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Post by daviejojo on Mar 5, 2013 12:15:38 GMT
Yup, the guys keep talking about the plan, tbh, I'd be ditching the plan, it's not working. And just go and win, what is ultimately, a winable hockey game
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Post by coloradoflyer on Mar 5, 2013 12:45:23 GMT
we can win all 5 of these games were as good if not better on the night than any of them we just have to turn up and play our own game frustrate the opposition press them we can do this boys COYF
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Post by draw1 on Mar 5, 2013 13:07:01 GMT
we can win all 5 of these games were as good if not better on the night than any of them we just have to turn up and play our own game frustrate the opposition press them we can do this boys COYF Do you actually think about your posts? Or is it like going to the loo, it just flows naturally
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Post by daviejojo on Mar 5, 2013 14:15:18 GMT
I think it looked a couple of weeks back, that 52 points would be needed to finish top 8, but, with the way results have gone, I suspect, 48 points might just sneak top 8, but 50, is probably a banker to finish top 8.
So, 4 wins from 5 needed, which means, we still need to win at least 2 away games from our remaining 3.
Of the 3 games, weirdly, I think we have the best chance of a win at Braehead, they are definitely on a low in terms of confidence, so it comes down to Dundee and Edinburgh, and can we sneak a win at either venue.
This is course based on the principle of us winning our last 2 home games too, which again, won't be easy. Edinburgh, I suspect, have the scent of the play off's in their noses and I still see them as a huge threat, despite being slated for suggesting this before Christmas.
So for me, I am going to go with Hull and Dundee making the play off's (Hull maybe via the Gardiner title obviously, not being top 8), and either us, Edinburgh and Clan finishing 7th and taking the last slot.
So I suspect, 8th and 9th, will not qualify, but 10th might just take enough points in the Gardiner to take the place away from who comes 8th.
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Post by daviejojo on Mar 5, 2013 14:18:03 GMT
Which by the way, will be 24 wins from 52, just 2 shy of playing 500 hockey. You would definitely have expected to make the play off's with those numbers before the year started, just shows how much both the league has improved in our half of the draw, and how big an impact the conference system has had on the final standings.
It also highlights the absolute MUST in starting with a full quota next season from day 1. If we had done this, we'd be sitting 4th or 5th quite comfortably at the moment, and probably with the Gardiner in the bag already giving us 2nd seed for the play off's. An opportunity missed indeed.
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Post by daviejojo on Mar 5, 2013 14:19:49 GMT
Also, worth pointing out, Hull's last 2 Gardiner games are home and away against Dundee, so if they do sneak the Conference, it will have a big negative impact on Dundee's ability to win the title too.
It's almost to close to call really.
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Post by Dstar1512 on Mar 5, 2013 14:22:50 GMT
Hull wont win the conference, apart from the 2 Dundee games, they have Sheffield, Coventry, Cardiff and Nottingham. So best they can get is 4 points in the conference.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Mar 5, 2013 14:27:58 GMT
we can win all 5 of these games were as good if not better on the night than any of them we just have to turn up and play our own game frustrate the opposition press them we can do this boys COYF Do you actually think about your posts? Or is it like going to the loo, it just flows naturally sorry , what
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Post by daviejojo on Mar 5, 2013 14:54:03 GMT
A wee bit more to the story.
Ok, at home, we have played 27 games, winning 19 and losing 8 times. Not too bad at all. Away from home, we've now played 26 games, with 4 wins, and 22 defeats.
The 4 away wins this year, are twice in Edinburgh, and once in both Dundee and Braehead.
Funnily enough, all 3 arena's we have still to visit. So we can do it, we just need to make the players believe they can do it again.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Mar 5, 2013 15:08:22 GMT
yup davie we can do it,
dundee - winnable this weekend as we have time to rest and get ready, dundee have to travel 14 hrs round trip, to play hull and should be knackered for our game sunday we have to go in there and boss it, we will win by 2 goals i think.
clan - aare up and down it all depends on what clan team turn up and if we play well gonna be a close game.
cpas double header - we should win the home game, caps are good at home but beatable all depends on who wants it more on the night
last game at home against the clan we have to win that one and have been good at home all year let's hope we end it on a high
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Post by daviejojo on Mar 5, 2013 15:23:21 GMT
You wouldn't have predicted it, but in terms how the teams are set up to play, we seem to be able to go into Braehead and nulify their game play. We have it sussed out how to play there. As for Edinburgh, since they brought in the numbers up to 11 imports, we've not had a look in, it's like the "old days", we look beaten before we even start the game. And as for Dundee, play to our strengths and we can win.
For all those games though, the key simple fact is we need 5 men on the ice. For too often we are down to a 5 on 4, or 5 on 3, and we just can't soak it up for entire game. I have no issue with a guy getting thrown out for 5 mins on a fighting call etc, as these can physically change the complexion of the game, but we have to stop taking the silly penalties.
Interesting to hear a few comments from Saturday who said despite being obviously outplayed on Saturday, we actually looked a tired side. That has to be a worry on game 1 of your weekend. It has to come down to how often the guys are skating during the week, the teams at the top, and those with ambition skate 4 times in training, have 1 day off, and 2 game days as an average week. And when training, they train at 10.30, midday, 2pm etc, our training schedule can't be good for the team when your on the ice at 10.30 at night etc.
They really need to look at that for next season. The full time guys should be skating pretty much every day
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Post by jonathan on Mar 5, 2013 16:12:58 GMT
You wouldn't have predicted it, but in terms how the teams are set up to play, we seem to be able to go into Braehead and nulify their game play. We have it sussed out how to play there. As for Edinburgh, since they brought in the numbers up to 11 imports, we've not had a look in, it's like the "old days", we look beaten before we even start the game. And as for Dundee, play to our strengths and we can win. For all those games though, the key simple fact is we need 5 men on the ice. For too often we are down to a 5 on 4, or 5 on 3, and we just can't soak it up for entire game. I have no issue with a guy getting thrown out for 5 mins on a fighting call etc, as these can physically change the complexion of the game, but we have to stop taking the silly penalties. Interesting to hear a few comments from Saturday who said despite being obviously outplayed on Saturday, we actually looked a tired side. That has to be a worry on game 1 of your weekend. It has to come down to how often the guys are skating during the week, the teams at the top, and those with ambition skate 4 times in training, have 1 day off, and 2 game days as an average week. And when training, they train at 10.30, midday, 2pm etc, our training schedule can't be good for the team when your on the ice at 10.30 at night etc. They really need to look at that for next season. The full time guys should be skating pretty much every day They look tired in D when Wands doesn't play, as they're not getting the full break, but if you play Stewart in D, we are losing a Forward. Is there no one in D that could play a few shifts?
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Post by coloradoflyer on Mar 5, 2013 16:27:28 GMT
wonder if they could do it on a rotation during the game,
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Post by turbos on Mar 5, 2013 18:31:20 GMT
Agree with casper1512, Hull will not win the conference, I think it will go to Dundee (even if Flyers win on Sunday). Looking at the league it will probably be Hull and Braehead that will miss out on the play-offs going on remaining fixtures and form.
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Post by ted on Mar 10, 2013 15:53:05 GMT
majority going for a loss tonight...yikes
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