pittsburghpingu17
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: Pittsburgh Penguins
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Post by pittsburghpingu17 on Oct 24, 2015 12:41:38 GMT
I'm voting No. Now if the question was do we need new owners, the answer would be very different. So you'd be happy with Todd and Danny, just under a different owner?...
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Post by langtouner on Oct 24, 2015 16:26:06 GMT
I'm voting No. Now if the question was do we need new owners, the answer would be very different. So you'd be happy with Todd and Danny, just under a different owner?... Don't know if "happy" is the right word, but I would like to see how they get on with a full roster of full time players with no passengers, which given our average crowd size compared to others should be possible. People are complaining at what have we achieved compared to others in the past five years. If you compare using crowd figures we have underperformed big time, but if you use quality of roster, training time on the ice, overall professionalism (most of which is down to owners) I don't think we have underperformed. An example would be almost no points from first five games every year, due to late arrivals and lack of fitness. If we had taken even four points during the past two years we would have finished comfortably seventh maybe even sixth. When Regan was injured look who we brought in? Lost every game with the replacements. These are not coaching issues but resource issues. Sure signing policy this season was wrong. First signing should have been a marquee goalie, (I heard Flyers were close to signing Holt but Braehead offered a LOT more money) second and third signings should have been tough guys, (this is wher coaches are most culpable) but how much do resources play into this, "but Flyers pay imports well" says who, and even if that is true what about paying the Brits? Imports will never be able to do it all. Basically what I am saying is that coaches got signings wrong and are largely responsible for where Flyers currently are but so are owners, probably more so. Changing coaches might appease many, but personally I don't think it would make too much of a difference, given the overall resources made available. Just my opinion of course.
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hanz
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Post by hanz on Oct 24, 2015 16:41:34 GMT
YES! we need new owners , And new coaches
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watcher
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Posts: 710
EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: Vancouver Canucks
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Post by watcher on Oct 24, 2015 18:15:09 GMT
So you'd be happy with Todd and Danny, just under a different owner?... Don't know if "happy" is the right word, but I would like to see how they get on with a full roster of full time players with no passengers, which given our average crowd size compared to others should be possible. People are complaining at what have we achieved compared to others in the past five years. If you compare using crowd figures we have underperformed big time, but if you use quality of roster, training time on the ice, overall professionalism (most of which is down to owners) I don't think we have underperformed. An example would be almost no points from first five games every year, due to late arrivals and lack of fitness. If we had taken even four points during the past two years we would have finished comfortably seventh maybe even sixth. When Regan was injured look who we brought in? Lost every game with the replacements. These are not coaching issues but resource issues. Sure signing policy this season was wrong. First signing should have been a marquee goalie, (I heard Flyers were close to signing Holt but Braehead offered a LOT more money) second and third signings should have been tough guys, (this is wher coaches are most culpable) but how much do resources play into this, "but Flyers pay imports well" says who, and even if that is true what about paying the Brits? Imports will never be able to do it all. Basically what I am saying is that coaches got signings wrong and are largely responsible for where Flyers currently are but so are owners, probably more so. Changing coaches might appease many, but personally I don't think it would make too much of a difference, given the overall resources made available. Just my opinion of course. Owners do not sign the players - coaches sign the players. Given a budget to work with and they have not signed many duds overall in the past 4 years. This years squad has a decent set of players albeit with some elements missing and a suspect keeper signed early in the process. Coaches put into place systems based round the strengths of the players THEY have signed. Now, you tell me, has our coaching staff shown any signs that they can come up with these systems over the past 4 years or displayed any signs that they can motivate and adapt to suit the circumstances? For me the answer is a resounding "NO" and that is why changes need to be made.
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g
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Post by g on Oct 24, 2015 18:28:42 GMT
Definitely think it's time for a new head coach and I'm staying away meantime. More to do with with boring games and lack of excitement than the fact they are losing. Also angry the way the sycophants attached to the club use social media to belittle fans with a different point of view to them - we are still fans that want success but love the club more than Todd.
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spudeeelad
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EIHL Team: Manchester Storm
NHL Team: Tampa Bay Lightning
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Post by spudeeelad on Oct 25, 2015 14:41:38 GMT
I thought it was quite shocking that last night there was barely a blink when a Storm player clashed with your goalie. Nobody should be allowed to touch the goalie without a borderline riot.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Oct 25, 2015 14:58:50 GMT
I thought it was quite shocking that last night there was barely a blink when a Storm player clashed with your goalie. Nobody should be allowed to touch the goalie without a borderline riot. That's this season's flyers "toughness" apparently, it's really yawn hockey
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