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Post by stirlingflyer on Feb 23, 2014 22:12:05 GMT
Tonight's win guarantees that we'll finish the season in at least ninth place as the Caps can mathematically no longer catch us.
With seven wins out of the last ten games, we're second only to Belfast over that stretch.
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Post by flyers40 on Feb 23, 2014 22:23:24 GMT
Tuesdays game even more important now in the off chance Hanson adds to Matts suspension and hes missing from the Belfast game on Saturday.
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Post by harlan on Feb 23, 2014 23:43:50 GMT
So apparently the penalty shot was given as a result of Regan catching his stick in the net and looking to Smith to stop the game as a result and when he didn't Regan tried to free it and dislodged the net-penalty shot.
The abuse of the official has all happened as a result of this and that was Smith giving 7 abuse penalties in two nights, whats the betting Hanson sticks by his officials decisions rather than questioning them?
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Feb 23, 2014 23:57:05 GMT
So apparently the penalty shot was given as a result of Regan catching his stick in the net and looking to Smith to stop the game as a result and when he didn't Regan tried to free it and dislodged the net-penalty shot. Pplp The abuse of the official has all happened as a result of this and that was Smith giving 7 abuse penalties in two nights, whats the betting Hanson sticks by his officials decisions rather than questioning them? It's a given this will happen, and that is why the officiating will never get better in this league, and Hanson has failed miserably at raising officiating standards, if anything there performances has got worse under his watch.
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Post by gmac on Feb 24, 2014 0:03:41 GMT
Hope Flyers Management put in a formal complaint about this. Spitting in sport is disgusting and there is no way this should have been written on a game report. Somebody has a case to answer here deformation of character.............. Think you meant 'defamation' ?
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Post by flyersfaninspain on Feb 24, 2014 0:53:30 GMT
Thanks for the updates guys and another good result ....overall. For pro players they should know by now that they will never win against any ref. Danny as coach should know even more so.
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 24, 2014 9:37:01 GMT
Can totally understand the players frustration, but, the team had just pulled themselves right back into the play off hunt, it's a little bit silly to lose potentially 2 players now for Tuesday.
That said, how would you react, it must be very difficult if you 100% know the call is bad.
Shame to see big Matt with another ban too, hopefully, there will be no increase, as the precedent was set earlier this month. Glad it sounds like it wasn't spitting though, that would have been horrific. If it was proved to be spitting, the player should be released immediately, regardless of the team impact, ethics are more important, but, it sounds like he's just reacted to a fan and gestured, which, whilst silly, I don't think warrants any real further punishment.
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Post by nobabody on Feb 24, 2014 10:21:00 GMT
Can totally understand the players frustration, but, the team had just pulled themselves right back into the play off hunt, it's a little bit silly to lose potentially 2 players now for Tuesday. That said, how would you react, it must be very difficult if you 100% know the call is bad. Shame to see big Matt with another ban too, hopefully, there will be no increase, as the precedent was set earlier this month. Glad it sounds like it wasn't spitting though, that would have been horrific. If it was proved to be spitting, the player should be released immediately, regardless of the team impact, ethics are more important, but, it sounds like he's just reacted to a fan and gestured, which, whilst silly, I don't think warrants any real further punishment. with whom was the precedent set?
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 24, 2014 10:40:31 GMT
Can totally understand the players frustration, but, the team had just pulled themselves right back into the play off hunt, it's a little bit silly to lose potentially 2 players now for Tuesday. That said, how would you react, it must be very difficult if you 100% know the call is bad. Shame to see big Matt with another ban too, hopefully, there will be no increase, as the precedent was set earlier this month. Glad it sounds like it wasn't spitting though, that would have been horrific. If it was proved to be spitting, the player should be released immediately, regardless of the team impact, ethics are more important, but, it sounds like he's just reacted to a fan and gestured, which, whilst silly, I don't think warrants any real further punishment. with whom was the precedent set? I meant Chris Frank for persistent Game & Match Penalties, not so much on the gesture side. I suspect we'll know more today once the game tape has been reviewed, I would be expecting Hanson to act quickly
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Post by RedBird on Feb 24, 2014 11:56:11 GMT
Can totally understand the players frustration, but, the team had just pulled themselves right back into the play off hunt, it's a little bit silly to lose potentially 2 players now for Tuesday. That said, how would you react, it must be very difficult if you 100% know the call is bad. Shame to see big Matt with another ban too, hopefully, there will be no increase, as the precedent was set earlier this month. Glad it sounds like it wasn't spitting though, that would have been horrific. If it was proved to be spitting, the player should be released immediately, regardless of the team impact, ethics are more important, but, it sounds like he's just reacted to a fan and gestured, which, whilst silly, I don't think warrants any real further punishment. Easy to understand the players frustrations and wouldn't have been a surprise had we lost the game, but to do this after scoring the winner is just crazy tbh especially as it puts us in a situation where we have key players suspended.
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Post by finchy on Feb 24, 2014 12:16:12 GMT
with whom was the precedent set? I meant Chris Frank for persistent Game & Match Penalties, not so much on the gesture side. I suspect we'll know more today once the game tape has been reviewed, I would be expecting Hanson to act quickly So really there hasn't been a precedent set? People need to stop comparing incidents or situations that aren't 'like for like'! Unless there's been a situation where a player has been dealt with for making an obscene gesture there's no precedent been set! Personally I'd be stunned if Nickerson received more than a 1 match ban for a gesture. That's harsh as it is, but it doesnt take away from how daft a penalty it was to take in the first place.
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 24, 2014 13:07:58 GMT
Well no, the precedent of persistent offending was set.
Frank didn't get any extra ban, that was what I meant, not the gesturing offence
It was a daft penalty though, especially as it all happened after we won the game. Will be interesting to see if the game tape actually shows that Regan was trying to get his stick out as DaCosta say's, and in which case, all these penalties could have been avoided.
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Post by finchy on Feb 24, 2014 14:00:39 GMT
Well no, the precedent of persistent offending was set. Frank didn't get any extra ban, that was what I meant, not the gesturing offence It was a daft penalty though, especially as it all happened after we won the game. Will be interesting to see if the game tape actually shows that Regan was trying to get his stick out as DaCosta say's, and in which case, all these penalties could have been avoided. Davie- there has been no precedent set with any relevance to this whatsoever. Stop digging that hole any bigger!
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 24, 2014 14:05:44 GMT
Well no, the precedent of persistent offending was set. Frank didn't get any extra ban, that was what I meant, not the gesturing offence It was a daft penalty though, especially as it all happened after we won the game. Will be interesting to see if the game tape actually shows that Regan was trying to get his stick out as DaCosta say's, and in which case, all these penalties could have been avoided. Davie- there has been no precedent set with any relevance to this whatsoever. Stop digging that hole any bigger! Right, that's it, I'm off to get me Spade :-)
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Post by harlan on Feb 24, 2014 15:15:36 GMT
Davie- there has been no precedent set with any relevance to this whatsoever. Stop digging that hole any bigger! Right, that's it, I'm off to get me Spade :-) There has been some sort of precedent. In Dec 2010 Brad Cruickshank received a match penalty for obscene gestures and another for excessive roughness and he had an added match added to both offences as it was stated that as per Elite league tariffs an additional one match penalty was added to both offences. So whether this is still the case or whether this is due to the nature and seriousness of the offence is open to debate
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