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Post by waterboy on Apr 21, 2016 16:23:57 GMT
A wise decision by the owners. How can anyone want Dutes sacked after the way he moulded a TEAM from a group of unknowns and, once again, proved we are improving year upon year. Its the happy clappers who keep the club in business and attendances have gone up year after year. The directors responded by allowing us to have a floating import in case of injury and it worked out a treat. Season ticket applications are pouring in as most fans realise we are getting better. Credit must be given to Todd, just as he would have taken the rap if we had finished bottom. Well its fairly well known that Danny took most of the training sessions in his 5 years with the Flyers so I guess he might have had something to do with the team playing better. Todd never took a group of unknowns he took a group of professional players (the imports at least) only one of whom was a first year pro (but did spend 4 years in the OHL). The same as every coach in the league did. Attendances were down on average this season compared to last year by 215. That's around 75k less income coming in. Oh and its not the happy clappers who keep the club afloat its every single person who walks through the door and the sponsors some of whom actually pay for imports. Your right about one thing Todd is the Head Coach so should carry the can when it goes bad and be praised if it goes right. But by that theory he has gotten it wrong way more times in the last 5 seasons than he has got it right. Which is why some folk want a change. Doesn't make them any less of a supporter because they want a new coach.
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Post by graz94 on Apr 21, 2016 17:04:45 GMT
Where does the misnomer that Danny took the training sessions come from?
Every one I have been at, Todd ran them!
This is a coach that his nearest rival said should have been coach of the year. Their net minder also says the same thing!
This is a coach that despite a meagre budget compared to the big boys, beat every team in the league.
Everybody on here needs to take a reality check! Fife will never have the budget or crowds to compete with the big boys, yet compete within their means.
people expecting run and gun hockey won't get it, the EIHL is not built like that.
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Post by waterboy on Apr 21, 2016 17:13:49 GMT
Where does the misnomer that Danny took the training sessions come from? Former and current players. Todd did take training at times not saying he didn't but Danny didn't go from Assistant coach to associate just for the sake of having a new title. Saying Fife wont have the budget or crowds is way far of the mark we do have a very good budget Todd himself has said that isn't any issue, and we could pull in big crowds but the club just does enough but never really pushes like other clubs do to drive ticket sales. Head to Manchester Storm Twitter feed listen to Neil Russell's latest interview about his plans for that club. They are behind us in crowd numbers budget and league position at the moment. Don't think that will be the case long term.
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Post by waterboy on Apr 21, 2016 17:23:16 GMT
Dave Simms said it a few years back Fife are a sleeping giant. I certainly think that's right. Get it right on and off the ice and we would be challenging the big boys. That's where half of the frustrations for folk come from you can see the potential but for whatever reason it just isn't grabbed with both hands and driven forward. The EIHL is always moving forward at a hell of a rate. Look at the guy the Steelers have brought in as Assistant coach, his pedigree is unreal. Every other club can see it GM's/owners talk about it we have to move with them or we will be left behind. Steelers new Assistant coach www.eliteprospects.com/staff.php?staff=589
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Post by swarfiga on Apr 21, 2016 17:24:13 GMT
Where does the misnomer that Danny took the training sessions come from? Every one I have been at, Todd ran them! This is a coach that his nearest rival said should have been coach of the year. Their net minder also says the same thing! This is a coach that despite a meagre budget compared to the big boys, beat every team in the league. Everybody on here needs to take a reality check! Fife will never have the budget or crowds to compete with the big boys, yet compete within their means. people expecting run and gun hockey won't get it, the EIHL is not built like that. Was waiting on the budget comment, wake up and realise there is nothing small about the flyers available budget!!
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Apr 21, 2016 17:28:06 GMT
Another thing Todd has is a 100% backing from the owners, which had he not had the team might not have had the luxury of the extra import, I've read post after post about sack Todd, but for who,none of the coaches who finished above us in the league would leave to come to Fife, and the coaches below us where below us for a reason, Fife is not the attractive option for high class coaches that everyone seems to think .
