grm
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Post by grm on Oct 18, 2016 16:59:27 GMT
Having followed the team for many years apart from the SNL days it us clear to me changes need to be made to enable us to compete every week last weekend our best forward and captain was targeted and nobody did anything so we need to obtain players who will not only hold our players to account but also the opposition if Matt had been playing do u think he would have accepted the hits on Ryan or the bully boy assault on Haines in braehead
My personal views and happy to be challenged import forwards i believe we have a core who can compete in this league but we lack size so I would
keep Dingle, Stockton , Fox, Brooks, sisca who work hard every shift and good in both zones. I would keep thinel but only if we give him some power to play with as he has a feel for ice and a passing game very few have. With right line he could be our jade galbraith
I Would release Schaber , finucci , Wilson - the imports as feel we could do better and in Jamies case why pay him to sit on the bench when he ain't setting records with kestrels put on two way scoon as IMO not good enough but he tries I would clarify the role of gunny who can be a decent third line forward but seems to have fallen out of favour with Todd
recruit two forwards of ability / style of Matt siddal / Kerry biette / Jason pitton as imports guys who can play but can also do the dirty stuff recruit john Dolan to add to our British quality
defence
retain moyer , paquet , release jackman and isaacs - ricks injury a slow recovery and although very composed getting slow for this league , isaacs has helped out twice and well done for facing up to rose hill but he is not strong enough if we have ambitions seek more or release turon / Haines - both are nice hockey players but not strong enough in any area in current formation but with size beside them can do a job recruit Matt Nickerson / Greg kuznik type who can play hockey but hold teams to account like Fitzgerald does clarify roles of tommy and Wando
so I would like to see a roster like
Owen kuznick , Moyer, paquet, Haines, Nickerson , muir . Wando brooks, dingle , siddal , pitton , fox , Stockton , sisca, thinel , Gunn , Dolan
A team with skill , pace and individual grit with ability to hold our team and opposition to account
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 19, 2016 13:44:35 GMT
What absolutely infuriates me is how obvious it is that a couple of big guys that can play makes such a massive difference to the team, for example say you bin Turon and any of the under performing forwards for a guy like Nickerson/Cescon that can play but obviously do the enforcing role and a guy like Pitton, big points scorer but can do the protection role as well, and play proper physical but clean hockey, it's there for everyone to see except our blind coach
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Post by coloradoflyer on Oct 19, 2016 22:20:11 GMT
Been saying for years in this league a power forward on top 2 lines and if not one power firward and one big tough D man that can play
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Post by boschman76 on Oct 19, 2016 22:44:07 GMT
Colorado flyer being saying it and asking the question since we came into the league how can every other coach past or present in the league all build similar types of team capable of producing the competitive type of hockey this league demands yet our coach insists on building a team to compete with how teams played 20yrs age.as swarfiga said look at Sheffield fast skilful but also have a power forward like desbiens and fitzy to keep other teams physical guys honest as it should be
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Post by coloradoflyer on Oct 20, 2016 7:19:19 GMT
Look at the season 2 elite team , a power forward in pitton, skill with haines and guys like podge and toughness at the back with caister also we had grit with hogg always in front of the net
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 20, 2016 7:22:41 GMT
It's all fine and well saying we want to be skilled and fast, fact is most teams in the league are more skilled and more fast, but have that extra edge in physicality as well
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Post by riverrat on Oct 20, 2016 8:38:08 GMT
Look at the season 2 elite team , a power forward in pitton, skill with haines and guys like podge and toughness at the back with caister also we had grit with hogg always in front of the net Very entertaining. However only finished 7th, just ahead of very poor Dundee and Hull sides and a Braehead team that went from crisis to crisis. The league's far more competitive now. Dundee appear to have the mix you're talking about but have won 1 league game out of 6 and got thumped 5-1 by Edinburgh last night.
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Post by jambitink on Oct 20, 2016 8:54:42 GMT
Really infuriates me when Todd goes on about building a fast skilful team, as if the other teams in the league lack both. From what I’ve seen Flyers are no faster or more skilful than any of the other teams but hell of a lot softer which is the difference maker.
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 20, 2016 9:34:03 GMT
Look at the season 2 elite team , a power forward in pitton, skill with haines and guys like podge and toughness at the back with caister also we had grit with hogg always in front of the net Very entertaining. However only finished 7th, just ahead of very poor Dundee and Hull sides and a Braehead team that went from crisis to crisis. The league's far more competitive now. Dundee appear to have the mix you're talking about but have won 1 league game out of 6 and got thumped 5-1 by Edinburgh last night. We had basically the perfect line that year, but realistically only had 1 good line and a half maybe. I'm pretty sure that was one of the best lines in the league that year and should be the standard he looks to recruit
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Post by waterboy on Oct 20, 2016 11:11:20 GMT
Going by some of Todd's statements in the FFP he does appear to be suggesting that our guys will do what is required to protect themselves from guys like Rosehill and plays like those from the weekend. Is he actually being serious? does he not realise that our guys cant do that which is why we are in this position in the first place. He expected the Refs to protect his team then for Dops to do the same if required. Can he now not see that isn't going to happen and we need to bring guys in who can and will protect our skill players.What makes him think anyone in our current team can or will take on this role. Oh wait I forgot David Turon is meant to be back this weekend........... I wish this guy would just admit he got it wrong and make the changes or club so badly need.
