ted
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Post by ted on Oct 20, 2015 20:04:12 GMT
Been thinking for a few weeks about this, bear with me and read it all
1) Could it be that Broony would do much better with tighter D in front of him ?
2) Is it the D men themselves or D systems at fault for leaving him exposed?
3) Is Broonys style wrong for the type of D men they got in, did he not finish higher up that Regan last year on paper?
4) Is Broonys Net minding just of a lower standard than we are used to?
I am genuinely asking as I can see Broony, Regan and Pitton have differing styles, is this the reason others don't see him being up to it? Or is the recruiting around him wrong for his style making him look bad, or the systems?
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Post by zamboni on Oct 20, 2015 20:19:28 GMT
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 20, 2015 20:48:09 GMT
Been thinking for a few weeks about this, bear with me and read it all 1) Could it be that Broony would do much better with tighter D in front of him ? 2) Is it the D men themselves or D systems at fault for leaving him exposed? 3) Is Broonys style wrong for the type of D men they got in, did he not finish higher up that Regan last year on paper? 4) Is Broonys Net minding just of a lower standard than we are used to? I am genuinely asking as I can see Broony, Regan and Pitton have differing styles, is this the reason others don't see him being up to it? Or is the recruiting around him wrong for his style making him look bad, or the systems? I'll have a bash at answering these with my opinion 1, he's jeer at the best of times so aye he would be better with facing less shots and having a d that are quicker to pounce on his never ending rebounds. 2, the D systems are non existent as we don't defend as a team with any shape, but the D coughing up pucks on our own blue line, making passes straight to opposing forwards and getting ripped inside out half the time is down to individual errors. 3, similar to 1 he needs D that are going to cover his rebounds, he holds nothing, he also hates being crashed, this is where a big physical D man would be handy. 4, he's brutal
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Post by Dirkster23 on Oct 20, 2015 20:48:19 GMT
Been thinking for a few weeks about this, bear with me and read it all 1) Could it be that Broony would do much better with tighter D in front of him ? 2) Is it the D men themselves or D systems at fault for leaving him exposed? 3) Is Broonys style wrong for the type of D men they got in, did he not finish higher up that Regan last year on paper? 4) Is Broonys Net minding just of a lower standard than we are used to? I am genuinely asking as I can see Broony, Regan and Pitton have differing styles, is this the reason others don't see him being up to it? Or is the recruiting around him wrong for his style making him look bad, or the systems? I think we've got the third lowest shots against average in the league, so the team are making sure he's not seeing too much rubber. He never seems in control, always looking behind himself for the puck after a save and flapping around. To me, he looks like a keeper that's struggling with his game at the moment and that's backed up by the stats (.877 SV% and 3.40 GA).
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Post by tackleberry on Oct 20, 2015 20:49:09 GMT
Now that would give everyone a lift................ But not a chance it is gonna happen.
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Post by Dirkster23 on Oct 20, 2015 20:49:37 GMT
Only if Tam Muir has won the EuroMillions!
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Post by thebear on Oct 20, 2015 21:49:26 GMT
Mr Flappy allows far too many rebounds and our D (3rd line especially) are not quick enough to deal with them allowing the other teams to pounce on them. Our D gets caught in possession far too easy and cough up too many pucks in neutral & our zone. Also feel our forwards don't backtrack enough when we do give up pucks in oppositions zone allowing for the amount of breakaways we always seem to have. We don't seem to have a solid stay at home D-man, but this alone wouldn't be enough for Broony to help his game. His confidence must be at an all time low. For me it's a 60/40% split between him & our d-men at fault. 60% being him not being good enough. Far too many easy goals he has allowed, he was never going to have shut outs every weekend but how many times has he let a puck get past him that should have been a routine save or a rebound puck straight to the opposition for them to slot home. The whole chemistry of the team is just rotten right now, looks more like a team of individuals rather than a team that are playing well as a unit. I could also keep going on about the systems & formations that is being asked of them but everyone (should) knows how bad that is!
