kdd
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Post by kdd on Feb 26, 2013 20:56:23 GMT
They play the hibs song 500 miles but no-one complains about that. What makes that "the hibs song"? The fact that the proclaimers are hibs fans? I don't think you can even begin to compare it to the sectarian rewording of simply the best, which received national press coverage at the time. |
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Post by Dirkster23 on Feb 26, 2013 21:08:01 GMT
Why is it ridiculous? If you look at most team's forums, there is always a thread hanging around by the music/entertainment. On my forum, the thread is actually stickied to prevent the same subject popping up in different threads repeatedly. It`s ridiculous because the OP likened it to a football team. In fact, it was Tina Turner and nothing to do with any football team. Some will be offended if they want to be offended. They play the hibs song, 500 miles but no-one complains about that. We also have threads on the music on this forum. I am offended with flower of scotland being played but I don`t start threads on it. I stand by my point. Think your getting 500 miles mixed up with Sunshine on Leith! |
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spudeeelad
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Post by spudeeelad on Feb 27, 2013 9:55:55 GMT
It`s ridiculous because the OP likened it to a football team. In fact, it was Tina Turner and nothing to do with any football team. Some will be offended if they want to be offended. They play the hibs song, 500 miles but no-one complains about that. We also have threads on the music on this forum. I am offended with flower of scotland being played but I don`t start threads on it. I stand by my point. To be fair to the OP the song is synonymous with Rangers in Scotland whether you like it or not. Whether that makes it unsuitable for Flyers is another debate but why not discuss it? If you're not interested in the topic you're allowed to just leave it. You say folk will be offended if they want to be but you're clearly offended yourself and I don't see any reason why you shouldn't post why you dislike Flower of Scotland- some might argue otherwise but that's what a forum should be all about. Personally I don't see the point in national anthems before games either! I certainly don't see the need for so much forced patriotism at Flyers games either- so again, why not discuss it? A lot of what gets posted on here is trivial and people aren't saying it's life or death, but the more things being discussed the better IMO as long as folk can keep it civil! It should be like sitting in a cyber pub just talking about anything you want. What really kills threads is when folk come on and say 'ah you lot are aw just moaners'! I cannot stand GSTQ, the lyrics are 500 years out of date and have absolutely no relevance to the country, the people or just about anything other than one family representing a class system that is equally out of date. But by god do I stand straight and listen to it in absolute silence. Not because I am a monarchy fan (I am neither pro or anti-monarchy, but thats a different subject), but because our troops are fighting and dying abroad representing my flag and my anthem and their families back here struggle and get little support. This is my moment to think about them and whilst making little difference and being purely symbolic, the identity they are fighting for is my identity too as a British national. Frankly, I think it is absolutely disgusting that in today's British society that I can be asked to take my England flag down (ok, ok, but remember i'm not from Scotland  ) during the World Cup in case it offends people. Who gives a damn if it offends people? Imagine trying to tell a yank that he cannot fly his flag or play his anthem, you'd be shot! I would never, ever, go to any other country and say their anthem or flag offended me (even if it did), because it is their living space and they can do whatever the hell they like. I like the USA's sense of national pride and I think we need more of it in the UK. It is probably the one and only thing I agree with Alex Salmond on. Edit:- I reckon once Kate Middleton becomes Queen, i'll lean more towards being pro-monarchy |
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Feb 27, 2013 13:19:39 GMT
If that's the way you feel Spudeelad that's fine but I still don't get the relevance to CLUB hockey matches.
We never used to have the anthem in Fife at the start of games and we didn't have wee boys skating about with Scotland flags either. I don't get it.
Flyers seem to have gone all out on 'Scottishness' this season and I wonder why. I'm fairly patriotic and Flyers are a Scottish team- but there are 3 others in the EIHL. We've got a tartan strip and a huge percentage of the music played throughout the game seems to be Scottish themed including a passage from The Bonny Banks of Loch Lomond which seems to be played 5/6 times a game.
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Post by theflyinsheep on Feb 27, 2013 15:10:39 GMT
I certainly aint a moaner on this forum and I was proud as bunch that the team got the 4pts this weekend.
The reality is though that that song is related to The Rangers and every time I hear it that is what I think about.
I agree with all the comments that its a free world etc. I also agree though that there is an element of people who hear that song and think of of things no hockey or football related.
Want an example.
Some guy 2 rows behind me in Sheffield singing sectarian songs loud and proud during the flyers game.
