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Post by The Horse™ on Jan 6, 2013 23:14:59 GMT
A bad day at the office, thats all....the guys will bounce back. Can't win them all...boys will feel bad enough without getting pelters on here
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Post by Dirkster23 on Jan 6, 2013 23:33:08 GMT
A bad day at the office, thats all....the guys will bounce back. Can't win them all...boys will feel bad enough without getting pelters on here Pretty sure Todd said that after the game last weekend. I take it we are allowed to air our views on the game on here? "Apologies, Added my comment here by mistake"
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gtp29
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Post by gtp29 on Jan 6, 2013 23:45:40 GMT
Very bad day at the office that highlights the fact that with Casey & Zach injured & us already an import down we have no depth. I hate to say it but Danny Stewart as a bench coach for us was fantastic, we had systems and constantly changing lines that also improved some of our local guys, we have gone back to fixed lines and dump and run which, as a team, are not good enough to play at the moment. Against Dundee the team all played for each other and some had their best games of the season, three weeks later and they have regressed to the start of the season. They have proved that they have the ability, and their fitness should & is be getting better so lets justify the entrance money and support and start playing that good hockey again. The fans will be back, lets hope the players turn up in the right frame of mind too, no one minds if you have worked your socks off and lose a tight game, but no one wants a repeat of tonight where we were never really in the game and just didn't want it as much as Braehead. The officiating was poor but there are communication channels for expressing concern or for asking for reviews of decisions, but we don't seem to use them, so we have no right to complain if as a club we will not use the rules the way other clubs do. Here's to next week. COYF.
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Post by joestoyanovich on Jan 7, 2013 0:03:45 GMT
From the FFP tweets it appears the plan was to come out hitting and tire the short benched clan. There's no doubt about it that would have been a great plan, its just a pity that nothing remotely like that actually happened on the night.
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Post by dag101 on Jan 7, 2013 0:10:51 GMT
I'm sure everyone's allowed to air their views on here. The Horse has aired his view and i'm with him on this one. Quite frankly some of the negativity posted on this Forum beggars belief at times. Yes it was a bad performance there's no getting away from that. This one in my opinion came down to being outcoached and outhought at home for the second week running. The Clan played smart passing hockey. We didn't. We dumped the puck in and 9 times out of 10 it came straight back out again. There was no plan B so the systems mentioned earlier in the thread need a bit of an overhaul. Tactical lack of awareness. However slagging off players doesn't do any good and just creates a divide between players and supporters nobody needs. If we want to attract quality players to the club in the future lets hope they don't read the Forum first !
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Post by kdd on Jan 7, 2013 9:00:09 GMT
However slagging off players doesn't do any good and just creates a divide between players and supporters nobody needs. If we want to attract quality players to the club in the future lets hope they don't read the Forum first ! I haven't read any comments slagging players off over last night's game. The general consensus just seems to be that the performance was poor all round, which I think is totally fair because it was. The forum would be a bit pointless if people only posted when things went well.
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Jan 7, 2013 9:22:43 GMT
I'm sure everyone's allowed to air their views on here. The Horse has aired his view and i'm with him on this one. Quite frankly some of the negativity posted on this Forum beggars belief at times. Yes it was a bad performance there's no getting away from that. This one in my opinion came down to being outcoached and outhought at home for the second week running. The Clan played smart passing hockey. We didn't. We dumped the puck in and 9 times out of 10 it came straight back out again. There was no plan B so the systems mentioned earlier in the thread need a bit of an overhaul. Tactical lack of awareness. However slagging off players doesn't do any good and just creates a divide between players and supporters nobody needs. If we want to attract quality players to the club in the future lets hope they don't read the Forum first ! You'll need to quote me where players are being slagged off- I can't see it anywhere. Most folk (like you) have made general comments about us being outplayed/outcoached. Nobody wants to see actual abuse being given out to players, but it's not unreasonable to expect that on a forum that fans want to assess the teams performance. The team gets praised to high heaven when it's done well, so I'm sure the guys (who should be their own worst critics) should accept that when they've not played well that fans will recognise that too. Overall people are generally very happy with the team, but that was a hard one to take especially after last week.
