gmac
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Post by gmac on Nov 7, 2015 12:22:15 GMT
Don't have a problem with a few tunes from the dj, normally sound level is fine in section B but last week was loud, struggled to hear the missus at times (silver linings lol ) This week will be fine 'cos the TV camera's are there, The first time our sound system blasts the lugs off the premier sports sound guy it'll get turned down lol
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Post by jonathan on Nov 7, 2015 21:50:18 GMT
Quite a few comments on Premier Sports about the loud music.
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tam
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Post by tam on Nov 7, 2015 22:40:10 GMT
still loud at times but definite improvement tonight, you could actually hear him turn it down at times
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drwho
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Post by drwho on Nov 8, 2015 14:14:10 GMT
Yet he says that general concensus last night was volume was bang on apart from bar end which needs to be LOUDER.
Still too loud for my liking. And re watching the game recorded on premier. It was definitely too loud And the cheese content factor. Let's not start on that
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Post by thebear on Nov 9, 2015 7:31:44 GMT
DJ actually started of "OK" on saturday, music volume was turned down a bit and didn't drown out our chants
But nothing good lasts forever, music volume crept back up and started his make some noise demands again
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Post by forgetfuldan on Nov 9, 2015 15:39:31 GMT
I don't think Saturday was the best game for him to run his experiment at, we had Premier Sports in the barn, of course he was going to be mindful of them there and not burst their ear drums. He should run his experiment on a normal, non-tv week then he'd get meaningful feedback.
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Post by colin99 on Nov 10, 2015 12:56:30 GMT
I'm not there often because of location and work. On the two occasions I've been in The Ice Rink this year the volume has registered as 105dBA in Block H. The app I use isn't terribly accurate at high levels but it's close enough. I'd say it was above 100dBA most of the time. I certainly was aware of the effect on my ears when I came out. There is no need for this level of sound. It's a social event and it's about talking about the game during the breaks in play and meeting people. It's also about supporting the team and, heaven forbid, expressing our discontent when things are not as they should be. I'm not commenting on the content. Perhaps it might be worth getting a petition together on the volume issue? Scrap that; they won't pay any attention. On a historical note, I can remember when Thin Lizzy played in The Ice Rink I could recognise songs from the Gallatown Park in 1981. As a poor student at the time I couldn't afford the £5 ticket. Perhaps that saved me from permanent hearing damage. If the noise level is close as to what you have measured, then the rink have the obligation to turn down the volume. the HSE and the RNID (Royal national institution for deafness) determine that people should be able to have a conversation when they are standing 2m apart and not have the need to shout at each other. excerpt from the HSE website. An action level is basically a noise exposure level at which employers are required to take certain steps to reduce the harmful effects of noise on hearing. There are two main action levels for continuous Noise:
The lower exposure action value is a daily or weekly average noise exposure level of 80 dB, at which the employer has to provide information and training and make hearing protection available.
The upper exposure action value is set at a daily or weekly average noise exposure of 85 dB, above which the employer is required to take reasonably practicable measures to reduce noise exposure, such as engineering controls or other technical measures. The use of hearing protection is also mandatory if the noise cannot be controlled by these measures, or while these measures are being planned or carried out.
Finally there is an exposure limit value of 87 dB, above which no worker can be exposed (taking hearing protection into account).
So if the DJ insists on playing music and screaming at that level. he could be inline for a noise abatement order. not just from the fans but also the staff at the rink and possibly from people outside the rink. Some examples of average decibel levels of common noises: 20 dB (A) A quiet room at night 60 dB (A) Ordinary spoken conversation 70 dB (A) City street 80 dB (A) DANGER LEVEL 100 dB (A) Pneumatic drill 100 dB (A) Maximum volume on some mp3 players 110 dB (A) Night club 115 dB (A) Rock concert 120 dB (A) Aeroplane taking off 150 dB (A) The Flyers DJ Ok i put the last one in, But if he keeps on going they way he is, then it will be ear plugs all round. I watched the match on saturday evening on Premier sports, and all i could hear in the background was the PA system and his shouting. The premier sports commentators made a comment at the end of the show that they had watched a good game of hockey from a very loud fife ice arena. yet if you look over thier shoulders you can clearly see that the majority of the fans had left and that the seats were empty. so that only meant one thing the PA system was way to loud.
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Post by beanster on Nov 10, 2015 13:00:52 GMT
Yet he says that general concensus last night was volume was bang on apart from bar end which needs to be LOUDER. Still too loud for my liking. And re watching the game recorded on premier. It was definitely too loud And the cheese content factor. Let's not start on that volume was bang on apart from bar end which needs to be LOUDER. I sit at bar end and that is rubbish - Not only far too loud - Can't have a conversation with adjacent punters. the noise is so badly distorted that you can't understand what is being said anyway !!
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Post by nobabody on Nov 10, 2015 14:21:12 GMT
I don't think Saturday was the best game for him to run his experiment at, we had Premier Sports in the barn, of course he was going to be mindful of them there and not burst their ear drums. He should run his experiment on a normal, non-tv week then he'd get meaningful feedback. what was the experiment?
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Post by nobabody on Nov 10, 2015 14:23:37 GMT
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Post by coloradoflyer on Nov 10, 2015 15:14:26 GMT
watch the highlights murph stops talking when dave is announcing dingle the first goal it's that loud
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Post by ojc123 on Nov 10, 2015 15:39:10 GMT
If anyone cares enough to measure the volume and have evidence then there are quite a few free sound level apps on Google Play (and iThings too I suppose.) They won't be perfect but they'll give you an idea. They typically use the A weighting for this kind of work if your app has the choice. I use a paid for app because I need other information but for simple volume most of the free apps should be ok.
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tam
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Post by tam on Nov 10, 2015 16:40:18 GMT
the sound meter on my iphone showed average 88db with a peak of 94 in section A, free app no idea how accurate, only did it for my own interest on saturday
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Post by forgetfuldan on Nov 10, 2015 18:03:40 GMT
I don't think Saturday was the best game for him to run his experiment at, we had Premier Sports in the barn, of course he was going to be mindful of them there and not burst their ear drums. He should run his experiment on a normal, non-tv week then he'd get meaningful feedback. what was the experiment? He was asking people to DM from their seat which section they were in and how they found the sound levels.
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g
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Post by g on Nov 10, 2015 18:10:26 GMT
the sound meter on my iphone showed average 88db with a peak of 94 in section A, free app no idea how accurate, only did it for my own interest on saturday That's quite a range, the way sound is measured means a rise of 4dB is double the acoustic energy and 94 definitely not good for the ears for any length of time. I have hearing problems and always find it too loud with or without my hearing aid. Only since this DJ took over though, other rinks are fine.
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