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ted
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Post by ted on Oct 20, 2015 21:49:55 GMT
Is it also true, that he doesn't stay in Scotland, travels around 5 hours up for training and back and also travels up for the games, making every game he plays a Road game.
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Post by joestoyanovich on Oct 20, 2015 21:53:00 GMT
I don't know if he's a good goalie or not but he's to jumpy. jittery and flappy for me.
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Post by Billkmc on Oct 20, 2015 22:15:15 GMT
Is it also true, that he doesn't stay in Scotland, travels around 5 hours up for training and back and also travels up for the games, making every game he plays a Road game. No it's not true, he lives in Kirkcaldy and does most of his course work online he only needs to travel down to uni a couple of times a month. It has been mentioned a couple of times in interviews he's done.
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Post by zamboni on Oct 21, 2015 8:20:32 GMT
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Post by happydaysdancer on Oct 21, 2015 8:32:19 GMT
We would need to gas another import as well to get this guy- Brown is a euro passport holder so if he is being replaced (which remains to be seen) then it needs to be another euro passport holder unless they gas an import and get a euro in that position instead. Doesn't help matters.
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Post by zamboni on Oct 21, 2015 9:00:11 GMT
We would need to gas another import as well to get this guy- Brown is a euro passport holder so if he is being replaced (which remains to be seen) then it needs to be another euro passport holder unless they gas an import and get a euro in that position instead. Doesn't help matters. Yes indeed I reserved judgement till I saw the product on the ice How many goals have we lost in first few minutes of a game? Real confidence killers I was at the 2-1 loss at Dundee,29 seconds in Clarkson couldn't believe his luck. If we are going to salvage anything from this season action is required now unlikely that there will be coaching changes, but a change between the pipes and an Enforcer the bare minimum with the added complication of current keeper being a dual passport holder, which can affect three players. Chris Lawrence would have been a good pick up but he could have earned a spot with Steelers for rest of the season following last weekend. Its a mess right now with psychological damage to players when fans are booing at them, Manchester away and Clan at home this weekend Clan with only the game against us this weekend. Anybody wanting to put £10 on a 4 point weekend? Fife Flyers Management will hopefully have implemented Plan B..........
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Post by waterboy on Oct 21, 2015 10:40:44 GMT
The issue for me is that Brown is a good goalie but Flyers need an excellent one. Well I say good that's when he is on his game, when is isn't on its anything but good. Saturdays game being a example of the not so good.
Take Kevin Regan- outstanding positional play always square to the shooter reads the game very well looks calm and controlled in the net. He played with what looked like minimal effort.
Brown is pretty much the exact opposite off that, he looks in a panic whenever the puck is around his goal. To make matters worse and many have spoke about it this his rebound control is terrible. Its not that he gives up rebounds so much as its where they go that's were the control comes in. His rebounds land right in front and forwards crashing the net get easy goals. Defencemen cant see that happening until its to late. The rebounds should go into the corners or at least to the side of the net not right out into the slot. At the EIHL level we will get punished for that every game.
The guys on the Murdoch and frame podcast talked about it and one mentioned about NHL goalies giving off rebounds, trust me no keeper giving out rebounds like that would be in the show for very long.
Short answer he was an easy signing to make during the summer when he became available unfortunately his play hasn't been consistent. So with Todd's systems choking the life out of the team any and every mistake that brown makes is highlighted more than ever.
This video sums it up better than I can.
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Post by zamboni on Oct 21, 2015 13:11:39 GMT
If you look at the 4 goals Dundee scored on Saturday everyone of them should have been stopped by an EIHL standard Goalie Douglas would have done better on Saturday. You have to ask what was the plan prior to Hull folding? was it Pitton coming back or with Brown having Dual passport was this to good to overlook allowing 11 North America/American players and Paddy Cullen on the roster, good plan if it all knitted in to success
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