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Post by RedBird on Dec 22, 2015 20:14:05 GMT
The dross I'm watching finished above this apparent exciting Capitals team in the Challenge Cup and are currently above them in both league and conference. So the dross are actually winning more games...strange eh Hahaha you trying to get a bite by slating the caps? All you just said, I celebrated with you. I don't care if the caps win or lose, all I want is to watch a good hockey game, not dump and chase with zero forecheck. Certainly not trying to get a bite, just stating that exciting hockey as some see it doesn't always bring results. I'd rather my team be winning points than playing exciting and losing more. Yes in a perfect world we would get both but hey we are in Fife
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Post by icysmith on Dec 22, 2015 20:43:08 GMT
Am hearing a rumour Rawlyk will be following the new signing in the door soon.
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 22, 2015 20:45:30 GMT
Hahaha you trying to get a bite by slating the caps? All you just said, I celebrated with you. I don't care if the caps win or lose, all I want is to watch a good hockey game, not dump and chase with zero forecheck. Certainly not trying to get a bite, just stating that exciting hockey as some see it doesn't always bring results. I'd rather my team be winning points than playing exciting and losing more. Yes in a perfect world we would get both but hey we are in Fife It'd be different if we were watching dull tedious hockey and competing for something but come the end of the season we won't come close to a trophy as usual and probably neither will the caps, but if their fans have a season of exciting hockey and end up a position below us.... What would you prefer. If not been to watch other teams by the way but I can see his point, and it's a worrying point because he won't be alone, and I'm not alone in staying away from the rink..
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Post by langtouner on Dec 22, 2015 20:45:31 GMT
I agree we need a player like Desbiens/Salters guys that can control the red mist however these guys can pick and choose where they go as there is not a lot of them around, will Fife look attractive to them last 4 years bottom half of League scraping the playoffs and 1 Play off Finals weekend. Todd said in interviews that he wasn't brining in an Enforcer type is that because we couldn't attract the right guy, who knows Matt was undoubtedly a crowd pleaser and I enjoyed watching Matt but he sat out 23 games in two seasons due to suspension that is not sustainable by any club, you can also argue that Braehead lost the title last year due to antics of Fitzgerald and Frank, these guys come with a risk warning. We have been in most games this season and it looks like Broony and our D have turned a corner brining in Sacchetti will hopefully spark our forwards in to better scoring form, the next 6 weeks might see more changes if it doesn't. It will be good to see a packed out Barn over festive period and all fans getting behind the team I think you have hit the nail on the head with the 23 game suspensions. This has created a prejudice in Todd's view against this sort of player. However as we are bullied on the ice this season we were/are also "bullied"off it as we are one of the wee teams. One of Nickers' bans was twelve matches reduced to nine which was completely farcical and would not happen under the new DOPS regime. Just look at Marsh only getting two. What also has to be considered is that he was the only enforcer so always has to step up on his own. We need two tough guys to spread the load as happens in Cardiff, Belfast, Sheffield, and so on. Bottom line is we need two tough guys and until that happens crowd's will not be great. Despite Todd having been in Kdy for so long, he has misjudged or doesn't know what the paying public want to see. What they don't want to see is bland grind it out hockey and guys backing down from the likes of Fitzgerald.
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 22, 2015 20:47:05 GMT
#Toddout
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Post by RedBird on Dec 22, 2015 20:55:26 GMT
Certainly not trying to get a bite, just stating that exciting hockey as some see it doesn't always bring results. I'd rather my team be winning points than playing exciting and losing more. Yes in a perfect world we would get both but hey we are in Fife It'd be different if we were watching dull tedious hockey and competing for something but come the end of the season we won't come close to a trophy as usual and probably neither will the caps, but if their fans have a season of exciting hockey and end up a position below us.... What would you prefer. If not been to watch other teams by the way but I can see his point, and it's a worrying point because he won't be alone, and I'm not alone in staying away from the rink.. I'd prefer to watch my team win games over playing exciting hockey and getting beat. I agree we will likely end up without any silverware just like Edinburgh but I do think I will see my team win more games than Edinburgh fans will see from their team. For those staying away, if we started playing a style like Edinburgh but lost more games would you return and pay £16 to watch that?
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 22, 2015 21:02:41 GMT
It'd be different if we were watching dull tedious hockey and competing for something but come the end of the season we won't come close to a trophy as usual and probably neither will the caps, but if their fans have a season of exciting hockey and end up a position below us.... What would you prefer. If not been to watch other teams by the way but I can see his point, and it's a worrying point because he won't be alone, and I'm not alone in staying away from the rink.. I'd prefer to watch my team win games over playing exciting hockey and getting beat. I agree we will likely end up without any silverware just like Edinburgh but I do think I will see my team win more games than Edinburgh fans will see from their team. For those staying away, if we started playing a style like Edinburgh but lost more games would you return and pay £16 to watch that? Can only speak for myself but I have only missed a handful of games for us in Scotland since joining the elite, we've finished last and 8th most years, this year I have been to only a handful of games.. Again I'm not alone, so for me yeah I'd rather have some sort of entertainment and finish 7th/8th than watch this c*** and finish 6th/7th
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Post by zamboni on Dec 22, 2015 21:18:59 GMT
I want to see my team win Personally the Premier Sports game v Caps was not a good advert for this League The Caps were very poor that night, but if that's what you want to watch... The home games against Panthers and Storm were decent games The trouble for some of the stay away guys is they are getting things second hand and not seeing it for themselves Hence the lack of balanced view... Folks are obviously on holiday now as the Forum has heat up today
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Post by zamboni on Dec 22, 2015 21:21:31 GMT
Am hearing a rumour Rawlyk will be following the new signing in the door soon. Via Bystander per chance?
