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Post by nobabody on Feb 18, 2013 13:20:37 GMT
with the league sitting incredibly tight at our end, all 4 Scottish teams on 38pts, i thought i'd have a look at the games against the Erhardt boys. Firstly to see if we have done as well as i thought we had and secondly to see the amount of games everyone still had to play against them. Although teams have games in hand of each other, how valuable are they if they are against Erhardt teams? well on paper at least. heres the story so far... TEAM | GP | W | L | OTL | SOL | GF | GA | PTS | Flyers | 18 | 5 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 41 | 71 | 10 | Caps | 16 | 4 | 11 | 1 | 0 | 27 | 66 | 9 | Stars | 16 | 2 | 9 | 2 | 3 | 33 | 70 | 9 | Clan | 17 | 3 | 12 | 2 | 0 | 48 | 82 | 8 | Hull | 16 | 2 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 30 | 62 | 6 | |
so now... Edinburgh have 4 of 8 games left against Erhardt teams. Fife have 2 of 9 games left against Erhardt teams. Dundee have 4 of 12 against Erhardt teams. Braehead have 3 of 10 against Erhardt teams. Hull have 4 of 10 against Erhardt teams. still all to play for then
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Post by sparkymark75 on Feb 18, 2013 14:15:07 GMT
Good to see someone enjoy looking at stats as I do ;D
I think both of our remaining Erhardt games are at home.
Dundee, Edinburgh and Hull all have 1 away game with the rest being at home.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Feb 18, 2013 14:37:35 GMT
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 18, 2013 15:38:40 GMT
Its a tough ask still, primarily I think because of our away form. However, if we win our home games, with Coventry being your "bonus" 2 pts, we have a shout.
If we said at the start of the year, you had 4 away games, Edinburgh, Braehead, Hull and Dundee, and if you can pick up even 3 points you'll make the play off's, most people would have taken that.
I reckon we need 4 home wins, and 2 on the road, so 48 points to get top 8. On paper, when you look at the games left, you could argue we have one of the best potential run in's to come, but our away form has been so bad, you just hope, with Turnbull on board, we can sneak a few points somewhere.
For what it's worth, I'm still sticking to my gut feel from back in December, and I'm going for Edinburgh to win the Gardiner, and Fife and Hull to just fall a little short coming 9th and 10th respectively.
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Post by jonathan on Feb 18, 2013 17:02:10 GMT
Its a tough ask still, primarily I think because of our away form. However, if we win our home games, with Coventry being your "bonus" 2 pts, we have a shout. If we said at the start of the year, you had 4 away games, Edinburgh, Braehead, Hull and Dundee, and if you can pick up even 3 points you'll make the play off's, most people would have taken that. I reckon we need 4 home wins, and 2 on the road, so 48 points to get top 8. On paper, when you look at the games left, you could argue we have one of the best potential run in's to come, but our away form has been so bad, you just hope, with Turnbull on board, we can sneak a few points somewhere. For what it's worth, I'm still sticking to my gut feel from back in December, and I'm going for Edinburgh to win the Gardiner, and Fife and Hull to just fall a little short coming 9th and 10th respectively. The big problem for Edinburgh is that they only have 4 conference games left to play. I don't think that'll be enough, especially as one of them is away to us.
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 18, 2013 17:54:47 GMT
Its going to the wire, which i guess is good for the league :-)
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Post by dag101 on Feb 18, 2013 23:50:34 GMT
I dont normally post on here but I do enjoy reading the forum and the usually knowlegable comments made by people who genuinely care about their club.There are though a lot of negative posts which can be repetitive and wearing although this is obviously part and parcel of a forum. However a post tonight has completely hacked me off to such an extent that I actually feel moved to post!
I refer to the post a couple up which consigns us to a 9th or 10th place finish this season. Also apparently Edinburgh are going to win the conference despite the fact they are only 1 point ahead of us but have played 3 games more. Well i'm sorry sir but i sometimes wonder if you are actually a Flyers fan.
