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Post by Goalie on Jan 31, 2013 8:06:37 GMT
I would say Haines the two pitton brothers Keller and caisty along with Danny as player coach would cost what dundees whole import quota costs, class doesn't come cheap, and I recon dundees sponsorship is much higher than fifes also, they are a couple years ahead of us on that front so its common sense that tells me that more than anything. As frustrating as it is, we have to build steadily to make sure we have SOLID foundations, I think we will see the quota reduced to 10 again very soon, and fife have shown they can easily employ 10 imports, so when it happens, there is NO excuse for not having the full quota
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Post by sparkymark75 on Jan 31, 2013 8:17:02 GMT
If it drops down to 10, we will go with 9. It's one of those things in life that just is, like paying tax.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Jan 31, 2013 8:22:04 GMT
agree there goalie
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Post by Dirkster23 on Jan 31, 2013 10:15:29 GMT
I would say Haines the two pitton brothers Keller and caisty along with Danny as player coach would cost what dundees whole import quota costs, class doesn't come cheap, and I recon dundees sponsorship is much higher than fifes also, they are a couple years ahead of us on that front so its common sense that tells me that more than anything. As frustrating as it is, we have to build steadily to make sure we have SOLID foundations, I think we will see the quota reduced to 10 again very soon, and fife have shown they can easily employ 10 imports, so when it happens, there is NO excuse for not having the full quota Here's a quick comparison of the guys you mention Bryan Pitton- AHL 17 games, ECHL 137 games. This season 40 games, GAA 2.86, S% .906 Nicola Riopel- AHL 21 games, ECHL 63 games. This season 39 games, GAA 3.22, S% .917 Derek Keller- ECHL 93 games (34 points). This season 40 games (30 points) Pat Bowen- ECHL 113 games (33 points). This season 36 games (23 points) Jeff Caister- ECHL 127 games (47 points). This season 39 games (23 points) Doug Krantz- ECHL 130 games (33 points), CHL 59 games (22 points). This season 24 games (10 points) Jason Pitton- AHL 187 games (38 points), ECHL 102 games (67 points). This season 35 games (39 points) Sami Ryhanan- SM-Liiga 165 games (100 points), Allsvenska 100 games (71 points). This season 38 games (66 points) Casey Haines- AHL 3 games (0 points), ECHL 118 games (68 points). This season 31 games (47 points) Mike Wirll- ECHL 272 games (248 points), CHL 23 games (20 points). This season 39 games (57 points) Danny Stewart- UHL 207 games (81 points), EIHL 350 games (241 points). This season 31 games (14 points) Jeff Hutchins- AHL 53 games (7 points), ECHL 156 games (111 points), EIHL 353 games (368 points). This season 32 games (13 points) Stats alone obviously don't give you the full picture, but I'd say the quality of the guys listed is pretty much the same. I'm not sure why we would end up paying considerably more for guys that on the face of it have similar pedigree. If we have, you really need to ask why.
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Post by daviejojo on Jan 31, 2013 10:21:46 GMT
Good stuff there, and very little in it. Probably I'd say 3-3 in terms of who has the better. For us, you'd probably go with Pitton, Keller and Caister, with Stars taking Sami, Wirll and Hutchins. As you say of course, points aren't everything, but what is interesting reading, is Stars win with Offence, we win on D. Now if you break down our season, we are pretty solid at the back this year, but struggle offensively, despite having much better players than last season.
As you say though, you'd be surprised, looking at that, if the wages didn't match up pretty much pound for pound across the 6 guys on each team.
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Post by spudeeelad on Jan 31, 2013 10:52:39 GMT
Maybe our owners are colour blind and have been flashing the wrong coloured light ;-) it is weird how Dundee manage 12 with 800 fans. Why? We used to manage 11 with not much more fans, considerably higher ice time costs and we were a comfortable 6th placed team, like Braehead.
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Post by sparkymark75 on Jan 31, 2013 12:56:53 GMT
The reason being the associated costs. Dundee put 3 guys in the same apartment. We house an import in an apartment with his wife/girlfriend.
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Post by Kev on Jan 31, 2013 13:49:08 GMT
The reason being the associated costs. Dundee put 3 guys in the same apartment. We house an import in an apartment with his wife/girlfriend. Thats not true. Infact Keller and Caister share, Carriveau and Hogg share. J Pitton and Chaumont share. I dont know about Haines, B Pitton and Stewart but it wouldnt surprise me if Pitton was in with his brother and Stewart and Haines shared.
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Post by zico on Jan 31, 2013 13:56:32 GMT
The reason being the associated costs. Dundee put 3 guys in the same apartment. We house an import in an apartment with his wife/girlfriend. Thats not true. Infact Keller and Caister share, Carriveau and Hogg share. J Pitton and Chaumont share. I dont know about Haines, B Pitton and Stewart but it wouldnt surprise me if Pitton was in with his brother and Stewart and Haines shared. I thought I read somewhere Jason did share with Bryan untill Bryan's missus came over, Jason then moved into a new place which he now shares with Bobby.
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Post by sparkymark75 on Jan 31, 2013 14:51:08 GMT
The reason being the associated costs. Dundee put 3 guys in the same apartment. We house an import in an apartment with his wife/girlfriend. Thats not true. Infact Keller and Caister share, Carriveau and Hogg share. J Pitton and Chaumont share. I dont know about Haines, B Pitton and Stewart but it wouldnt surprise me if Pitton was in with his brother and Stewart and Haines shared. Where do you think their other halves live? In a tent in the garden ;D
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Post by sparkymark75 on Jan 31, 2013 14:51:32 GMT
Thats not true. Infact Keller and Caister share, Carriveau and Hogg share. J Pitton and Chaumont share. I dont know about Haines, B Pitton and Stewart but it wouldnt surprise me if Pitton was in with his brother and Stewart and Haines shared. I thought I read somewhere Jason did share with Bryan untill Bryan's missus came over, Jason then moved into a new place which he now shares with Bobby. You did, in an interview he gave to PowerPlay mag.
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Post by Kev on Jan 31, 2013 15:07:43 GMT
Thats not true. Infact Keller and Caister share, Carriveau and Hogg share. J Pitton and Chaumont share. I dont know about Haines, B Pitton and Stewart but it wouldnt surprise me if Pitton was in with his brother and Stewart and Haines shared. Where do you think their other halves live? In a tent in the garden ;D But they still share flats with more than 1 player. It isn't 1 player to 1 flat in most cases.
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Post by jaf541 on Jan 31, 2013 16:43:22 GMT
I thought this thread was about having suipposedly signed Jade albraith, now its about who holds hands with who, so it looks like we have not signed Galbraith then ?
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Post by jonathan on Jan 31, 2013 16:49:45 GMT
I thought this thread was about having suipposedly signed Jade albraith, now its about who holds hands with who, so it looks like we have not signed Galbraith then ? we'll be signing no one.
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Post by ronniemac on Jan 31, 2013 16:51:21 GMT
For Galbraith read Flyers fans swallow hook line and sinker and its not even April.
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