flyers4eva
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Post by flyers4eva on Sept 24, 2015 21:13:17 GMT
Does anyone know who does our game highlights?
The reason I ask is I've been watching the other highlights from around the league tonight and we are missing some really basic stuff!
I still can't believe we don't have slow replays of the goals, surely that us so obvious!
The graphic of our highlights are also really cringy. I could do better in Windows Moviemaker I'm pretty sure.
But I guess the worst thing about it is that our highlights are actually only random bits of the game. For example, the Coventry game, Bryan Stewart made possibly the save of the season to stop Danny Stewart and was that included in our highlights, heck no.
Surely stuff like this is easy enough to correct. Watch the game back, note the proper highlights, or even do it during he game.
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pittsburghpingu17
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Post by pittsburghpingu17 on Sept 24, 2015 23:10:58 GMT
Having the score at the top corner would improve them aswell. Said before, but Flyers should get whoever does Raith's highlights in. They're much better. However, the little bar at the bottom with the score is a slight improvement on the sparkly writing in the middle I guess. Would like to see who got the assists aswell, view from behind the goals and slow motion replays of goals. But hey. That's probably asking for too much..
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Billkmc
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Post by Billkmc on Sept 24, 2015 23:14:43 GMT
The graphics this season are better than the sparkling scroll they tried last season haha The bit about slow motion replays I agree with, we showed some of our goals from different angles slowed down before the actual highlights went online. Now I realise these videos were filmed by Ross or Ali and they have nothing to do with the actual highlights but it seems odd to me that they don't get together with the guy that does the actual filming/editing and put a more comprehensive set of highlights together. I hope this doesn't come across as criticism because I do appreciate the hard work these volunteers put in but if I had the ability and know how what I would like to see is, 1)the different camera angles put together to give us (as I already said) better more comprehensive highlights 2)move the mic (if possible) so it picks up the noise of the arena and not the shouts of individuals around the cameras. The swearing and abuse being shouted has actually stopped members of my family allowing their kids watch the highlights. One isn't allowed to games anymore as his mother thinks the whole arena is constantly swearing and threatening people and thinks it's a bad influence. Even though she is incorrect it's her job to protect her kids and something as simple as muting the bad language is costing the club money. 3) I would like to hear commentary with the highlights although it's not a priority I think if we want to attract new fans this would help,
Even without an improvement of picture quality just too give us good commentary over proper highlights with replays and a variety of angles with the noise of the arena and not just the odd voice hurling abuse like some stereotypical Sunday league football fan would be a huge improvement. It is something we could over time build upon and use to highlight the team and use to attract sponsors and new fans.
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Post by swarfiga on Sept 25, 2015 7:10:34 GMT
The graphics this season are better than the sparkling scroll they tried last season haha The bit about slow motion replays I agree with, we showed some of our goals from different angles slowed down before the actual highlights went online. Now I realise these videos were filmed by Ross or Ali and they have nothing to do with the actual highlights but it seems odd to me that they don't get together with the guy that does the actual filming/editing and put a more comprehensive set of highlights together. I hope this doesn't come across as criticism because I do appreciate the hard work these volunteers put in but if I had the ability and know how what I would like to see is, 1)the different camera angles put together to give us (as I already said) better more comprehensive highlights 2)move the mic (if possible) so it picks up the noise of the arena and not the shouts of individuals around the cameras. The swearing and abuse being shouted has actually stopped members of my family allowing their kids watch the highlights. One isn't allowed to games anymore as his mother thinks the whole arena is constantly swearing and threatening people and thinks it's a bad influence. Even though she is incorrect it's her job to protect her kids and something as simple as muting the bad language is costing the club money. 3) I would like to hear commentary with the highlights although it's not a priority I think if we want to attract new fans this would help, Even without an improvement of picture quality just too give us good commentary over proper highlights with replays and a variety of angles with the noise of the arena and not just the odd voice hurling abuse like some stereotypical Sunday league football fan would be a huge improvement. It is something we could over time build upon and use to highlight the team and use to attract sponsors and new fans. Tell your mate to turn the volume down on the highlights then. As far as not going to games, the rink is nowhere near as bad as some make out, sure there's the odd F and S words banded about but unless U wanna go watch cricket you get that everywhere, it's a working class town.
