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Post by tackleberry on Jan 31, 2018 23:07:46 GMT
Not defending him as his actions were terrible but.....I disagree about the bit where they say he transfers the stick from one hand to the other before leaving the ice to free up his right hand so therefore his actions were pre-meditated. I think he freed up his right hand to barge through the door, then the fan got in his face so the fan got it instead of the door. Makes a total mockery of the leniency afforded to Neilsen which in my mind was a lot worse as he hit out several times whereas Nickerson only hit out once.
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Post by teamshaky on Feb 1, 2018 6:48:47 GMT
Not defending him as his actions were terrible but.....I disagree about the bit where they say he transfers the stick from one hand to the other before leaving the ice to free up his right hand so therefore his actions were pre-meditated. I think he freed up his right hand to barge through the door, then the fan got in his face so the fan got it instead of the door. Makes a total mockery of the leniency afforded to Neilsen which in my mind was a lot worse as he hit out several times whereas Nickerson only hit out once.
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Post by teamshaky on Feb 1, 2018 7:00:33 GMT
Not defending him as his actions were terrible but.....I disagree about the bit where they say he transfers the stick from one hand to the other before leaving the ice to free up his right hand so therefore his actions were pre-meditated. I think he freed up his right hand to barge through the door, then the fan got in his face so the fan got it instead of the door. Makes a total mockery of the leniency afforded to Neilsen which in my mind was a lot worse as he hit out several times whereas Nickerson only hit out once. I think the EIHL are sending out a clear message this season, that there is no place for enforcers in our league, some teams in the past highest earners have been enforcers. After the success of Nottingham in Europe this has ehanced the reputation of the EIHL, getting rid of the overpaid thugs and replacing them with quality can only enhance the EIHL even further, but to attrack these players the EIHL have to get the message out.
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Post by swarfiga on Feb 1, 2018 7:05:07 GMT
I don’t see how the first bit warrants 6 games, we’ve seen players do far worse to officials and no get 6 games, also how is throwing 1 backhand at a fan on the way out 3 times worse than jumping into the seats and throwing multiple punches like Neilson did?
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Post by tartanflyer0198 on Feb 1, 2018 10:18:44 GMT
I think we need to keep a couple things in mind for this 20 game ban. Although 6 games seems excessive for abuse of official and the 14 games seems way heavier (though warranted In its own right) compared to Neilsons attack on a fife fan...:
1. Eihl dops is not how it used to be. Things are way more strict now with a proper entity in place and this is them flexing and showing that this behaviour won’t be tolerated - period. If this dops were in place last year you can bet neilsons ban would have been way more severe. Trying to compare last years dops to this years is comparing apples and oranges.
2. Dops is assessing a higher number of games banned for repeat offenders which we know Nickerson is. It’s their way of giving a strike 2 to a guy who takes liberties.
All in all, i think dops is trying to do a better job and be more consistent moving forwards. They can’t look back on Previous seasons when dops was in shambles to try to keep ban times and calls the same - that’s not the point of the new dops. They are assessing as they see fit and I’m willing to support it so long as there is consistency throughout the league with no certain teams (Sheffield) earmarked for special behaviour.
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Post by bruinsfan on Feb 1, 2018 12:50:09 GMT
I think the EIHL are sending out a clear message this season, that there is no place for enforcers in our league, some teams in the past highest earners have been enforcers. After the success of Nottingham in Europe this has ehanced the reputation of the EIHL, getting rid of the overpaid thugs and replacing them with quality can only enhance the EIHL even further, but to attrack these players the EIHL have to get the message out. Well said, league is years behind the other leagues. Understandably so, Ice hockey is not close to the biggest sport in the country. Step in the right direction to phase these guys out or at least take their ability to bully and be idiots away. So they better be able to play or they will be useless.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Feb 1, 2018 14:42:01 GMT
nickerson parts company with MK
Following an incident in Guildford on Sunday and the subsequent DOPS report, The Smith Recycling Milton Keynes Lightning and Matt Nickerson have parted company with immediate effect.
Ice Hockey is a family sport and it is unacceptable that at any time supporters are threatened or made to feel unsafe.
As a club we do not condone what happened and Matt has been held accountable for his actions by both the Elite League Department of Player Safety and by the club.
Milton Keynes Lightning takes the safety of their players, opposing players and most importantly the spectators very seriously, and the League need to ensure that all member clubs are compliant in their player and spectator safety procedures.
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Post by fatbob on Feb 1, 2018 20:02:55 GMT
I think this guy describes it perfectly:
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Post by zamboni on Feb 1, 2018 21:20:46 GMT
He does and he is dead right no fans should get anywhere near players the League needs to do something about it The league failed to protect Matt 20 games is to much think they just wanted Matts season done 6 games is plenty The fan might think twice about doing it again Never forget the run in season 4 Matt was instrumental we lost 1-0 in the big end of season show to a Paul Adey Belfast team that ran away with the league Yet the two seasons under Derrick Walser Matt seemed to toe the line
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Post by flyersfaninspain on Feb 2, 2018 0:16:40 GMT
I think this guy describes it perfectly: Here is me thinking it was a BRITISH LEAGUE
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Post by nobabody on Feb 2, 2018 8:02:48 GMT
I think this guy describes it perfectly: Here is me thinking it was a BRITISH LEAGUE UK league
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Post by xbar16 on Feb 2, 2018 9:29:44 GMT
14 games is excessive I don't think he ment to hit the fan it looks to me like he wanted to bang on the plexi out of frustration but the door swung out so by the time the hit landed it connected with a fan instead of the door. The fan was clearly being an ass and clearly pushed the door open so has to take some blame for puting himself in an unsafe position. Had he not pushed the door open nickerson would have hammered the plexi and been given a ban to reflect a minor issue same as Rosehill and Fitzy have had for their incidents leaving the ice. I feel for the guy coz off the ice he's a gentleman and I honestly don't think it was his intention. That's just my 2 cents though.
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Post by xbar16 on Feb 2, 2018 9:31:06 GMT
Also, the storm player incident with the fan at Fife was way worse. Nothing says premeditated quite like climbing a wall to punch someone's head in lol
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Post by flyersfaninspain on Feb 2, 2018 17:12:42 GMT
14 games is excessive I don't think he ment to hit the fan it looks to me like he wanted to bang on the plexi out of frustration but the door swung out so by the time the hit landed it connected with a fan instead of the door. The fan was clearly being an ass and clearly pushed the door open so has to take some blame for puting himself in an unsafe position. Had he not pushed the door open nickerson would have hammered the plexi and been given a ban to reflect a minor issue same as Rosehill and Fitzy have had for their incidents leaving the ice. I feel for the guy coz off the ice he's a gentleman and I honestly don't think it was his intention. That's just my 2 cents though. Not sure what you mean when you say the "fan clearly pushed the door open". The rink side door was opened by person in yellow top who I guess was a rink official and the door to enter the area for the locker rooms was open by a lady from inside. I can't see any other door that the Guildford fan could have opened. Am I not seeing another door? Not having a go at you just maybe I am not seeing something. ( too many cañas )
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Post by xbar16 on Feb 2, 2018 19:07:22 GMT
The door which was opened for nickerson leaving the ice, was pushed from the other side by the mouthy fan. So technically the fan closed that door not opened it however u wanna look at it but he himself created the space in which nickersons arm went when he tried to clatter the plexi.
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