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Post by waterboy on Apr 6, 2016 14:06:53 GMT
Folk are obviously seeing something I'm missing with regards Rioux because I thought he was poor defensively. Overall I thought he was excellent in keeping the puck while we exited our zone, he controlled the play more often than not when he was on the ice. I thought he was an excellent possession player which made a big difference to us. Top 5 in D scoring is not something to sniff at either. The one let down for me was his play in the past few weekends, he didn't play well in the quarter or the semi Finals. But take his performances over the season and I would be very happy to see him back. Needs a faster skating partner in the mould of Delahey though.
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Post by zamboni on Apr 6, 2016 14:59:36 GMT
We already are weeks/months behind other teams in signing players. Care to expand on your statement? How do you know this? Please don't say its the Fife way
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Post by bobdee on Apr 6, 2016 16:10:46 GMT
We already are weeks/months behind other teams in signing players. Care to expand on your statement? How do you know this? Please don't say its the Fife way I am not party to the 'inside' info that is offered in these forums. There are even differing versions of the 'inside info'! I and many others can only work on the facts available and on the forum for roster signings. against us, Fife Flyers there is no one. That to me makes us behind other teams, How much behind though I don't know. I will eventually come out in the wash and hearsay will become fact. How long that will be though is anyone's guess as well. Wait and see
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Post by waterboy on Apr 6, 2016 16:18:54 GMT
We already are weeks/months behind other teams in signing players. Care to expand on your statement? How do you know this? Please don't say its the Fife way Well what is said everytime player signings are discussed by the club/Todd. They will only announce something when they have it all in place. Todd said at the end of the game on Sunday: "we will do exit interviews on Tuesday" " we have a few guys retiring and a few moving on to different ventures" " we will give guys time to think because its amazing what a few weeks will do as far as wanting to come back". does that not indicate that we are behind other teams in regards to next year? He actually mentioned how things seem to be changing and that teams are signing and releasing PR on player signings before the season is done. The club haven't confirmed any plans for next season other than Danny is retiring from playing. So we need a new coach/player and going by Todd's statement we do know we will need more than a few new guys. Look at Dundee they have signed what 7 guys already. Including bringing in yet another young British player who they intend to develop and give icetime too. Have we done this or have we shown any intent to improve out British core for next season. Omar Pacha did an interview a few months back discussing how he is talking to players already for next season. Both he and Lefebvre have signed good British players one a GB U20 one a full GB player. They both started speaking to these guys weeks ago. Todd clearly states in the interview after the game on Sunday that they wanted to get the season over first and "focus on the job at hand" before thinking about next season. Has our track record in this area filled you with so much confidence that we should just go ach don't worry it will be fine. I suppose we cold do that but yet again this league is improving at a vast rate of knots in standard, teams are becoming much better at making sure they are well ahead of the curve in terms of signing guys to longer term contracts etc and giving them the best opportunity to succeed by having the best infrastructure around the team. I want the same, I want real progress, I want to see us actively going out and pushing the team on to the next level. This is a pro league we need to stop acting like part timers. Its been said too many times already but with the current regime this will never happen. Doesn't mean I can't hope that like my NHL team we finally get our act together and we stop patting ourselves on the back because we had a decent run towards the end to the season and start to really push the big teams for trophies. Look at Paul Thompson away on a scouting trip to America looking to build in his contacts and develop relationships across the pond. Belfast developing with NCAA teams and now we hear that these teams are looking to send guys over here to play (picked that up from the fans forum at the weekend). Show me how we are ahead of these teams!
