superpatsy
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: Detroit Red Wings
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Post by superpatsy on Sept 10, 2021 20:37:39 GMT
James ******* Isaacs. The only man that seems to have the same job security as Todd. The least he could do is come back in shape and not the size of a rhino. Unless we've got a couple of power forwards capable of sticking up for themselves and the team, I can't see this season going well. Tried to be optimistic but even I'm struggling now... Sorry, but having worked with this guy...you want him on your team! James Isaacs is the most under - rated player fans and teams seem to give credit too. this guy never misses a game, puts his body on the line and gives a sh*t about the team he plays with! He will give you 110% every bloody night, but here you all are slating him before the puck is dropped. Normally I'd sit and laugh at some of the comments that are posted on social media, but a guy like James Isaacs deserves a bit more respect from the fans at a club he cares about and works his bollocks off for! Well done Jimmy on picking up a spot at fife. I wish you every success, because you deserve it for what you do for the club, team mates and fans a like! Great to see you back in the UK. We obviously have different expectations of the club. I want the club to be better and I don't think he is the answer. He's also faaar from the most underrated player and you've also described, what I would say, is the bare-minimum of what to expect from a hockey player. And 'before the puck is dropped' doesn't really count if this is his fifth season with the club.
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Post by stewartgibson on Sept 10, 2021 20:42:57 GMT
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Post by The Horse™ on Sept 10, 2021 20:51:57 GMT
Sorry, but having worked with this guy...you want him on your team! James Isaacs is the most under - rated player fans and teams seem to give credit too. this guy never misses a game, puts his body on the line and gives a sh*t about the team he plays with! He will give you 110% every bloody night, but here you all are slating him before the puck is dropped. Normally I'd sit and laugh at some of the comments that are posted on social media, but a guy like James Isaacs deserves a bit more respect from the fans at a club he cares about and works his bollocks off for! Well done Jimmy on picking up a spot at fife. I wish you every success, because you deserve it for what you do for the club, team mates and fans a like! Great to see you back in the UK. We obviously have different expectations of the club. I want the club to be better and I don't think he is the answer. He's also faaar from the most underrated player and you've also described, what I would say, is the bare-minimum of what to expect from a hockey player. And 'before the puck is dropped' doesn't really count if this is his fifth season with the club. You obviously have no clue what actual players bring to a team or room..... Regardless if or not it's his 5th season...others know what he brings and what he can contribute! That's why they have brought him back!
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superpatsy
Rookie
Posts: 310
EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: Detroit Red Wings
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Post by superpatsy on Sept 10, 2021 21:00:54 GMT
We obviously have different expectations of the club. I want the club to be better and I don't think he is the answer. He's also faaar from the most underrated player and you've also described, what I would say, is the bare-minimum of what to expect from a hockey player. And 'before the puck is dropped' doesn't really count if this is his fifth season with the club. You obviously have no clue what actual players bring to a team or room..... Regardless if or not it's his 5th season...others know what he brings and what he can contribute! That's why they have brought him back! I've represented Scotland and played national level in a couple of sports so I totally understand what a player can and can't bring to a team. I still think we can do better. It just seems like a lazy signing to me - if he's going to be run as a spare, then fair enough but let's be honest, the owners splashing the cash on a luxury like that...
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Post by waterboy on Sept 10, 2021 21:31:45 GMT
We obviously have different expectations of the club. I want the club to be better and I don't think he is the answer. He's also faaar from the most underrated player and you've also described, what I would say, is the bare-minimum of what to expect from a hockey player. And 'before the puck is dropped' doesn't really count if this is his fifth season with the club. You obviously have no clue what actual players bring to a team or room..... Regardless if or not it's his 5th season...others know what he brings and what he can contribute! That's why they have brought him back! How many other EIHL clubs at this stage in his career would sign him?