You have banged on again and again and again ....zzzzzzzzzz about an 11th import. We have read your extensive and if i may be so bold your utterley repetetive posts regarding the terribly poor running of the club. We have had this week after week after month. While some of your opinions may have merit i don't agree with most of them. I don't know if you see yourself as some sort of spokesperson for the masses but you do not speak for me. I for one am delighted to have Elite League ice hockey back in Kirkcaldy. I have thoroughly enjoyed going to the rink and watching the calibre of players that have been brought over by Todd and Danny. Yes there is always room for improvement but if the Flyers continue to improve year on year then the majority of fans will be happy particularly considering we are effectively a 2nd year club. I read a post from you a few weeks ago stating that in your opinion Flyers fans are mugs for going to Dundee. Well sir i take exception to that remark as i am no mug. I am a Flyers fan who wants to support his team whether it be at Kirkcaldy Dundee or Edinburgh. If Dundee are able to fund an import on the back of my £15 then that is not my concern. Watching Dancing on ice or the x-factor on tv or supporting the Flyers - a no brainer to be honest.
A big shout out to Mr Muir and Mr Wishart from bringing Elite League hockey back. Both are ridiculed in many quarters which i've always felt is completely unwarranted. No doubt they make some money but as far as i'm aware thats allowed in business and quite frankly i don't see any consortiums or multi millionares breaking the door down to take over.
Well we now have the fabled 11th import you've been banging on about forever in a day. The conference couldn't be tighter and we are extremely well placed. The addition of Podge and the return of Bryan between the pipes at the weekend gives us great impetus for the run in. I look at the other Teams around us and see nothing to fear. For me its not Edinburgh for the conference or Braehead who according to most are so much better than the rest of the Conference and the automatic winner. All i see is - Club in disarray due to gross mismanagement.
For me its Flyers for the Conference. As you call yourself a Flyers fan sir all i can say is shame on you !
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Post by flyer007 on Feb 19, 2013 0:34:06 GMT
Good post Dag I agree I don't see Edinburgh winning the conference however, I must applaud coach Hartmann and Scott Neil for bringing in Leinweber and Patry who have turned that team from the basement bottom club they should be on their attendance to a well balanced team who are excellent at home and have won away to 3 of the Erhardt Conference teams. I think they will just miss the playoffs but I believe they are a better team now than Dundee.
I think it will be tight between ourselves and Braehead for the conference all we can say is that it is in our own hands. I think we need to start picking points up on the road but hopefully the guys can bear down and squeak out a few results and go on a run coming into playoffs in true flyers style.
I can't wait to see Podge play on Saturday and Im looking forward to the run in. I just hope we can do it for Dutes in what I hope is his last season as a player the guy deserves a whole heap of respect for coming out this year and playing his heart out. Winning the conference for him would be a fitting end to his playing career.
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Post by nobabody on Feb 19, 2013 7:44:20 GMT
Good to see someone enjoy looking at stats as I do ;D I think both of our remaining Erhardt games are at home. Dundee, Edinburgh and Hull all have 1 away game with the rest being at home. well if you like stats....we are also the only team with four players in the EIHL top 20 scorers
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 19, 2013 10:44:09 GMT
I dont normally post on here but I do enjoy reading the forum and the usually knowlegable comments made by people who genuinely care about their club.There are though a lot of negative posts which can be repetitive and wearing although this is obviously part and parcel of a forum. However a post tonight has completely hacked me off to such an extent that I actually feel moved to post! I refer to the post a couple up which consigns us to a 9th or 10th place finish this season. Also apparently Edinburgh are going to win the conference despite the fact they are only 1 point ahead of us but have played 3 games more. Well i'm sorry sir but i sometimes wonder if you are actually a Flyers fan. You have banged on again and again and again ....zzzzzzzzzz about an 11th import. We have read your extensive and if i may be so bold your utterley repetetive posts regarding the terribly poor running of the club. We have had this week after week after month. While some of your opinions may have merit i don't agree with most of them. I don't know if you see yourself as some sort of spokesperson for the masses but you do not speak for me. I for one am delighted to have Elite League ice hockey back in Kirkcaldy. I have thoroughly enjoyed going to the rink and watching the calibre of players that have been brought over by Todd and Danny. Yes there is always room for improvement but if the Flyers continue to improve year on year then the majority of fans will be happy particularly considering we are effectively a 2nd year club. I read a post from you a few weeks ago