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Post by joestoyanovich on Aug 5, 2015 13:14:16 GMT
If I were young Bean I wouldn't be sticking around for another season sitting on my backside 60 mins a game, that's for sure.
Think I'd be following others out the door.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 16:58:51 GMT
Think Anderson must have spat in Todds cornflakes at some point. I remember when he had his debut with Flyers at 15 years old. Hes not the fastest on the ice, but he's so clever with the stick and can read the game. He was certainly one for the future but for what appears to be personal reasons Todd froze him out . Infact I think he retired from the sport at some point and only came back about 4 years ago. Imagine if Todd had developed him, what a player he could have been for us. Instead he brought in Scoony who was never classed as outstanding at any age level he played as a junior , and continues to play his pal Torch. Despite this Anderson is loyal to Fife like his old man before him and probably will never be tempted away. If he gets brought back this season perhaps this is the time to let him shine instead of riding the pine. He's still 4-5 years younger than the other Brit forwards so plenty to get out of him yet.
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Post by tam on Aug 5, 2015 21:27:08 GMT
i wonder what brits we are getting still? no word on kyle horn or beani, there are rumours of jordan steel again and jamie wilson has been listed on elite prospects as both forward and defence. could they be waiting to see if kyle is fit and if not move jamie to D and put beanie or steel on the wing? .
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Post by drwho on Aug 6, 2015 8:36:58 GMT
Wilson would be as well being spare d man. All he does when he gets the puck is fire it aimlessly forwards. I'd much rather have a kestrels player or u20 player instead
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Post by pink on Aug 6, 2015 9:54:47 GMT
I told you young Bean Anderson would be back at the Kestrels
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Post by johndabomb on Aug 6, 2015 23:13:51 GMT
So to summarise:
Daly: ok as back up.
Muir: the best of the Brits. He will have a go and not afraid to do so but not really Elite level.
Forsyth: Nobody will miss him.
Horne: Getting on but still better than most. Will he be re-signed?
Wands: Better than Forsyth but worse than Muir.
Gunn: not bad, just about acceptable.
Anderson: probably had some potential but lost it along the way, never had enough or didn't get the chance depending on your view.
Scoon: dreadful, nobody rates him at all.
Wilson: some say as dreadful as Scoon, others say at least he had a bit more size and did the odd good thing.
Plews: tragic loss.
Moore and Marr: see above.
Cunningham, Farmer, Leslie: Potential but will either never get a shot or if they do won't get a meaningful one.
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Post by toomanymen on Aug 7, 2015 6:23:05 GMT
Are you and pink cunningham and leslie's agents or just fed up relatives!
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Post by pink on Aug 7, 2015 7:21:05 GMT
Just p---ed off young ones not getting the chance watch this space in 2-3 years when muir and co are to old and see what we have at Kirkcaldy and you will say to your self pink was rite those years ago
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Post by waterboy on Aug 7, 2015 7:54:25 GMT
Put a different angle on this, The Kestrels are playing Whitley Bay on the 22nd in a pre season game, I would make the rather obvious suggestion that both our coaches will be there to watch over the game and see who performs or is looking like they could step up and train at a minimum with the Flyers.
At the very least we will need a few defencemen to allow for decent scrimmages (assuming they don't intend to run with 6 in training).
Why not start training camp early and bring a raft of these guys in pick the top 5 and keep them up when the imports get here. Basically give these guys the chance to show what they can do.
If the Flyers coaches are not attending this game or any training sessions that the falcons or Kestrels have, I would say that there actions speak volumes in there attitude to KIHC.
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Post by pink on Aug 7, 2015 11:28:21 GMT
The coaches have 5 or 6 players up ever year before the imports come in then dump them it will be the same this year watch this space that is how they feel about KIHC
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Post by pink on Aug 7, 2015 11:39:09 GMT
People on this forum should check out the Kestrels site and see what has been writing about the players that have resigned for them then you will see what I am speaking about
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Post by cl24 on Aug 7, 2015 12:41:07 GMT
Realistically though, is the gap between SNL and EIHL not just far too big? I've not seen many SNL games but it just seems like any player going straight from SNL to EIHL would be lucky not to get seriously injured, and I do remember Todd saying that in the past. If the priority is finding players that aren't going to injured at this level then it doesn't look too great.
Until there's some sort of league of similar level to the EPL, it's hard to see how many players are going to be able to develop into EIHL Brits?