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Post by rhino on Sept 10, 2021 21:45:39 GMT
You obviously have no clue what actual players bring to a team or room..... Regardless if or not it's his 5th season...others know what he brings and what he can contribute! That's why they have brought him back! How many other EIHL clubs at this stage in his career would sign him? Actually had a few offers - this league and others. And plenty last off season too. Some teams like a stay at home d man that’s easy to play with. Thanks for your support though. Can’t wait to see you at the team events asking for autographs etc. while slating us behind our backs. Whoever you are, if you have an issue with my game - come and talk to me. We’ll cut some video. You “fans” don’t get it. There’s lots of good players that don’t come back BECAUSE of this c*** they get day in day out. Especially anyone with a family. It’s hard for their wives and kids to read and hear about. Love, Rhino
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Post by flyer007 on Sept 10, 2021 22:35:00 GMT
How many other EIHL clubs at this stage in his career would sign him? Actually had a few offers - this league and others. And plenty last off season too. Some teams like a stay at home d man that’s easy to play with. Thanks for your support though. Can’t wait to see you at the team events asking for autographs etc. while slating us behind our backs. Whoever you are, if you have an issue with my game - come and talk to me. We’ll cut some video. You “fans” don’t get it. There’s lots of good players that don’t come back BECAUSE of this c*** they get day in day out. Especially anyone with a family. It’s hard for their wives and kids to read and hear about. Love, Rhino You shouldn’t need to come on here to defend yourself or your career. You have made a career out of hockey which is a great deal more than anyone on this forum. However, part of being a professional sports person at any level is that everyone has an opinion on your career. Be that coaches, players, fans, media etc. What you should expect from the fanbase is support for you and the team on game night and the fanbase should always be respectful. The fans are however, entitled to an opinion and in Fife much of the disgruntlement and apathy comes not from personnel signings but the way in which the club is presenting itself. Fife is a unique place for Hockey for many of the fans life for 8 months of the year revolves around the Flyers. It is not a wealthy area and many fans spend their hard earned money travelling across the length of the country supporting the team. A team that last season finished 10th and lost in double digits at home. A club that seems to accept mediocrity. A club whose fans are passionate about and love. It has been said about professional team sport that players only rent the jersey it is the fans who are the lifeblood of the club as they were there before the players came and will be long after they leave. As a player all you can hope to achieve is to leave positive memories and make some history that will be everlasting during your time in the jersey. You have made a positive impact on the team and many of the fans are happy that you are still part of the team moving forward. They are others who think differently and they are entitled to an opinion. Hopefully you and any other players who is criticised use it as fuel to prove people wrong. I am personally very disappointed when fans judge a player they have never seen play and I really cannot get behind anyone who does that. As I mentioned above I believe the apathy is not directed at the players themselves but more in the way the club treats its fans. We hear time and time again but how well the club treats the players who come here but what about the fans. This year is huge it’s been 18 months without hockey and the club should be doing everything it can to promote itself so the barn is full come the start of the season. To do that it needs to engage with Fans. Dundee now have arguably the best social media presence and engage with Fans brilliantly. Almost every player that signs has an interview uploaded with them so the fans get to know the person before they see them on the ice. Their completed team has also been announced two weeks before the first game. Fife from a management perspective need to bridge the gap between the Fans and the Club because they should be one. The club cannot survive without the Fans and the fans will not have a club to support without owners and directors All of us hope this year is a success and I hope more than anything the fanbase and the team can improve their bond because Hockey is Back and we both need each other if we are going to be successful!
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Post by waterboy on Sept 10, 2021 23:13:03 GMT
How many other EIHL clubs at this stage in his career would sign him? Actually had a few offers - this league and others. And plenty last off season too. Some teams like a stay at home d man that’s easy to play with. Thanks for your support though. Can’t wait to see you at the team events asking for autographs etc. while slating us behind our backs. Whoever you are, if you have an issue with my game - come and talk to me. We’ll cut some video. You “fans” don’t get it. There’s lots of good players that don’t come back BECAUSE of this c*** they get day in day out. Especially anyone with a family. It’s hard for their wives and kids to read and hear about. Love, Rhino How’s Italy looking?
