rossco
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
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Post by rossco on Aug 17, 2018 10:53:11 GMT
Is there really any harm in all this nonsense? The 'bigger picture' was advised yesterday in FFP, the details of players in the country or not who clearly are committed to the club will become clear when it matters. Imagine, as many wanted months ago, the identity of all players were known, what buzz would that be creating right now ? 😜
The club could maybe run a competition for the super sleuth fan who can identify the remaining 2 D men, the first of which should be fairly easy if you just hing about the front door of the rink.
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Post by flyer007 on Aug 17, 2018 11:03:27 GMT
The whole episode is mental. Nobody from outside the club can understand this madness. If a player is signed and the paperwork is done they should be released.
In addition as a British player I would be completely hacked off as they deserve an announcement as much as the next guy. It is meant to be a team and therefore, no differential should be made between a British or import signing. I’m sure Basaraba is totally baffled by the situation.
Also I’m totally annoyed at the unprofessional way we have managed the Moyer situation. The players we wish to retain should have a maximum 4-6 weeks after the season ends to make up their mind. After that time we should agree to go in different directions. Waiting until the end of July for Moyer to make up their mind is crazy. If it doesn’t work out as this hasn’t then we start behind the 8 ball.
The Flyers have such potential but need a complete shake up
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watcher
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
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Post by watcher on Aug 17, 2018 12:30:57 GMT
The whole episode is mental. Nobody from outside the club can understand this madness. If a player is signed and the paperwork is done they should be released. In addition as a British player I would be completely hacked off as they deserve an announcement as much as the next guy. It is meant to be a team and therefore, no differential should be made between a British or import signing. I’m sure Basaraba is totally baffled by the situation. Also I’m totally annoyed at the unprofessional way we have managed the Moyer situation. The players we wish to retain should have a maximum 4-6 weeks after the season ends to make up their mind. After that time we should agree to go in different directions. Waiting until the end of July for Moyer to make up their mind is crazy. If it doesn’t work out as this hasn’t then we start behind the 8 ball. The Flyers have such potential but need a complete shake up You are forgetting tho that this can be used as an excuse for delaying in signing another d man and saving a months wages.
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finchy
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
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Post by finchy on Aug 17, 2018 12:52:52 GMT
Is there really any harm in all this nonsense? The 'bigger picture' was advised yesterday in FFP, the details of players in the country or not who clearly are committed to the club will become clear when it matters. Imagine, as many wanted months ago, the identity of all players were known, what buzz would that be creating right now ? 😜 The club could maybe run a competition for the super sleuth fan who can identify the remaining 2 D men, the first of which should be fairly easy if you just hing about the front door of the rink. There is harm to the club when we're perceived as being shambolic on the PR front and give the impression that we're scrabbling about trying to sign half a squad with our first warm up game less than a week away. Every so often Todd promises to improve on this type of thing but every close season it's 'deja vu all over again'. We're building what looks like a cracking squad and the club is allowing this to be over-shadowed with fans worrying about whether we have a full team. Hutchy said on twitter that fans of Flyers and Storm should make sure they get involved with all these friendlies as the clubs have worked hard to secure them... but surely fans are now thinking they are of much less value? Why is it we're the only pro sports club that does this? That's the question. Why is everyone else wrong?
