rossco
Junior
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: Detroit Red Wings
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Post by rossco on Aug 30, 2016 20:39:59 GMT
Sooo
I didn't see either game at the weekend and accepting that both games amounted to up tempo scrimmages by all accounts both Smith and Simpson had decent outings ?
Those that follow Junior Dev more than me can perhaps give views on what we have in the pipeline. Should we assume because of their inclusion that these two laddies are the ones with the most potential and with the correct investment they could come through the process to make the standard for this league. Are there others, Andy Little was mentioned as someone to also be given some game experience ?
I guess everyone accepts that it's a huge step up and that it can only be achieved principally through being given ice time, otherwise guys who genuinely have the potential to make it will a) get hacked off and go somewhere else b) stagnate on a bench and provide the sort of 'token' representation that a number of the local guys have given in the last 5 years which doesn't give the club any competitive advantage over others who must rely on getting the chequebook out.
I didn't start this thread to go over who out there clearly knows better than the coach and his assistant, I've read a bunch of that sort of stuff, very entertaining, please don't go that route.
I'm keen to be educated on what the Development System can provide and perhaps how Hutchins in his new role needs to address things to get a value out of it in 2-3 years from now.
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Post by sparkymark75 on Aug 30, 2016 21:14:49 GMT
Simpson got more shifts than Smith did, but neither really looked out of place (taking into account the opposition and the pace of the game). Simpson looked a wee bit nervous on his first few shifts both nights but settled into it as the game went on. One thing he will need to do before he can even think about having a future in pro hockey is to bulk up/out a bit.
Hard to judge either player based on that one game and I'm not up to speed on the juniors to know what's on the production line.
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Post by kestrelsfan on Aug 30, 2016 21:19:42 GMT
If you're a junior coaches son, and your surname isn't Plews, you're in with a shout!
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Billkmc
Pro
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: Calgary Flames
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Prospects
Aug 30, 2016 21:31:30 GMT
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Post by Billkmc on Aug 30, 2016 21:31:30 GMT
If you're a junior coaches son, and your surname isn't Plews, you're in with a shout! So you're saying Zander should follow Tyler to the caps now instead of waiting
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Post by johndabomb on Aug 30, 2016 22:43:03 GMT
It's a ****ing travesty that Kirkcaldy born lads like Plews, Moore and Marr are plying their trade at other EIHL teams. And it's even worse when you think others like both Mitchells, Adam Walker and Steven Chalmers never played for the Flyers in the past. Though there may be some excuse for those that had left before we joined the EIHL I'm sure they could have been tempted back from the other Scottish sides. Imagine that as a Brit core.
Can't let the next prospects go the same way.
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Post by swarfiga on Aug 31, 2016 5:59:45 GMT
Until they pay them properly they'll never have a proper Brit core
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Post by RedBird on Aug 31, 2016 6:56:44 GMT
It's a ******* travesty that Kirkcaldy born lads like Plews, Moore and Marr are plying their trade at other EIHL teams. And it's even worse when you think others like both Mitchells, Adam Walker and Steven Chalmers never played for the Flyers in the past. Though there may be some excuse for those that had left before we joined the EIHL I'm sure they could have been tempted back from the other Scottish sides. Imagine that as a Brit core. Can't let the next prospects go the same way. Not quite true that statement given both Mitchells and Adam Walker have all played for Flyers at some point in the past. However, they didn't play for Flyers in their so called prime and tbh never seemed to be given a great chance when they were in the team. Would be great to see some new Brits coming though from junior development as we certainly aren't a club who will spend on experienced brits.
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Post by acer20 on Aug 31, 2016 11:40:10 GMT
If you're a junior coaches son, and your surname isn't Plews, you're in with a shout! Kestrelsfan, why don't you tell us then who you think are prospects then?
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Post by swarfiga on Aug 31, 2016 11:47:21 GMT
Is that Simpson a coaches son? Seriously I don't know
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Aug 31, 2016 11:57:06 GMT
Is that Simpson a coaches son? Seriously I don't know No he's not, just a decent guy from Smeaton. His wee brother by all accounts even better than him. Can't criticise them for there effort but I think the weekend showed that these guys require a lot of work to make the jump and defo not ready for a regular elite shift, but potential is there and need to be put in a transition development programme now.
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Post by swarfiga on Aug 31, 2016 12:00:12 GMT
Cheers mate. Aye I thought he looked pretty decent, his positioning was really good, and he looked pretty composed. They're very small guys though, a lot of growing and filling out before they can look to play regular shifts.
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pink
Rookie
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Post by pink on Aug 31, 2016 12:07:31 GMT
Dirty Lyle Simpson is a coaches son is Dad is John Simpson
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Billkmc
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
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Post by Billkmc on Aug 31, 2016 12:48:50 GMT
Is that Simpson a coaches son? Seriously I don't know No he's not, just a decent guy from Smeaton. His wee brother by all accounts even better than him. Can't criticise them for there effort but I think the weekend showed that these guys require a lot of work to make the jump and defo not ready for a regular elite shift, but potential is there and need to be put in a transition development programme now. His dad is a coach, he coaches the under 7s 10s something like that but you're right his brother is viewed as one of our top prospects.
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Post by johndabomb on Aug 31, 2016 13:02:07 GMT
It's a shame we lost Plews in particular I think but also worrying that Liam Cassidy has gone to the Caps as well. Nigh on 6 and a half foot tall and scoring points at will for the Kestrels last season. Not many British prospects are that size.
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Post by waterboy on Aug 31, 2016 15:27:51 GMT
It's a shame we lost Plews in particular I think but also worrying that Liam Cassidy has gone to the Caps as well. Nigh on 6 and a half foot tall and scoring points at will for the Kestrels last season. Not many British prospects are that size. What really bugs me about that one is that he was pushed out the door by Todd. The laddie was told at the end of the season to find another club. He is one I really hope does well in Edinburgh.
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