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Post by waterboy on Sept 11, 2021 7:34:56 GMT
How many other EIHL clubs at this stage in his career would sign him? Actually had a few offers - this league and others. And plenty last off season too. Some teams like a stay at home d man that’s easy to play with. Thanks for your support though. Can’t wait to see you at the team events asking for autographs etc. while slating us behind our backs. Whoever you are, if you have an issue with my game - come and talk to me. We’ll cut some video. You “fans” don’t get it. There’s lots of good players that don’t come back BECAUSE of this c*** they get day in day out. Especially anyone with a family. It’s hard for their wives and kids to read and hear about. Love, Rhino Thought I would take time before properly replying. Professional sports people face praise and criticism all the time. It comes with the job. Whether I like your game or not I would say it’s fair to have an opinion on you as a player. What it should never be is personal in any way shape or form. I played the game myself for well over 20 years and listened to criticism and a few opinions that would make your toes curl. I never once offered a “fan” the chance to chat outside the game. As a player you work your nuts off for the team you play for don’t think anybody has ever said anything different. As a skill guy yeah not so much. Cement hands comes to mind. Since you watch NHL ever had a pop at a player yourself ever slated a play that’s made. For that matter ever do it during a game to get under a players skin? If asking if you would receive offers from other EIHL team’s garners a reaction like your above post then I would suggest you might want to stop reading a fan’s forum. Don’t worry about the autograph I stopped asking for them around ten years old.
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Post by gscoles65 on Sept 11, 2021 9:39:55 GMT
I don’t understand, we read on here all the time that if our superstars aren’t prepared to put in a shift bench them and play the brits, so why is a player that gives 100% being criticised. Surely all team members matter allowing our (stars) to get a break so they don’t get burnt out half way through the season.
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Post by waterboy on Sept 11, 2021 10:47:35 GMT
I don’t understand, we read on here all the time that if our superstars aren’t prepared to put in a shift bench them and play the brits, so why is a player that gives 100% being criticised. Surely all team members matter allowing our (stars) to get a break so they don’t get burnt out half way through the season. I think some views are that bringing in an import means he should be better than any british players. Being a hard working player is possibly the most basic requirement to play hockey. We have guys like Bari who fill the hardworking player role. I for one expect our imports to be difference makers (maybe thats being brought up in the heineken era when they really were your best players). Folk talk about Issacs being an easy cheap/lazy signing, thats on here THF social media etc. for me they mean that because he lives here the coaches obviously like him and they assume he wont be taking up a huge chunk of the budget. no housing costs etc. Bringing over a guy like Greg Chase costs more when you factor in flights visa housing cars equipment etc etc. So having a guy who is already here and you know = cheap signing. Look at the panthers most recent signing Robert Baillargeon not met with great fanfair and some fans saying its a wait and see signing. Guy scored 28 goals and 47 points in 50 games for MK back in 18/19. I think for most fans a hard working guy can be a local player not an import slot. Maybe thats unfair on Issacs but I do get the opinion and its one I tend to agree with.
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Post by gscoles65 on Sept 11, 2021 11:18:43 GMT
Thanks for explaining that to me. In your opinion why can’t Fife attract top end players?
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Post by stewartgibson on Sept 11, 2021 11:35:44 GMT
Matt Carter done deal.
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Post by justafan on Sept 11, 2021 11:36:17 GMT
Three comments about james Isaacs. 1 he doesn’t live here now and will therefore like all imports be in a Flyers flat 2 cement hands- he’s currently in Italy playing for Team Canada in the roller hockey world championships (he has previously won this with Canada). You can’t have cement hands and play roller hockey at that level 3 he had, I think, the best +/- of all of our defenders in the last season that was played.
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Post by frasar101 on Sept 11, 2021 13:17:32 GMT
Three comments about james Isaacs. 1 he doesn’t live here now and will therefore like all imports be in a Flyers flat 2 cement hands- he’s currently in Italy playing for Team Canada in the roller hockey world championships (he has previously won this with Canada). You can’t have cement hands and play roller hockey at that level 3 he had, I think, the best +/- of all of our defenders in the last season that was played. Isaacs was one of 3 Flyers players to have a +/- of 0 or above, with Tim Crowder on 0 and Gutwald on 2. In my opinion, Isaacs was our best D man last year by far defensively, and I really do not understand a lot of the outrage and dissatisfaction about him being deigned. Gutwald and Jonas might have put up a few more points, but we conceded a fair number of goals last season from those 2 and Quaile trying to pinch and keep the puck in the Offensive zone and failing, giving up easy breakaways. He might not often win you a game, but like Shane Owen, he’ll certainly give the forwards every chance to win most games, which I personally much prefer rather than having a point scoring D man that really struggles on the back end.
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