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Post by teamshaky on Aug 17, 2018 14:19:28 GMT
Todd and Hutchy are like parents hiding Xmas presents from the kids so they get a surprise and excited on Xmas morning, but it is there excitement watching them they do it for, the kids already know what they getting because they been searching in the cupboards and already found them lol
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rossco
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
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Post by rossco on Aug 17, 2018 15:29:41 GMT
Is there really any harm in all this nonsense? The 'bigger picture' was advised yesterday in FFP, the details of players in the country or not who clearly are committed to the club will become clear when it matters. Imagine, as many wanted months ago, the identity of all players were known, what buzz would that be creating right now ? 😜 The club could maybe run a competition for the super sleuth fan who can identify the remaining 2 D men, the first of which should be fairly easy if you just hing about the front door of the rink. There is harm to the club when we're perceived as being shambolic on the PR front and give the impression that we're scrabbling about trying to sign half a squad with our first warm up game less than a week away. Every so often Todd promises to improve on this type of thing but every close season it's 'deja vu all over again'. We're building what looks like a cracking squad and the club is allowing this to be over-shadowed with fans worrying about whether we have a full team. Hutchy said on twitter that fans of Flyers and Storm should make sure they get involved with all these friendlies as the clubs have worked hard to secure them... but surely fans are now thinking they are of much less value? Why is it we're the only pro sports club that does this? That's the question. Why is everyone else wrong? Your argument is based on a supposition that we don't have enough players signed to ice a team next Thursday. So do you truly believe that to be the case, anyone else out there believe this to be the case? Are the calibre of the "late" signings suggestions we are panicking and just picking up any old body to fill a jersey. Yes/No ? Fans not buying tickets for next Thursday or other preseason games because we only have 'half a team' or at most likely case 1 import short will be measured in small numbers. Prices are likely to damage crowds not an import being short or players being signed but not yet announced. I do get that we are totally unconventional with this stuff but whilst others follow a more normal model how does this stuff actually make a difference? The teams with the best PR in this league aren't all winners. I often wonder what the views of more casual observers of the Flyers think rather than what we see here from the die hards whether they are happy clappers or constructive critics. Anyways you'll be there next Thursday and the weekends won't you? 😄
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Post by tallflyer75 on Aug 17, 2018 15:44:21 GMT
There is harm to the club when we're perceived as being shambolic on the PR front and give the impression that we're scrabbling about trying to sign half a squad with our first warm up game less than a week away. Every so often Todd promises to improve on this type of thing but every close season it's 'deja vu all over again'. We're building what looks like a cracking squad and the club is allowing this to be over-shadowed with fans worrying about whether we have a full team. Hutchy said on twitter that fans of Flyers and Storm should make sure they get involved with all these friendlies as the clubs have worked hard to secure them... but surely fans are now thinking they are of much less value? Why is it we're the only pro sports club that does this? That's the question. Why is everyone else wrong? Your argument is based on a supposition that we don't have enough players signed to ice a team next Thursday. So do you truly believe that to be the case, anyone else out there believe this to be the case? Are the calibre of the "late" signings suggestions we are panicking and just picking up any old body to fill a jersey. Yes/No ? Fans not buying tickets for next Thursday or other preseason games because we only have 'half a team' or at most likely case 1 import short will be measured in small numbers. Prices are likely to damage crowds not an import being short or players being signed but not yet announced. I do get that we are totally unconventional with this stuff but whilst others follow a more normal model how does this stuff actually make a difference? The teams with the best PR in this league aren't all winners. I often wonder what the views of more casual observers of the Flyers think rather than what we see here from the die hards whether they are happy clappers or constructive critics. Anyways you'll be there next Thursday and the weekends won't you? 😄
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nm1
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Post by nm1 on Aug 17, 2018 15:47:01 GMT
There is harm to the club when we're perceived as being shambolic on the PR front and give the impression that we're scrabbling about trying to sign half a squad with our first warm up game less than a week away. Every so often Todd promises to improve on this type of thing but every close season it's 'deja vu all over again'. We're building what looks like a cracking squad and the club is allowing this to be over-shadowed with fans worrying about whether we have a full team. Hutchy said on twitter that fans of Flyers and Storm should make sure they get involved with all these friendlies as the clubs have worked hard to secure them... but surely fans are now thinking they are of much less value? Why is it we're the only pro sports club that does this? That's the question. Why is everyone else wrong? Your argument is based on a supposition that we don't have enough players signed to ice a team next Thursday. So do you truly believe that to be the case, anyone else out there believe this to be the case? Are the calibre of the "late" signings suggestions we are panicking and just picking up any old body to fill a jersey. Yes/No ? Fans not buying tickets for next Thursday or other preseason games because we only have 'half a team' or at most likely case 1 import short will be measured in small numbers. Prices are likely to damage crowds not an import being short or players being signed but not yet announced. I do get that we are totally unconventional with this stuff but whilst others follow a more normal model how does this stuff actually make a difference? The teams with the best PR in this league aren't all winners. I often wonder what the views of more casual observers of the Flyers think rather than what we see here from the die hards whether they are happy clappers or constructive critics. Anyways you'll be there next Thursday and the weekends won't you? 😄 Rossco - take a chill pill Flyers PR is terrible, don't think anyone would deny it. Probably worst in the league. Some are annoyed, some take the Mick, no need to get all worked up 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by tallflyer75 on Aug 17, 2018 15:50:29 GMT
