum a cave of naysayers and folk   " in the know"  . If you have any positive comment ...a happy clapper....

This was a good forum a few years back ...good stuff posted..now...well Ill just join in so Im not a happy clapper and say get Todd out and hockey in Kirkcaldy is rubbish.

So much so Ill have to boost my ego by posting and pontificating on here when Flyers lose ...and keep my face shut when they are on a  winning streak.

This forum is becoming a parody of a FANS forum.

Having been a regular since 1977  ....I know miserable gits when I hear them.....and I hear them  here.

There is a regular poster here who admitted they only went to about 6 games last season ....hilarious and yet they post here on this that and the next thing. Wont name names cause of the avalanche of those who will bite back.....with which I have no problem. 

Is there such a negative team forum elsewhere in Hockey Uk.....probably not.

[thomas]

I am domiciled in England so don't get a chance to attend games but have been a supporter since 1946. I totally agree this forum seems to be a platform for moaning minnies, never happy whatever happens and it is getting worse.

[flyers2014]

No I would disagree. These fans are arguably the most passionate ones about. They want the best for the Flyers and can see there is a massive potential which is not being met because of the shambolic clique which exists. I bet if half the changes that were mentioned on here were implemented, then Flyers would be thriving! Hopefully this is the year we see some major change which will bring back the buzz.

[sparkymark75]

Instead of moaning about the moaners (the irony!), why don't you set an example and share some positive news regarding the club? Other than still being in the EIHL, there's not exactly much to be excited/positive about at this point in time. There appear to be no fundamental changes being made which means fans are already being setup to expect more of the same.

[sjam1987]

Apparently there has been meetings throughout the week with directors, coaches, bench staff and all other staff. Heard there is going to be big changes not only on the ice but the off ice product as well. This is an area that badly needs fixing and hopefully that will then show on the ice. Time will tell

[Dirty Lyle]

May 28, 2017 8:57:37 GMT sjam1987 said:

Apparently there has been meetings throughout the week with directors, coaches, bench staff and all other staff. Heard there is going to be big changes not only on the ice but the off ice product as well. This is an area that badly needs fixing and hopefully that will then show on the ice. Time will tell

I believe "the penny has dropped" and the right words are now being said ...let's see if they turn into actions, I am more confident than been in years though...if Tams nerves hold.

[Billkmc]

May 28, 2017 9:09:43 GMT Dirty Lyle said:

May 28, 2017 8:57:37 GMT sjam1987 said:

Apparently there has been meetings throughout the week with directors, coaches, bench staff and all other staff. Heard there is going to be big changes not only on the ice but the off ice product as well. This is an area that badly needs fixing and hopefully that will then show on the ice. Time will tell

I believe "the penny has dropped" and the right words are now being said ...let's see if they turn into actions, I am more confident than been in years though...if Tams nerves hold.

Ronnie had his retirement party a couple of weeks ago so some of the meetings could have something to do with the new guy coming in. Apparently he used to run Rothes halls so he'll probably come in with new ideas.

[waterboy]

This comes from our Coach,

This is a hockey town and we need to put together a club that is not only going to be competitive, but reflects what this town wants to see and get behind,” Dutiaume told the Press.

“This club needs players that are hard-nosed, and aren’t going to be pushed around.

“In the era of the EIHL, people have responded when we’ve had that bit of toughness in the line-up.“I think it’s crucial we locate that, not only in an individual player, but in a team ethos.

“I think this town will respond to that, but we also can’t lose our advantage of the big ice at home, where we have speed and talent intermingled in that.

“No matter what anybody says we’re a gate-based club and to thrive as an organisation we have to provide the product people want to see week in, week out.

“It’s getting difficult with the vast financial differences in this league, but it’s not impossible, and now that the club is confirmed in the EIHL for another season, there’s a positive feel around the place.

More importantly he also said this,

He voiced his own concerns to directors over the club’s often reclusive approach to PR and is keen to play his part in making the club more open and accessible. “We’re going to have increased duties, on and off the ice,” he said. “As coach I sometimes go intraverted and don’t show what we’re doing behind the scenes as much. There’ll be a lot more transparency form myself. I want to have more interaction with the fans. “We will be showing pictures of guys at the gym, in the community, at team meals, and in the dressing room before games. I was a little slow off the mark in the digital age, but it’s what people want. “They want the whole experience. They don’t just want to sit there and watch hockey. I’m sometimes a purist when it comes to that. “But nowadays it’s a whole package and if, as a group, we’re saying we need people in the seats, we really need to provide the full package. “I feel we are more than capable of doing it and people are excited about taking these initiatives into the new season. Now it’s up to myself to put a good team together.”

Read more at: www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/dutiaume-keen-to-build-flyers-team-around-entertainment-and-toughness-1-4449712

Your post Jeeves is so out of touch with what pretty much everybody on this forum says or does. We all see what a success this club could be if it stepped out of the dark ages and was actually ran like other clubs in this league.

