Dundee Doubler

[ckbell63]

They are not for turning though ironjaw. A bit like Maggie Thatcher and Craig Levein. It is a shame as they have got us some real quality guys but we need 1 or 2 others to spark life into our second and third line. Surely they could gamble for 2 months? I think we know the answer. If we finish bottom in our 75th season despite having some quality guys who do the management blame? Anyone can see what is needed.

[Deleted]

The buck stops at Todd surely ?

[Ironjaw]

They're just going to make it worse for themselves in the long run, keep short changing the fans and the numbers will drop and lose all your best players at the end of each season and you have the hassle of trying to replace them with quality coming to a bottom placed team. Everyone in the league seems to be improving over the last month and fife seem to be fading.

[dan27]

Fading? Pretty sure we just had a decent run of results and have played every game understrength!!
I'm 100% certain we would have taken points from both games this past weekend with a better ref and a full squad.

[Ironjaw]

Danny Stewart said it himself, the Braehead results had been coming, poor in away to Dundee and poor in Edinburgh when they could have put both teams away, understrength because they choose to be, the only team in the league to have 10 imports one of them being a 40 year old who simply doesn't have it anymore, 1 injury and its a struggle. They're 1 or 2 signings away from not only competing but from being near that top 5 but being that 2 men short could mean finishing bottom. For the fans we get they can without a doubt afford to go with the full quota and have a real go at it.

[Deleted]

You have just answered your own point Dan...... understrenght

[Deleted]

Dan, you sound like a player, blaming the ref

[ronniemac]

No doubt having a coach that underestimated the league doesn't help but to go another season down the same road ...........c'mon. Flyers were very lucky to get the new imports they have done this year....no failures or weak links there but they are not Supermen and the Cavalry ain't coming BUT the crowds ARE still coming, the team are still battling the odds and lifting the profile........ what do you have to do just to get a level playing field. There is one slight change. there are less backslappers now or they have given up on this forum.
I think i will give it to the rest of the season and if nothing changes i will pick my games for the following season, maybe no great loss but i don't think i will be alone somehow.

[dan27]

Understrength due to injuries and bans - not because we went with just ten imports!!
Todd - Don't agree. Yes he's not the player he was or is he up there with our best. Yes I think he should be getting one or two more goals but the same could be said for the other two linemates.
And finally if you review Saturday's game and penalties. I think after Cowan's chat with Finnerty during period 1 and start of period 2, Flyers never had another powerplay. The direct result of the Steelers goal that wasn't was 2 Flyers going into the box.
Anyway I don't know why I'm getting so excited! Maybe just the continual knocking of things - Don't go if you don't like it!!!

[silkypaws]

Think we'll get 2 points out of it but Dundee will get three. We seem to do that too often - when we win, we still like to make the other team feel better by letting them take a point to themselves.

[SectionE]

I think we will get the six from our Tayside neighbours... Confident much? ;D

[boabytheduck]

Going for a flyers win in both games. We need to get back to winning ways & next 4 games in our conference are really important now!!!

[ferryflyer]

Severe lack of faith being shown here, remember it is only a game , not happy go and sponsor another few imports , we are always telling business people how to run there business , if we don't like what we are seeing then don't do just stop the griping

[ronniemac]

Dan & Ferryflyer, You pair deserve each other, why can't you complain about being short changed and still go to games, my family have went to KIA for over 30 years and last year did sponsor the team but due to the lack of respect shown it won't happen again and i can say that on behalf of at least 2 other groups over the same period.
I would also add that you guys have a go at sponsoring the team to a reasonable tune and see how your experience goes, quite honestly its a shambles down there and we keep going because we are hockey fans, the reality is the public / team are being held back but not for the lack of money.

[daviejojo]

We are taking injuries because we are understrength, it's the same as last year, the less players, the more they spend on the ice, the more they get tired, and then hurt.

We look shattered quite often by the end of the Saturday game, and we still have the bus journey and Sunday to go.

People are starting to vote with their feet too, crowd of 1,200 on Saturday for a Sheffield game, and only 3 of us at Cardiff! Crowds were pushing 2,000 mid season, and there were 15 - 20 at Cardiff in November.

People are fed up being short changed. This isn't a pop at the playing staff, they do their best, it's how they are treated by the management, and by that I mean, the owners.

Fans are taken for granted, and if the crowds drop, it will be the fans "lack of support" that will be blamed for not bring a new guy in.

In reality, get 11 imports from day 1, a couple of good solid brits, and that rink would be packed, it such a simple piece of logic, it defies belief they can't see it.