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Sept 25, 2015 8:22:05 GMT
The graphics this season are better than the sparkling scroll they tried last season haha The bit about slow motion replays I agree with, we showed some of our goals from different angles slowed down before the actual highlights went online. Now I realise these videos were filmed by Ross or Ali and they have nothing to do with the actual highlights but it seems odd to me that they don't get together with the guy that does the actual filming/editing and put a more comprehensive set of highlights together. I hope this doesn't come across as criticism because I do appreciate the hard work these volunteers put in but if I had the ability and know how what I would like to see is, 1)the different camera angles put together to give us (as I already said) better more comprehensive highlights 2)move the mic (if possible) so it picks up the noise of the arena and not the shouts of individuals around the cameras. The swearing and abuse being shouted has actually stopped members of my family allowing their kids watch the highlights. One isn't allowed to games anymore as his mother thinks the whole arena is constantly swearing and threatening people and thinks it's a bad influence. Even though she is incorrect it's her job to protect her kids and something as simple as muting the bad language is costing the club money. 3) I would like to hear commentary with the highlights although it's not a priority I think if we want to attract new fans this would help, Even without an improvement of picture quality just too give us good commentary over proper highlights with replays and a variety of angles with the noise of the arena and not just the odd voice hurling abuse like some stereotypical Sunday league football fan would be a huge improvement. It is something we could over time build upon and use to highlight the team and use to attract sponsors and new fans. Tell your mate to turn the volume down on the highlights then. As far as not going to games, the rink is nowhere near as bad as some make out, sure there's the odd F and S words banded about but unless U wanna go watch cricket you get that everywhere, it's a working class town. Nah, I think you're wrong there and the points about doing more to pick up the overall noise in the arena are good ones. The highlights are generally really poor quality and I can only assume that a lot of things get missed as the amount of times we see clips of mundane action such as keepers freezing the puck on routine dumps is pretty remarkable. Also seem to give up a lot of time to footage of the national anthem, time-outs etc. Regards the bad language, like you I dont have a problem with the odd sweary at the rink, but the videos sound like there's about 6 folk there... and lets face it, the ones who get picked up week in, week out, probably wouldnt encourage you to take your kids along if that's the impression you're given of the 'banter' from the crowd. I'm told that during live coverage the commentators quite often have to apologise and it's not surprising. The graphics are really the only thing thats changed with the club videos in the past 30 years- surely with the advances in technology that shouldnt be the case?
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Post by swarfiga on Sept 25, 2015 8:33:14 GMT
Tell your mate to turn the volume down on the highlights then. As far as not going to games, the rink is nowhere near as bad as some make out, sure there's the odd F and S words banded about but unless U wanna go watch cricket you get that everywhere, it's a working class town. Nah, I think you're wrong there and the points about doing more to pick up the overall noise in the arena are good ones. The highlights are generally really poor quality and I can only assume that a lot of things get missed as the amount of times we see clips of mundane action such as keepers freezing the puck on routine dumps is pretty remarkable. Also seem to give up a lot of time to footage of the national anthem, time-outs etc. Regards the bad language, like you I dont have a problem with the odd sweary at the rink, but the videos sound like there's about 6 folk there... and lets face it, the ones who get picked up week in, week out, probably wouldnt encourage you to take your kids along if that's the impression you're given of the 'banter' from the crowd. I'm told that during live coverage the commentators quite often have to apologise and it's not surprising. The graphics are really the only thing thats changed with the club videos in the past 30 years- surely with the advances in technology that shouldnt be the case? I agree the audio is pretty poor and it does sound like the building is empty, the main problem last year on webcasts I think is where the commentators are, they're situated next to a vocal group that probably are a wee bit sweary, finding somewhere else may be difficult though due to the lay out of the place. Where you are spot on though is on the certain aspects off the highlights, sometimes you see a face off and that's it! Also they totally missed the clarkson Delahey incident until it had finished, where as the whole crowd noticed them talking before it happened. Keep it simple, goals, hits, fights. Iv no idea how you can improve the audio but it does need improving.
