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Post by waterboy on Feb 23, 2017 14:15:42 GMT
Import limit should be 12. 1 nettie, 4 d-men, two forward lines with a spare import to play with two Brits on a third line. Not picking on your post but that's were the league was 3 years ago. Its moved on massively. Increase in Imports doesn't mean reduced time for the Brits it just means the league is moving on in standard and 4 line hockey is now the norm. Our team is suffering due our lack of depth, something the club hasn't addressed in all our time in the EIHL. Any Pro squad should contain: 2/3 Goalies 7/8 Defencemen 13 forwards Import wise the make up being 1 - 4 - 9 (or 1 - 5 - 8) Leaving 1 - 3 - 4 (or 1 - 2 - 5)spots for Brits. 12 teams 8 Brits per team 96 in total that's not that bad is it. Bare in mind as the top league in the country that should really be the top Brits playing in the league. Not just guys getting a game because they are local. Those days are gone I'm afraid. Would you rather we had signed Jamie Wilson or Ben Davies? I would love nothing more than seeing 8 Fife kids making the Flyers and being involved in the GB team and being amongst the best their is. We all know how unlikely that is with the way the club is currently run.
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Post by greyhound on Feb 23, 2017 18:09:41 GMT
I think the way the eihl is just now with imports/ brit ratio is probably spot on. The plan is obviously for you to have enough brits to make a 4th line, and so have 4 line hockey to allow elite teams to compete in europe and for the gb team to continue to grow.
If our owner had the foresight, blood some young boys who have the talent, all the scottish teams do with players who play against the likes of Chad Smith and co every week, and they are no better. But they could also have afforded to bring in the likes of a John Dolan this year to bolster the squad and allow time for the new blood to adapt.
My BIG concern is that I have heard weeks ago from sources at the rink that Mr Muir does not want to be in this league due to it being huge amounts of hassle almost a full time job, and a lot of money. He does not want to relinquish control to a GM also, so would be more than happy to take Flyers to a EPL2 type league.
I feel though he is missing the big picture. Flyers are an institution. As long as it's financially viable, he as the owner has a responsibility to the history, to the fans, the future of the club and the junior development where his own son was nurtured. He must keep them in the top league, but do it to compete not half assed as has been done last couple seasons. There will easy be average 2500 crowds every week for a better product more akin to the Pitton/ Caister with a mix of Nickerson/ Fulton seasons.
No one person should be allowed to take the Fife Flyers out of the top league, he is the custodian of a special thing. If this was football, even Raith there would be outrage. Fingers crossed the rumours are not true. And I say that with my son a hopeful junior player, not that far away from the ability to break through.
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Post by jeeves on Feb 23, 2017 18:39:07 GMT
Would go for reconstituted EPL. Would cut import quota ..would make sure teams played UK goalies. Might stop some of the contant moaning on here since we joined the EIHL. And before you start there have been constant whingers and I know betters on here and its becoming dull. The old BNL wasnt that bad compared to the "Super" League back in the day crowds were good,games were close and Sat night used to be good in FIA. Also would we have to deal with DOPS and the Arena Conspiracy and Simmsy.....the prosecution against the EIHL ..rests.
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Post by harlan on Feb 23, 2017 18:43:29 GMT
I voted to remain where we are just now because the question asked was based on the now We know nothing about the make up of an EPL 2 and until we do it's better being in the stability of the league we are in rather than voting for something we know nothing about, even though we may not like the league of are in, and it does have very obvious faults that can be easily fixed I do think the ideal league for us to be in is one with six to eight imports with a clear, workable and enforceable wage cap and I do think that Muirs enthusiasm for this league is waning each season and he had no enthusiasm for this league to begin with, we joined because we had no other option and in some way we still don't. So for the time being I would rather we stay where we are even though it still doesn't feel like the right fit for us and whatever we decide to do we should do what is the right thing for us and our continued long term future and stuff what others think we should do cause it benefits their club
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Post by boschman76 on Feb 23, 2017 18:52:09 GMT
Won't matter what league we go in unless you put a wage cap in place the big teams will always want more that's why the arena teams want more imports cause they can afford it it would go same way in epl .when we first went into eihl I Said then you play with the big boys you play by there rules and Muir knew that
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Post by jeeves on Feb 23, 2017 18:55:54 GMT
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Post by boschman76 on Feb 23, 2017 19:00:37 GMT
Harlan the eihl should be the perfect fit for fife with the right coach and structure in place we could get the good times back where you needed to get your ticket midweek or you didn't get in with the right team on the ice I believe we could get full houses every week when the fia really rocked sitting in the stairwells standing 3 or 4 deep best atmosphere in hockey
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Post by bobdee on Feb 23, 2017 19:05:13 GMT
Harlan the eihl should be the perfect fit for fife with the right coach and structure in place we could get the good times back where you needed to get your ticket midweek or you didn't get in with the right team on the ice I believe we could get full houses every week when the fia really rocked sitting in the stairwells standing 3 or 4 deep best atmosphere in hockey Completely agree. Maybe living in the past but I also believe that with the correct set up and team, house full notices would return.