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flyersforlife01
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Post by flyersforlife01 on Jan 7, 2013 9:48:16 GMT
The players said it themselves, no point in getting points when we don't expect any and then lose points when we should've been getting them. That was the worst game of the season, lets hope it's never repeated. COYF
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finchy
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Post by finchy on Jan 7, 2013 9:54:21 GMT
Well just watched Todd and Danny's post match interviews and the supposed criticism of the team on here is very LIGHT compared to what the coaching team made of it all! I think it's fair to say they are unhappy and Todd also mentioned that they need to be accountable to the fans.
What was also significant was that they both said this wasn't just a one off or one bad night.
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Post by dysartflyer on Jan 7, 2013 10:16:59 GMT
It was an embarassing performance against a short-benched team. Braehead were down to the bare bones but that still included classy players like Goldie and Nicoletti and they stuck at it and in the end won convincingly. We continually dumped the puck in the corner but gave up the puck on the boards when two players on one, again and again. The Pittons kept us in the game, but I thought 1-0 was daylight robbery at the end of the first and that it could only get better. Unfortunately it didn't. Without Casey's silky skills we were back to looking one dimensional. Hey ho onward and upwards.
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Post by sparkymark75 on Jan 7, 2013 11:04:46 GMT
Why if the forwards are going for a line change do we give possession back to the opposition by dumping it in? Surely it's better to give the puck back to the defence whilst we change the forwards, regroup and then launch another attack? IIHF rule perhaps?
Done it again, soz....monday heed lol
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Post by waterboy on Jan 7, 2013 12:33:26 GMT
Dump and Chase can and does work but we only played the first part off the system last night. On a few occasions we did get it right but most of the time we simply gave away the puck and invited Braehead to come at us again.
If ever a game needed a true bench coach to change things it was last night. None of the lines were working yet nothing changed, after a few off the penalties, some guys should have been sat on the bench for the remainder but again nothing happened. Dont understand why Soony wasn't used either he might not be the best player on the team but he does give his all and would have gotten stuck in at least.
The second Line was very poor IMO.
Just hope we sort it out in training this week because Steelers will hammer us if we play anything remotely close to that again.
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Post by The Horse™ on Jan 7, 2013 13:06:58 GMT
A bad day at the office, thats all....the guys will bounce back. Can't win them all...boys will feel bad enough without getting pelters on here Pretty sure Todd said that after the game last weekend. I take it we are allowed to air our views on the game on here? Yes you are aloud to air your views...This was MY OPINION or am I not aloud one because I moderate? The point I was trying to make is, peeps are sometimes quick to jump on and moan rather than wait till they've calmed doon first.
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Post by The Horse™ on Jan 7, 2013 13:15:02 GMT
Why if the forwards are going for a line change do we give possession back to the opposition by dumping it in? Surely it's better to give the puck back to the defence whilst we change the forwards, regroup and then launch another attack? IIHF rule perhaps? By dumping the puck, we are forcing the opposition to turn and go back and pick up the puck....they are already short, so by making them turn and go back we are also hopefully tiring them out by doing this...we are also then forcing their tired D to play the puck quick, which can again generate turn overs by our fresh forwards who are straight on fore checking
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Post by watcher on Jan 7, 2013 13:31:29 GMT
When I started this thread it was not to "slag off" any individual players. I tried to get my frustrations off my chest with a little humour. We play as a team and should get praise/criticism as a team. I totally agree with concerns re the negativity aspect that often appears on the forum - but that is what passion in supporting a team can sometimes generate due to frustration. EVERYONE is hurting after last night and we WILL bounce back. There is no better time to do it than against the Steelers on Saturday night. COYF
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