Don't take the pi$h

[jeeves]

What was it...?

[watcher]

So is Barasso any good as a coach? Results suggest his systems are wrong or the players do not have the ability to carry out his plans. Wont be the first big name not to be able to deal with the different situation in the EIHL.

[finchy]

Jan 27, 2019 17:54:49 GMT thebluewellies said:

Tom barraso reaction to Steelers getting thumped by the Clan.... need a bit of that in FIA?

A bit of what?

Getting beat 6-0 by Clan or the coach swearing? Don’t think I’d fancy either tbh.

If Todd had as poor a record as Barraso and was in danger of missing the play-offs with a huge budget and Brits like O’Connor, Dowd, Whistle and Phillips I doubt he’d get much understanding from the fans whatever he said or did.

Not saying we’re perfect but I can’t see why you’d highlight a massively failing coach and club and say you’d like to see a bit of that in Fife.

[superpatsy]

Jan 28, 2019 13:33:30 GMT finchy said:

Jan 27, 2019 17:54:49 GMT thebluewellies said:

Tom barraso reaction to Steelers getting thumped by the Clan.... need a bit of that in FIA?

A bit of what?

Getting beat 6-0 by Clan or the coach swearing? Don’t think I’d fancy either tbh.

If Todd had as poor a record as Barraso and was in danger of missing the play-offs with a huge budget and Brits like O’Connor, Dowd, Whistle and Phillips I doubt he’d get much understanding from the fans whatever he said or did.

Not saying we’re perfect but I can’t see why you’d highlight a massively failing coach and club and say you’d like to see a bit of that in Fife.

I mind people saying the same thing about Chernomaz when he threw a wobbler and started launching sticks because it shows 'passion'. Imagine watching that and thinking that's what we need...

[amazepux]

The aggressive 'calling out publicly of underperformers in team can only be used sparingly (if at all) by coaches. When used regularly it can have a negative effect on the player(s) subsequent performance. A coach has to have a good awareness not only of the skillset of his players but also of what motivates them to perform. Bearing in mind there are 20+ players involved it cant be an easy task.
A good coach will reprimand privately or within the locker room.
A good example of this may be Alex Ferguson who would defend his players vigourously in the media but i think gave them it tight privately.

[ronniemac]

A good coach will reprimand privately or within the locker room.
A good example of this may be Alex Ferguson who would defend his players vigourously in the media but i think gave them it tight privately.

EXACTLY the way to go about business, going public with every gripe blaming everybody but themselves is not smart ....... wait a MO that's what happens at FF.

[boschman76]

A bad workman always blames his tools only at the Fia a bad coach always blames his players

[bobdee]

Jan 29, 2019 13:21:12 GMT boschman76 said:

A bad workman always blames his tools only at the Fia a bad coach always blames his players

Well said

[finchy]

So thread starts off praising another coach for lambasting his team in public and saying we need a bit of that in Fife... and within a few posts Todd’s getting slagged off for erm... lamabasting his team in public....

What is actually meant to happen? Its getting confusing.

There are no doubt some justified gripes in general but does this not prove that sometimes Todd cant win?

[bobdee]

Nice to see "Attacus" Finchy coming to the defence and trying to kill the mocking of TD.
Maybe write a book about it.

[finchy]

Jan 30, 2019 9:43:44 GMT bobdee said:

Nice to see "Attacus" Finchy coming to the defence and trying to kill the mocking of TD.
Maybe write a book about it.

Instead of playground name calling why don’t you comment on what I’ve posted?

Do you agree the now deleted first post was someone saying we need the coach criticising the team publically and then other posters came on and criticised ‘TD’ for doing just that? Damned if you do and damned if you don’t?

If you think I’m a blind defender of the club you’re mistaken.

[boschman76]

Finchy its not the case off him getting dammed if he does or doesn't publicly have a go at the players it's the fact he does it every season it's always the players haven't done this or done that you can only blame the players so many times before you have to look at yourself as a coach at the end of the day he signs these players no one else not tam Muir not the fans but him and still after all the seasons we have been in the eihl he still cannot build a balanced side. We have gone from one extreme of last season having to many puck carrying d men to this season having none now I'm no coach but even I know your pair of d men should consist of a big physical stay at home dman and good puck carrying d man on your first 2 lines. It seems to me this season we are trying to get our d men to carry the puck when imo its not roles they have had to do at previous clubs and the fault for that falls squarely on the shoulders of the guy who signed them

[finchy]

Jan 30, 2019 17:41:14 GMT boschman76 said:

Finchy its not the case off him getting dammed if he does or doesn't publicly have a go at the players it's the fact he does it every season it's always the players haven't done this or done that you can only blame the players so many times before you have to look at yourself as a coach at the end of the day he signs these players no one else not tam Muir not the fans but him and still after all the seasons we have been in the eihl he still cannot build a balanced side. We have gone from one extreme of last season having to many puck carrying d men to this season having none now I'm no coach but even I know your pair of d men should consist of a big physical stay at home dman and good puck carrying d man on your first 2 lines. It seems to me this season we are trying to get our d men to carry the puck when imo its not roles they have had to do at previous clubs and the fault for that falls squarely on the shoulders of the guy who signed them

A lot of points that I don’t disagree with but the thread is about Steelers coach criticising his players, and the original poster asked if we ‘need a bit of that at FIA’.

Maybe the answers underneath explain why that post has been deleted.