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 20, 2016 12:02:27 GMT
His rant in the press, a lot of the stuff you can't argue with but it's as if the guy didn't know all this before! There's never been an independent body, that's not changing anytime soon, the review system is a joke but he know what it is!!! Christ none of this is new to him, he's basing this whole arguement on the fact Nicker got done a couple times 2 years ago! He knew the situation and chose to ignore it, if he tells his guys to do what they have to to protect themselves 1 of them is going to take a first class pasting and end up with concussion and that will be on his head for not bringing in any toughness, he's cutting off his nose despite his face here and digging his heels in majoryly!
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Post by jambitink on Oct 20, 2016 12:28:56 GMT
His rant in the press, a lot of the stuff you can't argue with but it's as if the guy didn't know all this before! There's never been an independent body, that's not changing anytime soon, the review system is a joke but he know what it is!!! Christ none of this is new to him, he's basing this whole arguement on the fact Nicker got done a couple times 2 years ago! He knew the situation and chose to ignore it, if he tells his guys to do what they have to to protect themselves 1 of them is going to take a first class pasting and end up with concussion and that will be on his head for not bringing in any toughness, he's cutting off his nose despite his face here and digging his heels in majoryly!Correct
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Post by waterboy on Oct 20, 2016 12:36:16 GMT
His rant in the press, a lot of the stuff you can't argue with but it's as if the guy didn't know all this before! There's never been an independent body, that's not changing anytime soon, the review system is a joke but he know what it is!!! Christ none of this is new to him, he's basing this whole arguement on the fact Nicker got done a couple times 2 years ago! He knew the situation and chose to ignore it, if he tells his guys to do what they have to to protect themselves 1 of them is going to take a first class pasting and end up with concussion and that will be on his head for not bringing in any toughness, he's cutting off his nose despite his face here and digging his heels in majoryly! Got to admit though he has done a cracking job of deflecting what was 2 c*** performances and the failings in his hand picked team. Nobody is asking any questions of him and his recruitment policy its all about how bad the Clan are and how DOPS are to blame. Check out Todd Kelmans statement on Twitter, Fault lies at the Clubs feet for not putting in the request. They knew the system and how it works but chose to not follow it. But now its all about how wrong the league set up is and DOPS are not doing their job properly. Meanwhile he sits back taking no flak for not bringing in the right players for the league, something we all talked about in the lead up to the season.
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 20, 2016 13:01:49 GMT
His rant in the press, a lot of the stuff you can't argue with but it's as if the guy didn't know all this before! There's never been an independent body, that's not changing anytime soon, the review system is a joke but he know what it is!!! Christ none of this is new to him, he's basing this whole arguement on the fact Nicker got done a couple times 2 years ago! He knew the situation and chose to ignore it, if he tells his guys to do what they have to to protect themselves 1 of them is going to take a first class pasting and end up with concussion and that will be on his head for not bringing in any toughness, he's cutting off his nose despite his face here and digging his heels in majoryly! Got to admit though he has done a cracking job of deflecting what was 2 c*** performances and the failings in his hand picked team. Nobody is asking any questions of him and his recruitment policy its all about how bad the Clan are and how DOPS are to blame. Check out Todd Kelmans statement on Twitter, Fault lies at the Clubs feet for not putting in the request. They knew the system and how it works but chose to not follow it. But now its all about how wrong the league set up is and DOPS are not doing their job properly. Meanwhile he sits back taking no flak for not bringing in the right players for the league, something we all talked about in the lead up to the season. Kelman has summed it up perfectly, he knows it's a load of mince and flawed, but it's also a very simple process, just follow it! If you feel your players safety has been compromised then get it reviewed. I think he's really starting to feel the pressure, he looks completely lost at sea, and to be honest just in my opinion looking at him and Hutchins on the bench, it looks like something's off if you ask me, I was watching Hutchins at the weekend and he looked like he knew exactly what was going on, that's me just guessing though. I actually don't think Todd wants to be in the elite league and is holding out for another BNL to happen. When are the directors and more importantly Muir going to start listening to the majority of experienced fans that are sick of this. Imagine he held a fans forum...
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Post by swarfiga on Oct 20, 2016 13:02:44 GMT
And another thing, you want a fast skilled gritty team.... don't sign a guy that quotes in a pre season interview that he's "not the fittest guy in the world"
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