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Apr 21, 2016 17:32:07 GMT
Where does the misnomer that Danny took the training sessions come from? Every one I have been at, Todd ran them! This is a coach that his nearest rival said should have been coach of the year. Their net minder also says the same thing! This is a coach that despite a meagre budget compared to the big boys, beat every team in the league. Everybody on here needs to take a reality check! Fife will never have the budget or crowds to compete with the big boys, yet compete within their means. people expecting run and gun hockey won't get it, the EIHL is not built like that. Was waiting on the budget comment, wake up and realise there is nothing small about the flyers available budget!! And you would know this how ?, Flyers income from sponsorship is probably one of the lowest in the league, something they are hoping to address this year.
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Post by waterboy on Apr 21, 2016 18:14:29 GMT
Todd said it in an interview at the start of the season. Budget is not an issue when it comes to recruiting players.
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Post by gscoles65 on Apr 21, 2016 18:22:42 GMT
There hasn't been any players signed yet and everyone's getting their nickers in a twist, why don't we sit back and watch the team unfold and then we can all have an opinion.
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Post by harlan on Apr 21, 2016 19:14:09 GMT
I dont see us having two non playing bench coaches so I think this the end of Dannys association with the Flyers. We were always going to wait on Todd deciding on what he wanted to do and I believe that if he didnt take it then it would have been Dannys job
We also wont have the same Brits as last season as I believe 3 are retiring and one of those has plans which are far advanced to leave the country
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Post by domi28 on Apr 21, 2016 20:28:14 GMT
Todd would still not taken any rap if team was last. He would still be the coach,nothing would change. Did you really believe that he was thinking it over for 2 weeks. Already was a dead cert.
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Post by bobdee on Apr 21, 2016 21:03:23 GMT
There hasn't been any players signed yet and everyone's getting their nickers in a twist, why don't we sit back and watch the team unfold and then we can all have an opinion. We had a good team of players last year and he couldn't do anything worthwhile with them What's going to change?
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Post by Youngblood on Apr 22, 2016 7:26:01 GMT
Typical Fife, doing everything on the cheap. What is done on the cheap, we pay wages to imports as good as most, our players never have to put there hands in there pockets and any one will tell you they are well looked after as any arena team player. I was a big critic of Todd first half of the season, but guess what he turned it around, which is what a coach is paid to do, we missed the conference by a point, finished higher in the league than teams with more league experience and in Coventry's vase a bigger budget (probably), we made Nottingham which teams above us never. So yeah to me the season was a success, don't blame Todd if the home players are what you get for the "home player" budget. He more than deserves another crack. Good decision by the owners Yeah I know the imports and paid well that wasn't my point. My point was that after 19 years it's about time the owners stepped up and made changes to take the club forward. I wasn't having a dig at Todd directly. Todd is basically a puppet for the owners and will put up with the same Brits year on year. Basically this year will be a rehash of the last ones with different imports. Let hope he finds the right ones.
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Post by gscoles65 on Apr 22, 2016 7:27:13 GMT
There hasn't been any players signed yet and everyone's getting their nickers in a twist, why don't we sit back and watch the team unfold and then we can all have an opinion. We had a good team of players last year and he couldn't do anything worthwhile with them What's going to change? We finished in our highest position in the league, most points, just got pipped in the conference and knocked out the champions elect beating them 6 out of 8 games something we couldn't do the previous season. Imo the club has to release and replace at least 4 of our brits to compete for silverware.
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Post by waterboy on Apr 22, 2016 7:49:53 GMT
We had a good team of players last year and he couldn't do anything worthwhile with them What's going to change? Imo the club has to release and replace at least 4 of our brits to compete for silverware. Agree with this only thing I would add is that the Brits need to be fulltime. Obviously some cant do that as they have real jobs but for the club to really challenge this is one of the steps that just has to be taken IMO.
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