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Post by jeeves on Feb 23, 2017 19:10:34 GMT
Harlan the eihl should be the perfect fit for fife with the right coach and structure in place we could get the good times back where you needed to get your ticket midweek or you didn't get in with the right team on the ice I believe we could get full houses every week when the fia really rocked sitting in the stairwells standing 3 or 4 deep best atmosphere in hockey ......I take it your talking about when crowds were near 3500 v Racers in 1984,85,86 etc. When people had just before Thatcher destroyed Fifes industry and people had money. Also When there were only 3 imports ...I know . Iwas a t a game when Flyers drew with Murrayfield 2-2 in 1977 and the rink went potty with about 1900 in it ..( Dougie Latto equaliser 15 secs from time Press ran Headline ..15 seconds from failure). Well families dont have the money ,they dont get the excitement and they dont have a connection as much with the team. Plus ..when you pump teams full of journeymen imports and a couple of beefies teams cancel each other out ..very little class or flair players to go and see these days...still as ever ..and it nearly killed hockey in the fifties its all about the money. And who wants to put up every season to finance the team you watch and slate here all the time the same man . Maybe he should just walk away am sure theres plenty backers out there oh wait a minute ...
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Post by harlan on Feb 23, 2017 19:15:07 GMT
Harlan the eihl should be the perfect fit for fife with the right coach and structure in place we could get the good times back where you needed to get your ticket midweek or you didn't get in with the right team on the ice I believe we could get full houses every week when the fia really rocked sitting in the stairwells standing 3 or 4 deep best atmosphere in hockey And on the whole I tend to agree with that but the original question was with the same things in place and for me with your scenario too many things would need to change in the philosophy of this club at ownership level, structure level, coaching level, match night presentation level, league professionalism level and fan expectation level I do think you are right though, you change a few small things with the outlook of this club and you get those times back Whether that is achievable in the EIHL or a restructured EPL 2 is another question
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Post by boschman76 on Feb 23, 2017 19:22:23 GMT
Ye I'm talking about the plumb line arriving and re energizing a club that was down in the dumps and it was like that for every game and that's what surprises me is that the current owner was around then so he should know what kind off crowds he could get through the door that's the major difference between him and his old man his dad always did what was best for the team if that was sacking a coach cause things weren't working or bringing in a player that would help the team because he knew how important it was to keep the fans happy
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Post by boschman76 on Feb 23, 2017 19:29:05 GMT
Harlan the weird thing is the match night experience was better before we entered the eihl when guys like biette kuznik spadafora were playing alot off the changes seem to have been made since the clan castoff came on board and I wouldn't say they were made for the best
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Post by coloradoflyer on Feb 23, 2017 19:34:17 GMT
I'd love to see the lights out both teams on the ice then the first line for both teams introduced might liven things up a bit and get the fans going at the start of the game with the hope it carried on through the rest of it
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Post by joestoyanovich on Feb 23, 2017 19:42:58 GMT
Import limit should be 12. 1 nettie, 4 d-men, two forward lines with a spare import to play with two Brits on a third line. Better than it is just now I suppose but 2 brits in the team, whats the point of having british ice hockey if all the hope we can give young players coming through is a measly 2 places in the line up?
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Post by jeeves on Feb 23, 2017 19:43:46 GMT
Am sure Clan castoff as you put it was not in place when Fife entered EIHL.
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