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Post by langtouner on Feb 11, 2016 15:54:00 GMT
Why did I vote to keep Todd,simple can't think of enough reasons to get rid of him .why? Don't think we r going backwards ,r we as good as braehead and Dundee .yes beat serious title challengers for the 5th time on Sunday and not far off Belfast ..the enforcer argument.i know for a fact they thought they had one signed then at the last minute got a text to say he signed for another team..do I think he will have one or two next year .definitely ......we r lying 7th ,should we b higher,of course and would have been if we hadn't lost silly points (esp the 5-4 game against caps). Is Todd to blame ??partly but most must fall in the players...and just to add I don't want to finish 6th or higher now..I want braehead,why cos I don't think they're better than us even though they might win the league Lot of good and valid points. I have never called for his removal with the main reason being I believe he is having to work with very limited resources. You need to look no further than how much we pay our Brits, and the quality of our Brits compared to other teams. I also think it is a pointless debate because TM would never pay the money to attract someone with a coaching pedigree, and I also don't believe that a proven coach would work for TM. On the coaching side I have three main issues with Todd. First being dump and chase style. Having said that since Sacchetti arrived we have been playing the puck into the zone much more often and to good effect. Second, the lack of consistency. As good as we have been the last few weeks we were as bad from Oct to Dec. This level of inconsistency has plagued us for at least the last three seasons. This has to be the responsibility of the coach who should have the man management skills to get a more consistent level of performance from the players. The third one is the lack of physicality. I don't think he likes having to resort to this sort of thing but if you are right about someone being lined up then going elsewhere we are back to the resource issue. Having said all that, this season may be the most successful in the Elite League despite some real shocking home displays, and 5th is a real possibility especially having to play a struggling Belfast three more times. It would be difficult to argue that a 5th or even 6th place finish is not progress.
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Post by bobdee on Feb 11, 2016 17:51:16 GMT
Completely agree Langtouner about the ice hockey points you make. The dump and chase style and sheer inconsistency shown during the season. The coach should have had he man management skills to have worked on that and even have been able to adapt during a game. (Losing 4 goal and 3 goal leads) really? At least we were fairly consistent at that. The arrival of Sacchetti has been a revelation as far as I am concerned and has changed the style of the team thankfully. How long have we railed against the dump and chase style to no avail? the resources aspect we really don't know how much funds are available and are not really in a position to make claims or counterclaims. Equally the defender lined up and going somewhere else, how factual is that? We don't really know and therefore the majority of us cannot make comment. Is that claim fact or conjecture? I also think we may surprise where we finish in the league. We can also dream that we can do a Coventry of last year, and time the end of season run to perfection. Cups and titles are never won in Sept, Oct, Dec. End of season form is paramount.
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Post by lg1962 on Feb 11, 2016 18:23:39 GMT
100% true or wouldn't have posted it..don't know if it would have been right for us tho as prob would not have got sachet to..sacchetti has brought more success to us than the player I mentioned has brought to his team
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Post by bobdee on Feb 11, 2016 19:00:50 GMT
100% true or wouldn't have posted it..don't know if it would have been right for us tho as prob would not have got sachet to..sacchetti has brought more success to us than the player I mentioned has brought to his team Sacchetti has been manna from heaven for us so glad the other guy didn't come.
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Post by regdunlop on Feb 11, 2016 19:33:52 GMT
I don't usually like to be critical on here, i just don't believe in it online.Whatever happens,Todd will always be remembered as a fantastic servent to the club as a coach and player, his club as he's settled here. We're an established elite club now, my personal feeling is maybe Danny Stewart has paid his dues and should get his chance as head coach. I don't think he's anywhere near as diplomatic as Todd, but i think he'd be a better motivator and play a bit more of an aggressive style, which i think we need in this league to push on.
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Post by lg1962 on Feb 11, 2016 20:36:36 GMT
So would Danny b better,maybe maybe not.my fear is what if he's not..I wasnlike a lot of people at the start of the season..thought we needed an enforcer and was gutted when what was thought was a certain signing fell through..now seeing how we are playing now am kind of relieved he went to Sheffield..I also cursed as a lot of others did through our bad spell.would have been easy to blame Todd for it but a lot of it was through individual errors so had to give Todd the benefit of the doubt.are we doing reasonably well just now cos were playing his systems or is it cos were not .again giving him the benefit of the doubt and thinking we're playing his systems and they're maybe not as bad as we thought.so for these reasons I had to go with Todd should stay.
