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Post by mtsparky69 on Dec 22, 2015 11:22:47 GMT
Don't see why people keep banging on about enforcers. Nickerson, janssen, the donkey from Sunday emmo Fitzy the list goes on, all ineffective. Flyers played the donkey the right way on Sunday and made him look like an idiot. Like I've said before the nhl are getting rid of the enforcers and it's the skilled teams who sit up top of the nhl. We had nickerson last year and it didn't work so seems a bit lame to go back to it.
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 22, 2015 11:28:33 GMT
Don't see why people keep banging on about enforcers. Nickerson, janssen, the donkey from Sunday emmo Fitzy the list goes on, all ineffective. Flyers played the donkey the right way on Sunday and made him look like an idiot. Like I've said before the nhl are getting rid of the enforcers and it's the skilled teams who sit up top of the nhl. We had nickerson last year and it didn't work so seems a bit lame to go back to it. A guy that could lay a hit would be handy instead of people like Stockton who are scared of their own shadow
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Post by redtussell44 on Dec 22, 2015 11:30:35 GMT
Don't see why people keep banging on about enforcers. Nickerson, janssen, the donkey from Sunday emmo Fitzy the list goes on, all ineffective. Flyers played the donkey the right way on Sunday and made him look like an idiot. Like I've said before the nhl are getting rid of the enforcers and it's the skilled teams who sit up top of the nhl. We had nickerson last year and it didn't work so seems a bit lame to go back to it. Haha sooo you prefer this years flyers to last year do you? Why don't you ask Marsh if he'll deliver another headshot to a panther ever again after Janssen dealt with that situation. We had Dorr out for 3 weeks due to a head shot from Bigos. Did any flyers players deal with that situation? Nope. If you don't think we need an enforcer, or even a power forward who will hit anything that moves to regain the puck... Then you're part of the problem.
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Post by Mike on Dec 22, 2015 11:30:58 GMT
Mo must've gave Todd his playbook for Christmas. What a terrible thing that'd be. That guy hardly won anything...
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Post by redtussell44 on Dec 22, 2015 11:35:35 GMT
Mo must've gave Todd his playbook for Christmas. What a terrible thing that'd be. That guy hardly won anything... Different league now pal, we also had a plethora of good Brits back then.
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Post by waterboy on Dec 22, 2015 12:02:17 GMT
Mo must've gave Todd his playbook for Christmas. What a terrible thing that'd be. That guy hardly won anything... Mo's record as coach we all know, but it was in a different league 10 years ago. The BNL and the EIHL are not the same but we had a mixture of skill and team toughness in the BNL. Kuznik Spadafora Biette and Morris could step up and be physical or fight if required. Kuznik destroying Nathan Rempel is still in peoples memory from that time. As it stands we don't have a player anything close to being able to do that this season. Rioux Delahey Paquet have all attempted it and came off worse for the experience, don't tell me that doesn't have an effect in the room when the entire team know they don't have someone covering their backs. If we had say Fitzgerald do you not think the rest of the team play bigger. It was proven last season when we didn't have Matt in the line up time after time. Which is why I and others said we need more than one guy capable of stepping up when required. Todd has always been determined to not sign players like that. He has gotten recruitment wrong before, he has done it again this season. Guess he forgets he had teammates who could back him up back in the good old BNL. It's been just great watching our team bullied out of games this year eh.
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Post by waterboy on Dec 22, 2015 12:03:33 GMT
What a terrible thing that'd be. That guy hardly won anything... Different league now pal, we also had a plethora of good Brits back then. We had a some of the best brits in the league back then.
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Post by redtussell44 on Dec 22, 2015 12:28:35 GMT
What a terrible thing that'd be. That guy hardly won anything... Mo's record as coach we all know, but it was in a different league 10 years ago. The BNL and the EIHL are not the same but we had a mixture of skill and team toughness in the BNL. Kuznik Spadafora Biette and Morris could step up and be physical or fight if required. Kuznik destroying Nathan Rempel is still in peoples memory from that time. As it stands we don't have a player anything close to being able to do that this season. Rioux Delahey Paquet have all attempted it and came off worse for the experience, don't tell me that doesn't have an effect in the room when the entire team know they don't have someone covering their backs. If we had say Fitzgerald do you not think the rest of the team play bigger. It was proven last season when we didn't have Matt in the line up time after time. Which is why I and others said we need more than one guy capable of stepping up when required. Todd has always has been determined not sign players like that. He has gotten recruitment wrong before, he has done it again this season. Guess he forgets he had teammates who could back him up back in the good old BNL. It's been just great watching our team bullied out of games this year eh. Couldn't have said it better myself pal
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Post by redtussell44 on Dec 22, 2015 12:34:05 GMT
Different league now pal, we also had a plethora of good Brits back then. We had a some of the best brits in the league back then. Our Brits were first line back then. Steven King was the first British sportsman, not just hockey player, sportsman to be sponsored by NIKE. That was a major deal back then. You're lucky if the Brits this year get Nike trainers for their Christmas.