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Post by finchy on Dec 22, 2015 22:31:45 GMT
I'd prefer to watch my team win games over playing exciting hockey and getting beat. I agree we will likely end up without any silverware just like Edinburgh but I do think I will see my team win more games than Edinburgh fans will see from their team. For those staying away, if we started playing a style like Edinburgh but lost more games would you return and pay £16 to watch that? Can only speak for myself but I have only missed a handful of games for us in Scotland since joining the elite, we've finished last and 8th most years, this year I have been to only a handful of games.. Again I'm not alone, so for me yeah I'd rather have some sort of entertainment and finish 7th/8th than watch this c*** and finish 6th/7th Let's be honest here though- if Flyers were shipping the goals Caps are and losing by such huge margins this place would be in absolute uproar. We'd be talking about shambolic performances and naive coaching. I don't think any knowledgeable Flyers fan is happy with what we're watching now but the point some of us are making here is that boasting about travelling across the Forth to watch a defensive shambles like Edinburgh INSTEAD of going to the Flyers is just bizarre behaviour for a sports fan of any kind. I totally get why people find this season's 'style' unpalatable. We've been brought up on free flowing teams with maverick forwards and rushing defencemen- we're also used to Flyers traditionally challenging for silverware. It's difficult to watch- it's difficult to understand how teams on lower budgets have better squads. It's difficult to understand why Todd signs the same Brits year after year and never ices them. But.... we're Flyers fans at the end of the day. The arguments as to whether Caps or whoever are more entertaining are totally irrelevant to me- they're not our team. If people get turned on by attending British hockey matches as a neutral that's up to them- I just don't get it if it's INSTEAD of watching your local team. This season is now about what we can salvage from it- we need to accept that nothing dramatic is going to happen to make us the team we all want to watch. I want us to make the play-offs and have that wee glimmer that we MIGHT pull of a miracle- better than not being there at all. Today we signed a previously top EIHL player and have 14 imports on the books. Is it really a day for the sort of negativity we've seen today? I'm not a happy clapper but perspective is needed. Sachetti will make us more watchable and hopefully bring out more in guys like TJ- there's nothing to be negative about regarding this move.
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Post by zamboni on Dec 22, 2015 22:44:19 GMT
100% agree Two seasons ago I attended every away game at DIA (the last game being the best that sent us to the NIC) Every time you seen Sacchetti heading towards our goal you had that sinking feeling I also wished he was our player along with Rawlyk He is now a Flyer so hopefully he will be a breath of fresh air
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Post by jambitink on Dec 23, 2015 10:38:30 GMT
I'm happy the bridge has reopened so I can go watch the caps instead. I've seen them play the Panthers and Steelers, very entertaining hockey regardless of the score. I find this attitude really strange and would suggest you are not a Fife Flyers supporter. We may not be overly exciting to watch and yes I would like a different coach, players and style of play but at the end of the day Flyers are still my team and no way would I pick to go watch another team over my own. Missing the Flyers to watch an exciting hockey game elsewhere is no different to people staying home to watch the NHL instead. Some people actually love the game of hockey and with the prices they charge for games these days people want to be entertained and get value for money. The Flyers is anything but value for money from the on ice product to the DJ, its become a farce. In my honest opinion Murrayfield now delivers a better hockey night experience than FIA.
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Post by RedBird on Dec 23, 2015 10:57:14 GMT
I find this attitude really strange and would suggest you are not a Fife Flyers supporter. We may not be overly exciting to watch and yes I would like a different coach, players and style of play but at the end of the day Flyers are still my team and no way would I pick to go watch another team over my own. Missing the Flyers to watch an exciting hockey game elsewhere is no different to people staying home to watch the NHL instead. Some people actually love the game of hockey and with the prices they charge for games these days people want to be entertained and get value for money. The Flyers is anything but value for money from the on ice product to the DJ, its become a farce. In my honest opinion Murrayfield now delivers a better hockey night experience than FIA. Stopping watching your own team to travel and watch your nearest rival is totally different from sitting in the house and watching games from the NHL in my opinion. I really don't want to compare this to football but its like saying Celtic fans who are not amused with the current manager and style of play will start to go and watch Rangers...its a crazy thought. As for Edinburgh being a better match night experience and value for money. I haven't been as a neutral but I'm not convinced that the extra ticket price, travel costs and sitting amongst a very low crowd can really make it a better than FIA. Can you honestly say that watching Edinburgh or the away team scoring a goal gives you the same thrill that you get when Flyers score?
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Post by icysmith on Dec 23, 2015 12:15:27 GMT
Am hearing a rumour Rawlyk will be following the new signing in the door soon. Via Bystander per chance? Spare me the indignity puh-lease Nope, just a rumour from Dundee fans.
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Post by finchy on Dec 23, 2015 12:33:44 GMT
I find this attitude really strange and would suggest you are not a Fife Flyers supporter. We may not be overly exciting to watch and yes I would like a different coach, players and style of play but at the end of the day Flyers are still my team and no way would I pick to go watch another team over my own. Missing the Flyers to watch an exciting hockey game elsewhere is no different to people staying home to watch the NHL instead. Some people actually love the game of hockey and with the prices they charge for games these days people want to be entertained and get value for money. The Flyers is anything but value for money from the on ice product to the DJ, its become a farce. In my honest opinion Murrayfield now delivers a better hockey night experience than FIA. Oh my God- it's taken me nearly 40 years to see it but someone has actually just compared going to MIA with watching an NHL game. Christmas spirit kicked in a bit early aye? So you're one of the Flyers fans going to MIA instead are you? Don't think so! What an embarrassing thread this is becoming. Imagine other fans looking at this and seeing Flyers 'fans' argue about whether they'd rather watch their own team or Edinburgh! Cringey stuff.
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