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Post by regdunlop on Feb 11, 2016 20:47:01 GMT
Danny got coaching experience in this league. Did a good job with newcastle the year they went bust. Think he got coach of the year?
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Post by fifeforlife on Feb 11, 2016 21:03:47 GMT
Danny got coaching experience in this league. Did a good job with newcastle the year they went bust. Think he got coach of the year? Agree with you.but if some think Todd has failed then I think Danny has to take some of the blame too.l see the team play well just now and scratch my head thinking why not the 1st half of the season and think would we have played better with another coach .then I look at how the other teams have fared and think only Cardiff have played well all season .so yeah am prepared to watch the team for another season under Todd.result might b the same but I pray not
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Post by finchy on Feb 11, 2016 22:08:25 GMT
As a good few folk have voted to keep Todd (which I am a bit stunned at) one thing I haven't seen much off if any is reasons behind this thinking. I don't see how the club will progress any further with him as the coach. Those that want him back, how about putting your points/reasons why up? Completely agree. These people must have valid reasons to keep Todd so let them be aired. A sensible discussion could possibly. be started. They may not just be resistant to change and against progress. Let's hear the reasons for no change please. How do you know changing the coach would be 'progress' though? I don't understand your suggestion that people wanting Todd to stay are automatically 'against progress'. Maybe they feel we are progressing as it is? It's a long season, I think all the non-arena teams will have ups and downs but surely the time to take stock is at the END of the season? As far as pro's for Todd staying- surely the current run of form would be something that speaks for itself? This thread was started a day or two after we'd just beaten Belfast and Braehead on consecutive nights which I thought was strange. Our form since then has been far from shabby either. Some of the early games were terrible but Sachetti's arrival has resulted in a cracking run of form. I think if we avoid Cardiff we're going to have a fighting chance of making the play-off weekend.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Mar 7, 2016 11:37:09 GMT
Can I change my mind please
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Post by joestoyanovich on Mar 7, 2016 11:50:31 GMT
I'd still make a change in coaches for next season.
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Post by g on Mar 7, 2016 15:13:07 GMT
Would still like to see a new coach next season. I don't know if the players find their own style mid season or if Todd's systems awkward to implement and take too long for players to adapt to but, personally, I don't like the dump/chase style or the poor early season form.
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Post by swarfiga on Mar 7, 2016 19:01:03 GMT
As great at this form has been lately, he's not the man to lead the club forward, too many mistakes in my opinion over the last 5 years.
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Post by zamboni on Mar 7, 2016 20:05:01 GMT
46 Forum ''fans'' have voted Todd out What does that equate to about 2% of our game attendance fan base Give the guy a break it cant be easy but progress has been made Go on the Clan Forum same old they want Finerty out Panthers fans want Cory out and Steelers want Tommo out Chuck Weber great coach won last years play-offs recruited his own team for this season Not the best of seasons Someone to blame its human nature all you can do is learn from mistakes Todd and Danny deserve to keep there jobs people are enjoying their hockey again we wont win everything but this is our best points tally and could be our best season yet
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Post by pittsburghpingu17 on Mar 7, 2016 21:31:22 GMT
46 Forum ''fans'' have voted Todd out What does that equate to about 2% of our game attendance fan base Give the guy a break it cant be easy but progress has been made Go on the Clan Forum same old they want Finerty out Panthers fans want Cory out and Steelers want Tommo out Chuck Weber great coach won last years play-offs recruited his own team for this season Not the best of seasons Someone to blame its human nature all you can do is learn from mistakes Todd and Danny deserve to keep there jobs people are enjoying their hockey again we wont win everything but this is our best points tally and could be our best season yet Only 12 fans have voted him in. That's even less of the fanbase. Why is "fans" in quotations anyway? Are we not aloud an opinion that's different without being called out for it? Happy clappers are the reason no changes ever get made. As much as I'm happy where we've ended up, I still think we could have still done it under a different coach.
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