Your argument is based on a supposition that we don't have enough players signed to ice a team next Thursday. So do you truly believe that to be the case, anyone else out there believe this to be the case? Are the calibre of the "late" signings suggestions we are panicking and just picking up any old body to fill a jersey. Yes/No ? Fans not buying tickets for next Thursday or other preseason games because we only have 'half a team' or at most likely case 1 import short will be measured in small numbers. Prices are likely to damage crowds not an import being short or players being signed but not yet announced. I do get that we are totally unconventional with this stuff but whilst others follow a more normal model how does this stuff actually make a difference? The teams with the best PR in this league aren't all winners. I often wonder what the views of more casual observers of the Flyers think rather than what we see here from the die hards whether they are happy clappers or constructive critics. Anyways you'll be there next Thursday and the weekends won't you? 😄 Unconventional is one way of looking at it😂 I am pretty sure 90% of the team are signed up but why keep you fans or customers depending on how you look at it in the dark? Will that grow the fanbase so therefore improve revenue streams ? No will it persuade potential sponsors to come on board? Probably not. It causes anger every year and each year it gets worse. Haven't bought a season ticket for 3 years purely based on this approach and go to less games now, well done Mr muir
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rossco
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
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Post by rossco on Aug 17, 2018 15:52:47 GMT
Your argument is based on a supposition that we don't have enough players signed to ice a team next Thursday. So do you truly believe that to be the case, anyone else out there believe this to be the case? Are the calibre of the "late" signings suggestions we are panicking and just picking up any old body to fill a jersey. Yes/No ? Fans not buying tickets for next Thursday or other preseason games because we only have 'half a team' or at most likely case 1 import short will be measured in small numbers. Prices are likely to damage crowds not an import being short or players being signed but not yet announced. I do get that we are totally unconventional with this stuff but whilst others follow a more normal model how does this stuff actually make a difference? The teams with the best PR in this league aren't all winners. I often wonder what the views of more casual observers of the Flyers think rather than what we see here from the die hards whether they are happy clappers or constructive critics. Anyways you'll be there next Thursday and the weekends won't you? 😄 Rossco - take a chill pill Flyers PR is terrible, don't think anyone would deny it. Probably worst in the league. Some are annoyed, some take the Mick, no need to get all worked up 🤣🤣🤣 Very chilled dude. Afternoon cutting logs and plenty of fresh air but Finchy would have expected a response. No one should ever get worked up in a forum.
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Post by xroads90 on Aug 17, 2018 16:37:58 GMT
Gagnon on Twitter has said he never received an offer from Fife.
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Post by zamboni on Aug 17, 2018 17:00:29 GMT
Gagnon on Twitter has said he never received an offer from Fife. Don't think ownership and some of the coaches see the value in this type of Player and as many have said the games against Clan will end up a circus like some of Steelers Panthers games last season. It was never going to happen, Fans want it but I think like last year the Club has recruited very well we have Grit speed skill and excellent goal tending, and possibly money spent on upgrading Brits. As much as I was a fan of Big Matt he did spend a lot of games on sidelines and time dealing with suspensions and costs associated with. Also many of the Braehead Clan fans blamed Frank and Fitzy for not winning the league that season due to their antics, they have not learned from that and are basically giving Clan fans what they missed last year Will it win them anything this season ching ching of cash register now more important than winning games or trophy's in West
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Post by flyer1990 on Aug 17, 2018 17:11:46 GMT
Gagnon would have been a good signing but with Bulmer and Pinkston on board along with Goats we have some toughness there.
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Post by swarfiga on Aug 17, 2018 17:36:42 GMT
Gagnon on Twitter has said he never received an offer from Fife. Don't think ownership and some of the coaches see the value in this type of Player and as many have said the games against Clan will end up a circus like some of Steelers Panthers games last season. It was never going to happen, Fans want it but I think like last year the Club has recruited very well we have Grit speed skill and excellent goal tending, and possibly money spent on upgrading Brits. As much as I was a fan of Big Matt he did spend a lot of games on sidelines and time dealing with suspensions and costs associated with. Also many of the Braehead Clan fans blamed Frank and Fitzy for not winning the league that season due to their antics, they have not learned from that and are basically giving Clan fans what they missed last year Will it win them anything this season ching ching of cash register now more important than winning games or trophy's in West Gagnon is nothing like any you’ve just mentioned though, he plays the game until he has to go, he doesn’t get involved in the circus show
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Post by stewartgibson on Aug 17, 2018 18:00:03 GMT
An ex caps player as the last defenceman possibly? Jacob Johnston?
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