I sat raging the whole night as that is the whole reason I have walked away from football.
I was genuinly gutted to hear these things being sung by a 'flyers' fan.
So to anyone who thinks this behaviour has no place in hockey you are 100% correct.
To anyone who thinks it does not excist. Sorry......its their. This is why I do not think it is appropriate to play that song.
Its such a shame that the minority can cause this, but that seems to be the way of it.
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kdd
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Post by kdd on Feb 27, 2013 15:23:17 GMT
Some guy 2 rows behind me in Sheffield singing sectarian songs loud and proud during the flyers game. What guff was being spouted? Shocking nonetheless... I'd have been raging too. |
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Post by theflyinsheep on Feb 27, 2013 16:51:55 GMT
Stuff not relevant to this forum. It was disgusting as very pro certain irish groups and queen loving.
Vermon!!
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spudeeelad
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Post by spudeeelad on Feb 28, 2013 10:17:36 GMT
If that's the way you feel Spudeelad that's fine but I still don't get the relevance to CLUB hockey matches. We never used to have the anthem in Fife at the start of games and we didn't have wee boys skating about with Scotland flags either. I don't get it. Flyers seem to have gone all out on 'Scottishness' this season and I wonder why. I'm fairly patriotic and Flyers are a Scottish team- but there are 3 others in the EIHL. We've got a tartan strip and a huge percentage of the music played throughout the game seems to be Scottish themed including a passage from The Bonny Banks of Loch Lomond which seems to be played 5/6 times a game. Personally, I am of the view that the national anthem should be played at all sporting events, whether it be a club match or international match. Edit:- Also think the flag should be flown as well. But I would prefer one Scottish flag and one Union Jack and when in England, one English flag and one Union Jack and the same in Wales with a Welsh flag. Belfast is obviously a sensitive area so they should continue without anything of the sort. |
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Feb 28, 2013 10:33:38 GMT
If that's the way you feel Spudeelad that's fine but I still don't get the relevance to CLUB hockey matches. We never used to have the anthem in Fife at the start of games and we didn't have wee boys skating about with Scotland flags either. I don't get it. Flyers seem to have gone all out on 'Scottishness' this season and I wonder why. I'm fairly patriotic and Flyers are a Scottish team- but there are 3 others in the EIHL. We've got a tartan strip and a huge percentage of the music played throughout the game seems to be Scottish themed including a passage from The Bonny Banks of Loch Lomond which seems to be played 5/6 times a game. Personally, I am of the view that the national anthem should be played at all sporting events, whether it be a club match or international match. Edit:- Also think the flag should be flown as well. But I would prefer one Scottish flag and one Union Jack and when in England, one English flag and one Union Jack and the same in Wales with a Welsh flag. Belfast is obviously a sensitive area so they should continue without anything of the sort. Are there any other club sports in the UK where the national anthem is played prior to the game? And.. where is the relevance? We're copying North America IMO. |
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Post by sparkymark75 on Feb 28, 2013 12:10:06 GMT
Pretty sure the Caps don't play the national anthem? Bu then they do that whole "introduce the player to the blueline" thing.
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Post by appleicemac on Feb 28, 2013 12:38:39 GMT
Edinburgh don't play the anthem - i was told all EIHL teams have to play it at the start to follow the alliance with the NHL.
IMO think its pointless unless its an international.
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Post by heggig on Feb 28, 2013 20:35:01 GMT
What is the link with the NHL all about? Is it beneficial in any way?
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flyersfaninspain
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Post by flyersfaninspain on Mar 1, 2013 0:18:11 GMT
If you go to the NHL website home page and scroll to the bottom you will find under Affiliate sites the EIHL (UK) for what ever reason.  |
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Post by captainsensible on Mar 1, 2013 9:10:05 GMT
Scotland also doesn't have an official anthem. So what do you play? Flower of Scotland, Highland Cathedral maybe Scotland the Brave or do we follow the Scottish Government and have some bint sing an old Rabbie Burns poem? Its **** and should be left to international's only. I actually like the Edinburgh idea of introducing all the players from both teams. It helps newbies and you can start to cheer/abuse your favourites early
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Post by coloradoflyer on Mar 1, 2013 9:26:41 GMT
i always liked the introduce the players thing
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) during the World Cup in case it offends people. Who gives a damn if it offends people? Imagine trying to tell a yank that he cannot fly his flag or play his anthem, you'd be shot!
