ted
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Post by ted on Jan 2, 2013 22:34:59 GMT
yes ...lol
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Jan 2, 2013 23:02:20 GMT
Money, money, money... The conference is obviously too close so they feel they need to spend even more money as they can't have other teams around them beating them! Once Drew Miller goes we'll be down to 8 imports - are you saying we shouldn't be bringing anyone else in??? I can see your point but Braehead have been an absolute circus this season and it doesn't reflect well on the league. Clan are effectively a rich mans 'franchise' using hired hands- and that's ok in a sense, but the constant chopping and changing just reeks of a situation where it's only seen as acceptable for an arena team to be wiping the floor with the smaller clubs to satisfy the fan base who are used to it and the owner who doesn't want competition. How can Clan fans identify with the team? It's so artificial. I think the point being made is that if Clan do finally end up with the team which wins them the conference it's simply because of money- wheres the achievement? Krestanovich already admitted it wasn't his decision to sack Chaumont and Campbell- maybe he thought he could actually coach the team to better results?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 23:16:56 GMT
Not saying your wrong Finchy, but do honestly think Todd and Danny think Tommy should be in the team ?... same difference to JK having no say in his teams departures
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Post by billbris on Jan 2, 2013 23:28:12 GMT
Once Drew Miller goes we'll be down to 8 imports - are you saying we shouldn't be bringing anyone else in??? I can see your point but Braehead have been an absolute circus this season and it doesn't reflect well on the league. Clan are effectively a rich mans 'franchise' using hired hands- and that's ok in a sense, but the constant chopping and changing just reeks of a situation where it's only seen as acceptable for an arena team to be wiping the floor with the smaller clubs to satisfy the fan base who are used to it and the owner who doesn't want competition. How can Clan fans identify with the team? It's so artificial. I think the point being made is that if Clan do finally end up with the team which wins them the conference it's simply because of money- wheres the achievement? Krestanovich already admitted it wasn't his decision to sack Chaumont and Campbell- maybe he thought he could actually coach the team to better results? Is that a 'yes' then?
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Post by Dirkster23 on Jan 2, 2013 23:28:16 GMT
Not saying your wrong Finchy, but do honestly think Todd and Danny think Tommy should be in the team ?... same difference to JK having no say in his teams departures Out of interest, who would be our 6th defencemen if it wasn't Tommy? I agree he's the weakest of the D men, but he's the only guy back there that'll drop the gloves. Take him out the equation and we're a soft touch in defence.
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jon
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Post by jon on Jan 2, 2013 23:30:42 GMT
Playing the director's son is quite different to gassing players left, right and centre with no explanation. I find it pretty unlikely Todd and Danny are unhappy with their lot at Fife - Todd with his long service to the club and Danny stating he would like to stay,even settle here. Not sure that'll be the case with Krestanovich in Glasgow. Pure conjecture though.
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Jan 2, 2013 23:56:29 GMT
I can see your point but Braehead have been an absolute circus this season and it doesn't reflect well on the league. Clan are effectively a rich mans 'franchise' using hired hands- and that's ok in a sense, but the constant chopping and changing just reeks of a situation where it's only seen as acceptable for an arena team to be wiping the floor with the smaller clubs to satisfy the fan base who are used to it and the owner who doesn't want competition. How can Clan fans identify with the team? It's so artificial. I think the point being made is that if Clan do finally end up with the team which wins them the conference it's simply because of money- wheres the achievement? Krestanovich already admitted it wasn't his decision to sack Chaumont and Campbell- maybe he thought he could actually coach the team to better results? Is that a 'yes' then? Absolutely Clan need to bring guys in. Black should be aiming for a bit more stability in future though!
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Post by davidgee on Jan 3, 2013 3:19:36 GMT
Is that a 'yes' then? Absolutely Clan need to bring guys in. Black should be aiming for a bit more stability in future though! In the first 2 seasons of the Clan's history only 2 players were released or left during the season . That is an extremely small amount and probably the lowest in the league. The club has had stability during the past 2 seasons (okay maybe not with the coaches in the off-season) but due to poor results this season and loads of injuries the club has tried to make as many changes as possible to get the team winning. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and that in no way makes a team 'artificial' IMO. They have the 4th biggest fanbase in the league and to be not far of bottom is potentially disastrous for them so I wouldn't say this is a case of 'the owner who doesn't want competition' but more just a team trying to get back to where it should be
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Post by Ironjaw on Jan 3, 2013 9:17:46 GMT
I don't see why people keep having a go at Braehead on this and banging on about flyers being great. Braehead are top of the conference, 6th in the league with a depleted team, sure they would have probably expected more till now and they've had a fair few coming and goings but if they beat us even once this weekend that leaves them pretty well off with the arrival of a few bodies coming in next week.