Instead we have put up with season after season of the club still acting like its the early 90's and they can do nothing and folk will just turn up. The days of waiting for the FFP to come out to see who we have signed are history, this club or more specifically a few at the top need to take their heads out the sand bucket and wake up that times have changed.
They don't need to like it or understand any off it but they do need to find someone who does and let them get on with the job.

What I am saying is hire a GM and let him run the hockey operation. In this day and age its a full time role that needs the proper focus on it to give the team the best chance for success. It shouldn't be something Tam does when he has time during the summer!

Look at Manchester heading into there 3rd season and their social media presence and drive to improve on every front is very impressive. With their new ownership and Finner on board that will only get better.

You still hear rumours stories of players out boozing in the lead up to games if that one thing alone doesn't show there is faults within the club I dont know what will. Should guys enjoy a beer or 2 off course but at the right time and place, getting leathered during the season simply shouldn't be happening.


Did you watch the overtime of the playoff final? did you see the pace the steelers played at? they skated Cardiff into the ground during that overtime. My question: Do you think the flyers could have played at that pace in the second game in 2 days and through overtime? Unless you can say yes with 100% conviction then you have to admit the TEAM is not being run as it should be in todays game!

[swarfiga]

May 28, 2017 9:09:43 GMT Dirty Lyle said:

May 28, 2017 8:57:37 GMT sjam1987 said:

Apparently there has been meetings throughout the week with directors, coaches, bench staff and all other staff. Heard there is going to be big changes not only on the ice but the off ice product as well. This is an area that badly needs fixing and hopefully that will then show on the ice. Time will tell

I believe "the penny has dropped" and the right words are now being said ...let's see if they turn into actions, I am more confident than been in years though...if Tams nerves hold.

Really hope that's true mate, if it is they'll need to get moving if they want to get fans back on side, a lot of disinterest this off season

[coloradoflyer]

is it any wonder there is disinterest I mean jesus lets just tell everyone we have the same coach and oh by the way your top 2 players have gone plus at least one other aye let's all run out and by a season ticket come on flyers eh get your finger out or guess what people might turn round and say keep yer season ticket

[swarfiga]

Yup it's going to take something major to get folks back on side, personally with Todd and Hutchins at the helm I'm not sure they can make any significant strides

[zamboni]

The Storm nailed it
New Ownership confirmed
Finnerty confirmed as Head Coach
First Signing announced Rosehill arguably best Enforcer in League with NHL and AHL pedigree
5 minute PR Youtube video from Storm GM announcing Season Tickets on sale 29 May Folks
Now there is something to get you filling in that application form

What Flyers now need is that big signing announcement, an Enforcer, Justin Faryna, Poulin,Brooks,etc
That will get interest.
The club are going to shake things up this season in a response to the fans, I had a discussion with a member of FF Staff a week ago and what Dutes has been saying in the press is the intention
Once they have signed Contracts back from players things will start to move, the uncertainty of if we were in or out this season has held pre-season recruitment announcements back.
Granted not off to best of Starts with the Paquet gaff but anybody can make mistakes
Hopefully news sometime this week...............

[swarfiga]

May 29, 2017 10:38:44 GMT zamboni said:

The Storm nailed it
New Ownership confirmed
Finnerty confirmed as Head Coach
First Signing announced Rosehill arguably best Enforcer in League with NHL and AHL pedigree
5 minute PR Youtube video from Storm GM announcing Season Tickets on sale 29 May Folks
Now there is something to get you filling in that application form

What Flyers now need is that big signing announcement, an Enforcer, Justin Faryna, Poulin,Brooks,etc
That will get interest.
The club are going to shake things up this season in a response to the fans, I had a discussion with a member of FF Staff a week ago and what Dutes has been saying in the press is the intention
Once they have signed Contracts back from players things will start to move, the uncertainty of if we were in or out this season has held pre-season recruitment announcements back.
Granted not off to best of Starts with the Paquet gaff but anybody can make mistakes
Hopefully news sometime this week...............

I genuinely mean this Zamboni, I applaude your never ending optimism when it comes to the flyers, fair play to you.

[ronniemac]

Jeeves ever heard of the saying Cannae see the woods for the trees....well you obviously fall into that bracket you fail to see / understand the affection and ambition that The Moaners as you call us have for Fife Flyers perhaps you would like an apology from all and sundry for having much higher sights and goals for the club than the owner(s) has.
A forum is a place for discussion where differences of opinion are expressed hoping to lead to betterment, the management and coaching staff are coming round to the way this forum has thought for 6 years perhaps you should change yours.

[coloradoflyer]

have to say most of us on here are long time supporters of the club, and back when i first started going we where always top 3 in the league in contention for all the trophies, also at the time we didn't a dj to help us clap or indeed do it for us, the place was electric jumping away teams hated coming here. and now look at us laughing stock of the top league PR is just aweful owners stuck in the dark ages match night is guff, and not long ago the owners showed faith in the fans by dispanding the supports club and now no volunteers helping with the programme it's getting worse instead of better