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Post by kestrelsfan on Aug 29, 2017 18:48:35 GMT
A budget team like Flyers cannot afford to carry an injured import for 3 seasons. They have done good by him in the past but time to cut ties now. Its not even as if Stockton is that good a player in my opinion. I can't recall him being injured the first season he was here. If Elite Prospects is correct he only missed 4 league games all season. Surely Flyers are obligated to "look after" any player who suffers any mishap on the ice?
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Post by joestoyanovich on Aug 29, 2017 19:28:39 GMT
He's been very unlucky that's for sure. If it turns out it's gonna be a month or more out I think he should be replaced.
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Post by tackleberry on Aug 29, 2017 19:37:23 GMT
A budget team like Flyers cannot afford to carry an injured import for 3 seasons. They have done good by him in the past but time to cut ties now. Its not even as if Stockton is that good a player in my opinion. I can't recall him being injured the first season he was here. If Elite Prospects is correct he only missed 4 league games all season. Surely Flyers are obligated to "look after" any player who suffers any mishap on the ice? Thought he was out for longer than that? I recall him playing a bit better after he had the lay off.
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Post by tackleberry on Aug 29, 2017 20:18:22 GMT
I would imagine Flyers would have something in Stocktons contract regarding injury? As much as I like Stocks it's time to be ruthless and give him his notice, if indeed it is another long term injury. I know it's a different injury from last seasons but that's 3 seasons in a row now he has been sidelined with a long term injury. The gamble in bringing him back has backfired. Ok doc thanks for the update. Sorry you've lost me! Where have I given an update or commented on the nature of his injury?
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Post by rossco on Aug 30, 2017 7:29:37 GMT
Ok doc thanks for the update. Sorry you've lost me! Where have I given an update or commented on the nature of his injury? The "gamble on him has backfired" sounds to me as though you have a diagnosis.
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Post by swarfiga on Aug 30, 2017 7:39:49 GMT
Sorry you've lost me! Where have I given an update or commented on the nature of his injury? The "gamble on him has backfired" sounds to me as though you have a diagnosis. Of course is was a gamble!! The guy doesn't need to have a diagnosis, he missed the full season basically last year and is out injured already, seems pretty spot on to me
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Post by swarfiga on Aug 30, 2017 7:40:46 GMT
And even before his injury last season, we sit not far behind the bench he comes off multiple times a game in some sort of pain.
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rossco
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Post by rossco on Aug 30, 2017 8:19:18 GMT
The "gamble on him has backfired" sounds to me as though you have a diagnosis. Of course is was a gamble!! The guy doesn't need to have a diagnosis, he missed the full season basically last year and is out injured already, seems pretty spot on to me A second opinion, that's it confirmed then.
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Post by jambitink on Aug 30, 2017 8:28:33 GMT
Of course is was a gamble!! The guy doesn't need to have a diagnosis, he missed the full season basically last year and is out injured already, seems pretty spot on to me A second opinion, that's it confirmed then. He's quite clearly injury prone. To have been injured the past two seasons and now to be injured after game 2 of the season, its quite obvious. It was a huge risk for Flyers to bring him back this season. I'd understand the risk if he was an exceptional player, but he is bang average. Why would Flyers take the risk of having an injured import on the books once again with very little upside? He must of took a cut in wages to repay the teams loyalty. Its the only scenario that makes sense.
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Post by Mike on Aug 30, 2017 8:47:04 GMT
A second opinion, that's it confirmed then. He's quite clearly injury prone. To have been injured the past two seasons and now to be injured after game 2 of the season, its quite obvious. He was injured last season. When was he injured the season before? It's fine to have an opinion but let's not just make things up to try to support it. He played 48 games that season. And last season he was our leading scorer when he got hurt. I'd understand the "the gamble backfired" thing if he'd reinjured the same injury as last year, but anyone can hurt their shoulder and one is fairly obviously nothing to do with the other.
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Post by hockeydude on Aug 30, 2017 9:17:47 GMT
Ah but making up a story to support their negative case is what the small group of moaners on this forum just live to do!
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Post by waterboy on Aug 30, 2017 9:20:40 GMT
Shayne did pick up an injury in his first season (as does every single player during a season) but only missed a handful off games. Last season ligament damage ended his year, this year an unfortunate/unlucky play damages his shoulder. No injury was any fault of his it's just bad luck. Does he seem prone to getting hurt? Honestly no I don't think anyone can say that, nothing has backfired in the gamble to bring him back. His leg isn't the issue (if it was then yeah the gamble wouldn't have worked).
He has had one serious injury in his time here and we have no idea what this one is as yet, these 2 injuries have nothing to do with each other.
I wouldn't have brought him back this season, don't think he was that good we had to bring him back, he looked to have lost a step on the ice on sunday (possibly just lack of match fitness and the second game effect).
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Post by ronniemac on Aug 30, 2017 10:38:56 GMT
Personally I like Shane Stockton, I see the work he does on all the shifts he is on + PP and especially PK. His points average is pretty good and on the only game I saw at the weekend I thought either Shane or Chase was MOM. Injuries are a fact of sporting life and had this one been on the same knee I would think time would have to be called but until that is the case he should be kept, if it is a couple of months or so then Flyers need 2 imports pronto, maybe Hutchins can pull a couple of late bargains out of the bag he was looking in AKA Braehead's latest acquisition.
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Post by perthfifeflyer on Aug 31, 2017 11:38:40 GMT
Not the best of videos, but a couple players looking a bit on the heavy side in the bleep test video that's been uploaded. Hopefully just the camera angle....
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Post by sparkymark75 on Aug 31, 2017 11:43:07 GMT
Not the best of videos, but a couple players looking a bit on the heavy side in the bleep test video that's been uploaded. Hopefully just the camera angle.... They do say the camera adds 10lbs
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