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Post by sectiongee007 on Apr 5, 2019 9:48:05 GMT
Panthers Alax Guptill one match suspension has been overturned by Hicks so it allows him to be iced against the Flyers this weekend
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ronniemac
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Post by ronniemac on Apr 5, 2019 12:09:06 GMT
Conspiracy gains another notch, not showing on the EIHL website yet ?
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Post by perfectnightmare on Apr 5, 2019 12:18:49 GMT
Very convenient eh
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Post by superpatsy on Apr 5, 2019 13:30:50 GMT
Makes you wonder, what's the point in having rules and regulations?
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Post by tackleberry on Apr 5, 2019 15:16:35 GMT
Panthers Alax Guptill one match suspension has been overturned by Hicks so it allows him to be iced against the Flyers this weekend Link? Or are you 🎣
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Post by watcher on Apr 5, 2019 16:33:36 GMT
Suspension never announced, as far as I know. Believe there is a rule re auto 1 match suspension for fighting in the latter stages of a game but I cannot find the EIHL rules online! Did find this though and cannot understand why any suspension (if there was one) could be appealed/overruled. "A ban of seven (7) games or less cannot be appealed. This is a decision taken by the Elite League board because the appeals process can be both complex and expensive. This was agreed by all 12 teams making up the board." The EIHL website continues to state "DOPS is run by former NHL linesman Lyle Seitz and the Player Safety Committee (PSC)." I refuse to believe that Seitz continues to have any role in the process given the shambles this season. Found a link to a similar situation last season when a player was suspended by DOPS for exactly the same offence as Guptil. THERE IS A PRECEDENT! eliteleague.co.uk/2018/01/01/dops-suspend-steelers-wallace-for-1-game/
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Post by watcher on Apr 5, 2019 16:39:15 GMT
Could also add this to the mix and ask why there was no info re the requested reviews from Flyers re hits on Schaber and Aarsen.
"DOPS will liaise with all affected clubs as soon as an automatic review is triggered or a requested review is received. Once the review has taken place, DOPS release information relating to all reviews that have been undertaken to all clubs. DOPS will then liaise with the EIHL Media team to release the information publicly."
As no info was released re the requested reviews are the EIHL actually breaking their own, laid down, procedures?
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Apr 5, 2019 18:06:57 GMT
Suspension never announced, as far as I know. Believe there is a rule re auto 1 match suspension for fighting in the latter stages of a game but I cannot find the EIHL rules online! Did find this though and cannot understand why any suspension (if there was one) could be appealed/overruled. "A ban of seven (7) games or less cannot be appealed. This is a decision taken by the Elite League board because the appeals process can be both complex and expensive. This was agreed by all 12 teams making up the board." The EIHL website continues to state "DOPS is run by former NHL linesman Lyle Seitz and the Player Safety Committee (PSC)." I refuse to believe that Seitz continues to have any role in the process given the shambles this season. Found a link to a similar situation last season when a player was suspended by DOPS for exactly the same offence as Guptil. THERE IS A PRECEDENT! eliteleague.co.uk/2018/01/01/dops-suspend-steelers-wallace-for-1-game/Boxhill got a one game suspension in February for instigator in last 5 minutes...so the rule I'd there this season
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Post by watcher on Apr 5, 2019 18:34:52 GMT
Been on the Panthers Forum and, interestingly, they are surprised at the Bulmer ban and they are also wondering why nothing has been said about the suspension that Guptil should have. Dirty tricks going on here. The video clearly shows Guptil instigating the fight and fulfilling all the criteria for a one match ban. So why nothing given?
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Post by perfectnightmare on Apr 5, 2019 18:44:22 GMT
Been on the Panthers Forum and, interestingly, they are surprised at the Bulmer ban and they are also wondering why nothing has been said about the suspension that Guptil should have. Dirty tricks going on here. The video clearly shows Guptil instigating the fight and fulfilling all the criteria for a one match ban. So why nothing given? Noticed both panthers and neutral fans on Facebook saying the same! But naw it’s just all us mad conspiracy fifers 😂
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Post by finchy on Apr 6, 2019 9:42:06 GMT
Not a word from the league or DOPS.
I disagree with a lot of instigator penalties but this one was a textbook example of one. There is no justification for over turning it and incredible that noting whatsoever has been said by the league if it has.
If I’m a Panthers fan I’m embrrassed by this. A victory for them is as hollow as it could possibly be.
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Post by watcher on Apr 6, 2019 11:11:45 GMT
You would be hoping the Flyers management was on top of this? Either questioning the lack of suspension from DOPS earlier in the week or using the (possible) lack of info to raise a point regarding his elegibility with the officials if he appears on Panthers roster tonight?
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Post by swarfiga on Apr 6, 2019 11:31:39 GMT
I really hope we completely hammer them this weekend, this is getting beyond a joke now
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Post by greyhound on Apr 6, 2019 11:52:59 GMT
If this is true, and it can be shown instances that this rule has been applied this season or last, then this is really serious, and a blatant show of corruption by a board who think they are above they're own rules.
I'm not in the know but we should be demanding all the instances of double standards we have seen, along with this are explained, perhaps an online petition or similar, also demanding the Flyers and other clubs address this.
We have seen before that only when shamed ie Fretter incident is something done.
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Post by watcher on Apr 6, 2019 12:12:00 GMT
There should be full transparency around DOPS. All reviews, automatic or requested, should be announced and judgements publicly announced with reasons. Only by doing this will DOPS have any credibility.
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