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Post by theflyinsheep on Sept 26, 2015 5:38:30 GMT
The quality is poor and Flyers are a couple of years behind most of the league here.
Simple things like sound and graphics are really easy to do and I have mentioned before on another thread a personal friend who worked for years with a multi billion pound broadcasting company offered to help for free and was told no.
Highlights etc would have been in full HD. Digital sound quality, and would have had what people wanna see.
As usual tho club dont wanna move forward.
Ye only need to look at the quality we have just now with webcasts from Hull (i know they are done now) Dundee, Cardiff a d Blaze. Devils and Blaze TV is brilliant. Also Giants is pretty decent as well as Clan.
It was not that long ago that we were saying Clans was brutal and ours was way better. Not saying that now are we.
Yet another instance of the club not wanting to move forward as a club and husiness.
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icysmith
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Post by icysmith on Sept 26, 2015 7:11:12 GMT
Swearing.......Could be something as a simple as to ask for a steward to actually do something for his dough, and police the area.
I`m sure the rink management know about it but what are they prepared to do about it? Kinda makes a mockery of the announcements before each game.
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Post by happydaysdancer on Sept 26, 2015 7:18:39 GMT
The camera needs an upgrade and the stuff does need better editing. Anything less than HD in this day and age is a poor show
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flyers4eva
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Post by flyers4eva on Sept 26, 2015 12:04:20 GMT
Swearing.......Could be something as a simple as to ask for a steward to actually do something for his dough, and police the area. I`m sure the rink management know about it but what are they prepared to do about it? Kinda makes a mockery of the announcements before each game. I'm pretty sure that lot have been spoken to before. And security have been placed up there beside the camera but it is still a problem. That group of folk, can't remember what the call their wee club/group/gang, think they are the most important folk in the rink.
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Post by swarfiga on Sept 27, 2015 2:58:59 GMT
Swearing.......Could be something as a simple as to ask for a steward to actually do something for his dough, and police the area. I`m sure the rink management know about it but what are they prepared to do about it? Kinda makes a mockery of the announcements before each game. The stewards don't give a toss, they get paid for having a few fags
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flyers4eva
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Post by flyers4eva on Sept 27, 2015 7:03:46 GMT
I've read a lot about how folk want multi camera views in order to make the quality of our own highlights.
Anyone ever watched Belfast highlights? They have 1 camera but they do it all very professionally. Nice graphics and slow mo replay!!!!!
It doesn't need to be multi camera views.
On an earlier point I was reading in the match programme, match highlights are done by Len, the guy who films the game. Why doesn't he work with Ross or Ali to up the quality to their standard?
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Post by joestoyanovich on Sept 27, 2015 7:28:12 GMT
Swearing.......Could be something as a simple as to ask for a steward to actually do something for his dough, and police the area. I`m sure the rink management know about it but what are they prepared to do about it? Kinda makes a mockery of the announcements before each game. The stewards don't give a toss, they get paid for having a few fags We should have a swearing section ! Might be more popular than the singing section that's oft been talked about. You would get thrown out of it if every thing you said didn't contain at least 50% bad language. Fights would break out when someone was heard saying a sentence without f... or f...... in it.
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Post by zamboni on Sept 27, 2015 8:35:59 GMT
As with all Towns and Cities the faithful come from all walks of life. You wont get a sterile environment its called character building and leave it at that. There will be worse language getting banded about school playgrounds There are a few though that don't know how to control themselves and that will never change
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icysmith
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Post by icysmith on Sept 27, 2015 11:22:01 GMT
Something I`ve said for years is do away with words being classed as swearing/bad/foul.
Just say these words are now socially accepted, take away the stigma attached and problem solved.
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