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Jan 3, 2013 10:54:07 GMT
Absolutely Clan need to bring guys in. Black should be aiming for a bit more stability in future though! In the first 2 seasons of the Clan's history only 2 players were released or left during the season . That is an extremely small amount and probably the lowest in the league. The club has had stability during the past 2 seasons (okay maybe not with the coaches in the off-season) but due to poor results this season and loads of injuries the club has tried to make as many changes as possible to get the team winning. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and that in no way makes a team 'artificial' IMO. They have the 4th biggest fanbase in the league and to be not far of bottom is potentially disastrous for them so I wouldn't say this is a case of 'the owner who doesn't want competition' but more just a team trying to get back to where it should be Back to where it should be? They have a divine right? Maybe next season the league table can be decided on average attendance? So will Clan fans only retain their interest in hockey if the team is swotting aside 'smaller' clubs?
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spudeeelad
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Post by spudeeelad on Jan 3, 2013 11:49:52 GMT
I'd doubt he'll ever fufill his potential- he's just too full of himself. He's still only 21. Give him until he's 25/26 and then he'll matured a bit. How many Brit players do you know that by 21 they've been running at 0.77 ppg? By the time he's 25, I think that'll easily be over 1.00 ppg
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spudeeelad
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Post by spudeeelad on Jan 3, 2013 11:57:38 GMT
In the first 2 seasons of the Clan's history only 2 players were released or left during the season . That is an extremely small amount and probably the lowest in the league. The club has had stability during the past 2 seasons (okay maybe not with the coaches in the off-season) but due to poor results this season and loads of injuries the club has tried to make as many changes as possible to get the team winning. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and that in no way makes a team 'artificial' IMO. They have the 4th biggest fanbase in the league and to be not far of bottom is potentially disastrous for them so I wouldn't say this is a case of 'the owner who doesn't want competition' but more just a team trying to get back to where it should be Back to where it should be? They have a divine right? Maybe next season the league table can be decided on average attendance? So will Clan fans only retain their interest in hockey if the team is swotting aside 'smaller' clubs? Are you really asking this question? Of course they will. That is a proven thing in UKIH. When Steelers stuck to the old wage cap for a season, they finished 6th and their attendances dropped even further! They were barely getting 1000 people into Ice Sheffield.
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Post by davidgee on Jan 3, 2013 11:57:44 GMT
In the first 2 seasons of the Clan's history only 2 players were released or left during the season . That is an extremely small amount and probably the lowest in the league. The club has had stability during the past 2 seasons (okay maybe not with the coaches in the off-season) but due to poor results this season and loads of injuries the club has tried to make as many changes as possible to get the team winning. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and that in no way makes a team 'artificial' IMO. They have the 4th biggest fanbase in the league and to be not far of bottom is potentially disastrous for them so I wouldn't say this is a case of 'the owner who doesn't want competition' but more just a team trying to get back to where it should be Back to where it should be? They have a divine right? Maybe next season the league table can be decided on average attendance? So will Clan fans only retain their interest in hockey if the team is swotting aside 'smaller' clubs? I never said they had a divine right or they need to be swotting aside smaller clubs. The fact is the club is spending lots of money and not getting results so they are making changes. That is how modern sport works, get used to it
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Jan 3, 2013 12:07:11 GMT
Back to where it should be? They have a divine right? Maybe next season the league table can be decided on average attendance? So will Clan fans only retain their interest in hockey if the team is swotting aside 'smaller' clubs? I never said they had a divine right or they need to be swotting aside smaller clubs. The fact is the club is spending lots of money and not getting results so they are making changes. That is how modern sport works, get used to it I am used to it. Just don't get offended when people talk about Clan as a chequebook hockey club when thats what you're confirming they are.
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Jan 3, 2013 12:14:29 GMT
Back to where it should be? They have a divine right? Maybe next season the league table can be decided on average attendance? So will Clan fans only retain their interest in hockey if the team is swotting aside 'smaller' clubs? Are you really asking this question? Of course they will. That is a proven thing in UKIH. When Steelers stuck to the old wage cap for a season, they finished 6th and their attendances dropped even further! They were barely getting 1000 people into Ice Sheffield. It was more a rhetorical question. When Braehead played in Fife last week their away support was about half of what it had been previously- at a time of year when crowds are generally up. More fool the ones who missed a good display by their team but yeah I think it proves that The Purple Army require Uncle Neil to provide them with a guaranteed winning team.
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