k3vya
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Post by k3vya on Sept 19, 2016 21:45:23 GMT
Ano its only a few weeks in an players are still gelling etc but I have not been impressed by thinel or schaber, what's people's thoughts so far?
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Post by mtsparky69 on Sept 19, 2016 21:48:59 GMT
Early days but think Thinnel is slow but his passing and vision round the goal is immense. Schaber il reserve judgement for a few games but works hard.
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Sept 19, 2016 21:50:30 GMT
Ano its only a few weeks in an players are still gelling etc but I have not been impressed by thinel or schaber, what's people's thoughts so far? Both have scored a couple of goals and it's way too early to write them off. Schaber has been out injured for almost a year so will get stronger I'd guess. Thinel needs to be used the right way as he clearly has a lot of class and vision but obviously isn't a fast skater. Nico Sachetti took 2/3 weeks to settle in but was pretty decent in the end... It's a long season- it's a new country for a lot of these guys. Give them a break.
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Post by ckbell63 on Sept 19, 2016 22:14:14 GMT
I thought Schaber was superb on Saturday. He has skill, speed and strength and will get better. Thinel is maybe more suited to a team with tougher players and greater strenght. He has no doubt got a great record but does appear too slow and this won't be helped by having to play long shifts. Probably better used on the powerplay and coming in late on the play. Bobby was a prolific scorer wherever he played but lacked speed. It is a case of how you get the best out of them all. I wish we had more speed and a bit of toughness. I guess the next few weeks will show what they are all made of.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Sept 20, 2016 7:18:42 GMT
schaber has speed and skill good hands and a bit of strength in the corners give him a few weeks and thinel may be needs time to settle in to this faster tougher league but give him space and time and he will hurt you
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ronniemac
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Post by ronniemac on Sept 20, 2016 11:37:16 GMT
I was not at any games at the weekend but I don't think any panic buttons need pressed at the moment other than address the Follmer scenario with a bit more urgency.
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Post by waterboy on Sept 20, 2016 15:14:02 GMT
Thinel is painfully slow, why he was being asked to be our lone forechecking forward on Saturday was beyond me. He needs a proper centre to set him up Stockton being possibly a better choice than Sisca (who looked vey poor). Stockton and Fox also have good chemistry from last season.
Schaber I expected a lot more from, really thought he would be the bang and crash guy but never seemed to get into the game. Might have been just that one poor game for a few guys but other than Dingle Fox and for parts of the game Brooks the rest need to step up this weekend. Not including Owen as he was good but left hung out to dry in both games.
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Post by swarfiga on Sept 20, 2016 16:41:43 GMT
Think Schaber will be decent eventually, concerned how much he coughs the puck up though, Thinels a concern, I don't see how he'll ever get up to speed in this league, he's slower than Bobby which is rare.
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Post by jrismahero on Oct 3, 2016 20:27:18 GMT
Thinnel think we've been sold a dud wi this boy
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Post by waterboy on Oct 4, 2016 12:37:21 GMT
He aint a dud, you don't put up the points he has through his entire career by being a dud. Issue is we are asking him to play in a system that doesn't suit his style. Add in he is 35 and only getting slower its fairly easy to see the problem.
I can't see him lasting the season unless we change how we utilise him. His ability to set up a chance or score is obvious, issue is he is basically a luxury player who will put up pts. We simply cant carry any players like that with such poor depth in our squad.
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Post by toomanymen on Oct 4, 2016 15:35:01 GMT
They don't become bad players overnight. The problem is the coach and owners. So much so, even the KIHC has almost given up hope of a link to the juniors again. Same old excuses 5 years down the line
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 4, 2016 17:38:04 GMT
They don't become bad players overnight. The problem is the coach and owners. So much so, even the KIHC has almost given up hope of a link to the juniors again. Same old excuses 5 years down the line Let's be fair here though, it's not like there's anything in Schabers past to suggest he was anything more than average.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Oct 4, 2016 18:12:17 GMT
These guys are our 3rd and 4th scorers, I say give them a bit longer, Thinel is slow but he does have some nice touches in the offensive zone...maybe the answer is to replace one of the other underachievers and get in someone who is more suited to be a linemate of his. I don't really know just saying
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Oct 4, 2016 19:06:11 GMT
Thinel is a fantastic talent- his record speaks for itself.
I doubt he's ever been a fast skater and if Flyers have done their homework on the type of player he is you absolutely must have guys who can compliment him. If we simply want our forwards to all be inter-changeable grinders then I'm not sure he fits in. Hopefully they find a way to get the best out of him but I'm not sure chopping and changing the forward lines each week will do it.
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Post by greyhound on Oct 4, 2016 20:12:54 GMT
You know I have learned from the first season where Fulton, Reber, and the rest were gash, then turned it around to an amazing extent, where players I wrote off showed what they can do. So I think they need a pinch of salt, but...
I think the problem is the way the team is expected to play. Todd wants a fast puck moving team that hussles with an aggressive forecheck and has scoring from the opportunities it creates.
But a large part of our team are not as fast as Dingle, Brooks, Sisca, like all of the d bar Pacquet, and forwards like Thinel, Stockton, Fox, and any brit we put out does not have the quality, thats a decent handbrake on each line, and none of these slower boys are a big physical presence to make up for it, and like others have said we can'y afford any passengers because of the systems Todd is playing, so it shows up the weak links worse.
Then add to that some are at the end of their careers, Schaber is getting his sharpness back from a season out, some of the scorers are not scoring. With no plan b we will have the same old season, some high some lows, lots of inconsistency, and players at times looking tired due to the high tempo, lack of physical presence, and being asked to play in all situations ie PP, PK etc.
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