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Post by madthepirate on May 8, 2017 7:11:28 GMT
I agree with all rothesfifer says but I wouldn't have Ryan Dingle as captain he's too nice and perhaps it's just me but I didn't rate Brendan Brooks he was anonymous for a lot of the time. Dont think many would agree with your opinion on these 2 guys Joe. Brooks was easily one of our top forwards and lead from the front every game. He took a while to get going but many guys do as they are too used to the NA style season where early season games don't mean as much. Dingle leads by example on the ice every shift, his work ethic on ice is outstanding. Both guys are amongst the names everybody seem to mention when signing for next season is discussed. Brooksy also performed very well for GB.
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Post by madthepirate on May 8, 2017 7:12:21 GMT
Braehead would take Brooksy back in an instant.
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Post by coloradoflyer on May 8, 2017 7:51:41 GMT
brooks and dingle should be the first 2 guys signed back up simples
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Post by happydaysdancer on May 9, 2017 17:57:57 GMT
If we've got one eihl season left, get a slap shot esq team in. Who ownnnsnnnnns the flyers
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Post by CraggyP on May 9, 2017 20:03:07 GMT
brooks and dingle should be the first 2 guys signed back up simples Agree totally ...... the only 2 instant targets for me and hopefully yet another top keeper who saves our lack in depth
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Post by chez86 on May 9, 2017 20:17:19 GMT
Jack Wishart was at Dundee tonight for stars meeting so fingers crossed you guys get news soon
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Post by elaine59 on May 10, 2017 6:07:17 GMT
Jack Wishart was at Dundee tonight for stars meeting so fingers crossed you guys get news soon Hopefully not the same news as you got.Team for sale and price increase for admission. Unless somebody has the money to buy us of course.
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Post by swarfiga on May 10, 2017 6:37:41 GMT
Difference is Dundee probably lose money and fife just don't make enough
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Post by elaine59 on May 10, 2017 6:50:31 GMT
Difference is Dundee probably lose money and fife just don't make enough Your right but you would imagine we have the potential to make a lot more than we do
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Post by waterboy on May 10, 2017 8:11:09 GMT
Dundee are only running at 42% of their capacity at DIA. What was it Todd Kelman said get out there and sell your games/seats.
Dundee has always been a hockey town the crowds are there if they work for them.
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Post by andi renson on May 10, 2017 12:02:06 GMT
Dundee are only running at 42% of their capacity at DIA. What was it Todd Kelman said get out there and sell your games/seats. Dundee has always been a hockey town the crowds are there if they work for them. As I have said previously, this club would benefit from a Todd Kelman type general manager to sort the whole organisation out top to bottom in a much more professional manner.
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Post by swarfiga on May 10, 2017 12:17:18 GMT
If there's any stars fans on here don't shoot me if this is wrong but I'm friends with an ex Brit player than played for stars, he says that when it was 11 imports Dundee needed 800 per home game to break even, now per import increase that would mean roughly Dundee would now need 1100 per home game to break even (very rough figure) fifes budget on players won't be massively higher than dundees, it'll be higher but not huge, I would imagine we pay less ice costs to the rink (if any) than stars do.... here's the simple fact, if flyers could be even half arsed putting a hard nosed fast team on the ice which only means spending their budget in a different fashion, a player coach and a bench coach instead of 2 bench coaches and the club would get an extra 3/400 on average, in turn making more money. Tam Muir and Jack wishart needs to get a grip of this before it's beyond repair.
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Post by ronniemac on May 10, 2017 13:03:09 GMT
That type of info has been mooted on here for the last 6 years, apart from Braehead the other Scottish teams do not have the right approach to fill their rinks, I have seen those teams sell out their rinks in the past.......right product = success in my book.
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Post by swarfiga on May 10, 2017 13:34:58 GMT
Aye I know mate, just so frustrating to watch what's wrong and nothing be done about it
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Post by greyhound on May 10, 2017 22:02:43 GMT
This is purely a half educated guess bit I would think flyers in the Elite are break even at just over a 1000 crowd.
I would imagine their breakdown would be roughly 14 imports at average £800 per week brits total £1000 per week equipment £800 per week
so around £13000 cost per week top end (possibly a bit less)
And our average gate £12 per head? perhaps, so say a crowd of 1500 weekly gives £18000.
Now I know they have costs of other staff, referees, travel. But sponsor money, match night sponsor, equipment sponsor, merchandising, 50/50, chuck a puck, webcasts, would surely cover these things.
I think what hurt the Flyers last season was no extra challenge cup game which no doubt covers the initial outlays for flights etc, players will only be paid weekly so this is more or less 100% profit. And of course poor performances despite for the first time in EIHL not scraping in to the playoffs really affected crowd numbers.
Flyers, as most have said, with the right team would easily be an average 2000+ crowd, at this kind of budget.
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