stating that in your opinion Flyers fans are mugs for going to Dundee. Well sir i take exception to that remark as i am no mug. I am a Flyers fan who wants to support his team whether it be at Kirkcaldy Dundee or Edinburgh. If Dundee are able to fund an import on the back of my £15 then that is not my concern. Watching Dancing on ice or the x-factor on tv or supporting the Flyers - a no brainer to be honest. A big shout out to Mr Muir and Mr Wishart from bringing Elite League hockey back. Both are ridiculed in many quarters which i've always felt is completely unwarranted. No doubt they make some money but as far as i'm aware thats allowed in business and quite frankly i don't see any consortiums or multi millionares breaking the door down to take over. Well we now have the fabled 11th import you've been banging on about forever in a day. The conference couldn't be tighter and we are extremely well placed. The addition of Podge and the return of Bryan between the pipes at the weekend gives us great impetus for the run in. I look at the other Teams around us and see nothing to fear. For me its not Edinburgh for the conference or Braehead who according to most are so much better than the rest of the Conference and the automatic winner. All i see is - Club in disarray due to gross mismanagement. For me its Flyers for the Conference. As you call yourself a Flyers fan sir all i can say is shame on you ! I can't imagine who this is aimed at ;-) I can though confirm my rantings are completely my own opinions, and I don't profess to speak for anyone else, although I don't suspect I'm alone in some of them. I also agree, there have been times I have gone on at great length about the short bench situation, but that is caused of nothing more than frustration from my perspective. Obviously I can't predict who will win this conference, and from other posts I have said it will go right down to the wire. I still reckon Edinburgh have a great chance of winning it, and it's fair play to them, they've put together a very competitive team. I'm a little saddened that you doubt my feelings for the club though, I would have thought if nothing else, people wouldn't doubt that. Fair play though, everyone has an opinion, and of course, we won't all agree. Would I love Fife to win the conference, of course I would, nothing would make me happier, and here's to the run in, which is going to be might tight.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Feb 19, 2013 12:26:49 GMT
gonna go down to the last weekend i think for final league placing but if one team in our conf goes on a run now they could take it.
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Post by harlan on Feb 19, 2013 15:11:01 GMT
I said before Christmas that it could well come down to our last game of the season against Braehead to decide who will win this conference and I am still sticking to this.
By the way, fantastic post Dag
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Post by dag101 on Feb 19, 2013 15:11:14 GMT
I respect your reply and of course your right to your own opinion. I was irritated that you feel the Flyers will not qualify for the playoffs despite now having 11 imports which you have been crusading for from day one. You are are a regular poster on here and i sometimes find your posts to be a bit overly critical. However on reflection questioning your loyalty as a Flyers supporter was probably a bit over the top so sir i apologise to you for that.
I do agree that Edinburgh have built a very effective team this year but i am convinced with the quality we have and now the depth we have previously lacked - we have a great chance to win the Conference. As Flyer 007 put it so well in his post it would also be a fitting end to what I personally believe should be Todds last season as a player. A great servant to the club.
A very exciting number of weeks ahead and the rink should certainly be buzzing at the weekend.
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 19, 2013 15:19:38 GMT
I respect your reply and of course your right to your own opinion. I was irritated that you feel the Flyers will not qualify for the playoffs despite now having 11 imports which you have been crusading for from day one. You are are a regular poster on here and i sometimes find your posts to be a bit overly critical. However on reflection questioning your loyalty as a Flyers supporter was probably a bit over the top so sir i apologise to you for that. I do agree that Edinburgh have built a very effective team this year but i am convinced with the quality we have and now the depth we have previously lacked - we have a great chance to win the Conference. As Flyer 007 put it so well in his post it would also be a fitting end to what I personally believe should be Todds last season as a player. A great servant to the club. A very exciting number of weeks ahead and the rink should certainly be buzzing at the weekend. No problems at all, and no need to apologise. My frustration as always just been lack of depth, which has in led to injuries, which could have been avoided. It would certainly be a huge achievement if we can claim the Conference, and if it is to be Todd's final playing season, then there is no better way to end his playing career.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Feb 19, 2013 15:21:46 GMT
yeah davie i fell also we should have had at least another 2 brits in to add to the cover
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