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Post by amazepux on Apr 6, 2016 16:29:38 GMT
Care to expand on your statement? How do you know this? Please don't say its the Fife way I am not party to the 'inside' info that is offered in these forums. There are even differing versions of the 'inside info'! I and many others can only work on the facts available and on the forum for roster signings. against us, Fife Flyers there is no one. That to me makes us behind other teams, How much behind though I don't know. I will eventually come out in the wash and hearsay will become fact. How long that will be though is anyone's guess as well. Wait and see Maybe some names are already in? Don't need to play your hand to soon...leave the mgt to the mgt...leave coaching to coaches...we are the supporters
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Post by zamboni on Apr 6, 2016 17:20:20 GMT
You can sign players for next season to early Do they try as hard when the already know that they have a contract in place for next season? Bottom line is we don't know what is in or not in place for next season I will believe it when the club announce the signings we will all know before the start of next season that's the timeline. Last season was our best yet 6 and 2 with the Clan home and away victories against them in quarter finals 1 point away from winning the Conference and finished 6th. None of these players that were recruited needed a scouting trip that's good for money bags Sheffield, Flyers have many contacts that are aware of our budget and type of player, look at the Clan big NHL and AHL experience what did that bring them in terms of their expectations? Jackman what did he cost would you swap Rioux and Delahey for Jackman? We have improved every season apart from season 4 where we made the mistake of bringing back nearly the whole team. We will improve again next season
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Post by tam on Apr 6, 2016 17:31:00 GMT
look at our points etc we didnt really improve this year we won four more games than last year, i would say all we really did was keep up with the rate of overall improvement in the league. our league position end of season last four years were 7,7,8,6 so technically our best position this year but dundee were on the same points
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Post by zamboni on Apr 6, 2016 17:41:37 GMT
look at our points etc we didnt really improve this year we won four more games than last year, i would say all we really did was keep up with the rate of overall improvement in the league. our league position end of season last four years were 7,7,8,6 so technically our best position this year but dundee were on the same points Still an improvement we finished with same points as Clan in the Gardiner but they got the cup, and we got to Playoff weekend we are not going backwards, Dundee could only go forward from previous season, the Clan went backwards also and that's down to brining in has beens rather that grafters to complement the returning core. If the Caps hadn't imploded the Gardiner could well have been ours
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Post by thebear on Apr 6, 2016 19:18:27 GMT
Import-wise
Delahey - Gutted if we don't get him back he was rock solid all season and can only get better, Get him signed up now Todd!! Dingle - New Baby can see him retiring Sachetti - Think he will get snapped up by a team with a much bigger budget (hopefully not the same league!) Stockton - Didn't rate him at the start of the season but really impressed me the 2nd half of the year
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Post by finchy on Apr 6, 2016 21:14:17 GMT
look at our points etc we didnt really improve this year we won four more games than last year, i would say all we really did was keep up with the rate of overall improvement in the league. our league position end of season last four years were 7,7,8,6 so technically our best position this year but dundee were on the same points So we won 4 games more but didn't improve? We finished in our highest league position but it doesn't count because we were tied with Dundee? What are your thoughts on us being tied with Clan in the Conference? Can you explain how 'all we really did was keep up with the improvement of the league'? I was going to stay out of this because I feel it's a losing battle trying to get Todd the credit he deserves but I have to say the logic in your post just takes the biscuit in terms of twisting things so not to give credit. Chris Holt- the netminder of our biggest rival thinks Todd should have won coach of the year. I honestly don't know why Flyers supporters are so keen not to give credit to one of our own. It's funny how everyone says the coaching team deserved criticism earlier in the year!- maybe they did but does it not work the other way when they totally turn things round? If a year 5 team isn't happy with 6th in the league, joint top of the Conference and making the POFW then what exactly will it take to make folk happy?
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Post by graz94 on Apr 6, 2016 21:34:32 GMT
Nail on the head.
This team was the best team we have had so far in the EIHL.
The league was the best it has ever been this year since I started watching.
Todd deserves massive credit for turning the ship around from a last place team to a team which had Clans number all season in 5 years.
Finnerty must be seeing Flyers in his nightmares.
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Post by grm on Apr 6, 2016 21:35:21 GMT
Finchy Can't disagree with Ure comments We were not good in November but coaches and players turned it round IMO the best team we have put on ice in elite league in a league getting bigger and better every year both in playing staff but also results The league has improved significantly since we joined , number and quality of imports for one , so even to stay level would have needed an improvement at league levels So to improve ahead of league IMO is a magnificent result and Todd must be given the congratulations for that. We are very competitive in our conference but not good enough to compete with Erhardt teams Is he the right man to take us to next level is a different question and IMO we should be seeking a chuck weber equivalent for Fife to help us compete cross conference - not Danny , but somebody with a great resume at better levels than eihl
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Post by waterboy on Apr 6, 2016 21:40:23 GMT
Ok one question for everybody, let's say Todd comes back as head coach with no assistant to run the team for next season. Would you be happy with that and confident we will improve further.
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Post by bobdee on Apr 6, 2016 22:07:14 GMT
Ok one question for everybody, let's say Todd comes back as head coach with no assistant to run the team for next season. Would you be happy with that and confident we will improve further. I think we had the best group of players we have ever had but sadly had fault lines, especially in defence, which were never solved. that was down to the coaching - had to be. I don't think Todd on his own can bring improvement. I am with you.
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Post by finchy on Apr 6, 2016 22:17:49 GMT
Ok one question for everybody, let's say Todd comes back as head coach with no assistant to run the team for next season. Would you be happy with that and confident we will improve further. What's the point in answering that though? It's a loaded question. You're now implying it's Danny that runs the team. Todd would appoint an assistant if Danny leaves the club and he stays. Where are all these mythical great coaches that people think others teams have and we don't? Would Neilson, Thomson etc., be able to do it without having full time GB internationals, spare imports and being able to hire and fire at will? What evidence is there that guys like Emmerson, Pacha, Levebre etc. are doing better than Todd? The Coventry coach keeps getting held up as the the greatest thing since sliced bread- did I imagine Coventry finishing EIGHTH this season? I really cant believe fans are posting on here like we've had a poor season- no credit to the coach and folk already taking the mickey out of our Brits. We all can be unhappy about this and that at various points of the season but why can't it be a bit more even handed and respectful?
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