(to be honest I don't know much about it, so I might be talking rubbish - feel free to let me know. But I think people are maybe a bit harsh on Todd in this respect. Would any other EIHL team recruit from the SNL?)
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Post by Dirkster23 on Aug 7, 2015 12:43:36 GMT
The coaches have 5 or 6 players up ever year before the imports come in then dump them it will be the same this year watch this space that is how they feel about KIHC I want to see young local guys breaking into the team- I think losing Plews to the Caps is a massive blow to how we build a team for the future despite how some short-sighted fans see it. However, there is an onus on the guys that start camp with the Flyers to ensure they turn up in top condition so their fitness isn’t a contributing factor to them not being asked to train or go on a two-way contract. I recall Danny Stewart saying 2 or 3 years ago they were happy to have guys train provided it didn’t drop the overall speed and intensity of the sessions. I’m not sure if that is still the case, but are the guys from the Kestrels putting in the required work over the summer? It seems to me Flyers Brits that have worked most on their strength and conditioning appear to be the ones that have made the best transition to the EIHL. It’s interesting that Emmerson saw enough in Plews to ask him to a camp in Canada, but he’s not approached anyone else to even be part of the Caps academy. BTW, you seem to know a lot about the Kestrels- is it pink Floyd?!?
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Post by waterboy on Aug 7, 2015 13:11:14 GMT
Realistically though, is the gap between SNL and EIHL not just far too big? I've not seen many SNL games but it just seems like any player going straight from SNL to EIHL would be lucky not to get seriously injured, and I do remember Todd saying that in the past. If the priority is finding players that aren't going to injured at this level then it doesn't look too great. Until there's some sort of league of similar level to the EPL, it's hard to see how many players are going to be able to develop into EIHL Brits? (to be honest I don't know much about it, so I might be talking rubbish - feel free to let me know. But I think people are maybe a bit harsh on Todd in this respect. Would any other EIHL team recruit from the SNL?) Sam McCluskey in Dundee ex SNL player. Edinburgh - Callum Boyd, Shaun Beattie, Jay King, James Wallace, Tyler Plews (he was actually a Fife Falcon playing up to the SNL). Taking guys from this level is no problem because they train with you to get up to speed then you slowly drip feed them into games. This B/S about guys getting hurt if they played Elite is just that. Train and develop them give them weight training to build up etc etc. I'm afraid that is just a very poor excuse from Todd if he did in fact say that. I know a good few ex players who dropped into the SNL from higher leagues and while they were obviously very good players at that level but they were really surprised by just how physical it actually was. It becomes fairly simple either recruit from your own Junior club or bring in Brits from around the country and that costs more. The top guys should be playing with the Flyers now, We have the best junior programme in the country yet not one player looks good enough or has been identified as getting an opportunity. That just doesn't add up!
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Post by cl24 on Aug 7, 2015 13:34:25 GMT
Realistically though, is the gap between SNL and EIHL not just far too big? I've not seen many SNL games but it just seems like any player going straight from SNL to EIHL would be lucky not to get seriously injured, and I do remember Todd saying that in the past. If the priority is finding players that aren't going to injured at this level then it doesn't look too great. Until there's some sort of league of similar level to the EPL, it's hard to see how many players are going to be able to develop into EIHL Brits? (to be honest I don't know much about it, so I might be talking rubbish - feel free to let me know. But I think people are maybe a bit harsh on Todd in this respect. Would any other EIHL team recruit from the SNL?) Sam McCluskey in Dundee ex SNL player. Edinburgh - Callum Boyd, Shaun Beattie, Jay King, James Wallace, Tyler Plews (he was actually a Fife Falcon playing up to the SNL). Taking guys from this level is no problem because they train with you to get up to speed then you slowly drip feed them into games. This B/S about guys getting hurt if they played Elite is just that. Train and develop them give them weight training to build up etc etc. I'm afraid that is just a very poor excuse from Todd if he did in fact say that. I know a good few ex players who dropped into the SNL from higher leagues and while they were obviously very good players at that level but they were really surprised by just how physical it actually was. It becomes fairly simple either recruit from your own Junior club or bring in Brits from around the country and that costs more. The top guys should be playing with the Flyers now, We have the best junior programme in the country yet not one player looks good enough or has been identified as getting an opportunity. That just doesn't add up! Thanks for clearing those few things up. Didn't realise those players had come from the SNL. The Todd part I mentioned was on Flyers TV maybe last year or something. It was just a comment he made, it didn't come across as any sort of excuse.
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