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Post by mtsparky69 on Dec 22, 2015 13:06:04 GMT
Ooooh aaaah I'm part of the problem! Ah well each to their own. Think there have been many teams who have lost players to injury with bad hits and will continue to do so even with enforcers. Sunday night was a prime example where guys could have stepped up and fought but in the end it backfired for storm as they were the ones taking the daft pens and lost the game due to it. They were a better team without their "enforcer"
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Post by fifeflyer11 on Dec 22, 2015 13:32:21 GMT
Good signing happy with this. Forget the enforcer we don't have one this season and wont come the end of the season just forget it and get behind the team
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Post by waterboy on Dec 22, 2015 14:14:19 GMT
Ooooh aaaah I'm part of the problem! Ah well each to their own. Think there have been many teams who have lost players to injury with bad hits and will continue to do so even with enforcers. Sunday night was a prime example where guys could have stepped up and fought but in the end it backfired for storm as they were the ones taking the daft pens and lost the game due to it. They were a better team without their "enforcer" Exactly when did anyone say you were the problem? I think we have missed a massive chance this year to kick on with building our home support, in actual fact we have gone backwards. Season ticket holders are not returning or are choosing to miss games because its been so boring to watch. You could look short term and say who cares the club has their money. Wonder how long that works when next season comes rolling around. Fifers have shown they will turn up on mass for flyers teams that can excite and produce great hockey to watch. Our games against Braehead a few season ago were almost standing room only. We didn't kick on from that and despite a last season being so poor fans still turned up in big numbers in the early part of this season. The crowd numbers have been in decline after the first month. Sheffield at home and less the 1800 in FIA, that's not good. The point of this rant - Recruitment its been poor at best. That's not a knock on any single player because as individuals they are good players but as a team they just are not good enough. Far to many guys of the same style. We were promised a far more gritty team this season yet not one of our new guys had anything in their CV's to suggest gritty tough play. Nico Sacchetti while undoubtedly a very good player when he was last here isn't the answer he is another copy of the same style we have in abundance and one by all accounts that has missed a year through injury. Looks like we are taking a gamble that he is the same player the Stars had. We are missing the physical guy the Adam Keefe, Karry Biette type. Heart on his sleeve guy that gets the crowd into the game and takes the team on his back when the games get really chippy. Danny does try to fill that role but he wasn't even that guy on the Blaze or the Vipers. He always had one or two bigger fighters in those teams with him. Imagine how different our team would be if you removed Stockton Dorr and Paquet and replaced them with guys from around the league - Salters Desbiens and McIver 3 very good players but guys who can stand their ground with anyone in the league but are here to play hockey first. Just like Jason Pitton did for us, his reputation as good fighter at the AHL level came with him yet he only dropped the gloves 5 times in 50 games. Just because guys can be enforcers doesn't mean they cant be good hockey players at this level. Salters being probably the best example of that. That's what we need good players who can defend teammates and themselves when required not as you put it the donkeys. I would argue against anyone who would say that isn't a far better team and one that would be far more exciting to watch.
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 22, 2015 14:53:31 GMT
Our best line in my opinion in the 5 seasons so far was Pitton Haines and Chaumont, I would imagine points wise that's our most productive and for a lot of people was the best to watch, 1 of the best line in the season that year, so why has that "coach" of ours not at least tried to replicate that style wise, Pitton was massive for us, we have been missing a line that has chemistry like that to compete against the physical teams, all it takes is 1 or 2 big strong guys that can if need be handle themselve, makes a massive difference, but no Todd knows best... Apart from the fact that he doesn't because he's blind and completely incompetent.
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Post by zamboni on Dec 22, 2015 15:12:21 GMT
I agree we need a player like Desbiens/Salters guys that can control the red mist however these guys can pick and choose where they go as there is not a lot of them around, will Fife look attractive to them last 4 years bottom half of League scraping the playoffs and 1 Play off Finals weekend. Todd said in interviews that he wasn't brining in an Enforcer type is that because we couldn't attract the right guy, who knows Matt was undoubtedly a crowd pleaser and I enjoyed watching Matt but he sat out 23 games in two seasons due to suspension that is not sustainable by any club, you can also argue that Braehead lost the title last year due to antics of Fitzgerald and Frank, these guys come with a risk warning. We have been in most games this season and it looks like Broony and our D have turned a corner brining in Sacchetti will hopefully spark our forwards in to better scoring form, the next 6 weeks might see more changes if it doesn't. It will be good to see a packed out Barn over festive period and all fans getting behind the team
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 22, 2015 15:17:57 GMT
Packed out, haha good Luck with that, hundreds have gave up with more to follow
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