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Post by perfectnightmare on Aug 8, 2019 10:24:02 GMT
Not aimed at anyone in particular but just a wee reminder that while we all have our opinions on players, let’s keep it constructive. Last thing the players/team need is having their confidence shattered seeing themselves being torn to shreds on social media, before the season has even started. You never know who is behind a username (well, I do 😂), so something to be mindful of before you hit post.
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Post by thebluewellies on Aug 8, 2019 11:00:06 GMT
Not aimed at anyone in particular but just a wee reminder that while we all have our opinions on players, let’s keep it constructive. Last thing the players/team need is having their confidence shattered seeing themselves being torn to shreds on social media, before the season has even started. You never know who is behind a username (well, I do 😂), so something to be mindful of before you hit post. I hear what your saying however my opinion is that it's part and parcel of being a professional sportsman and in the times of social media. Fans have the right to express views and opinions that are ice hockey related as long as they are not being personal to something off ice. You make the rules but just my opinion.
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Post by perfectnightmare on Aug 8, 2019 11:38:59 GMT
Not aimed at anyone in particular but just a wee reminder that while we all have our opinions on players, let’s keep it constructive. Last thing the players/team need is having their confidence shattered seeing themselves being torn to shreds on social media, before the season has even started. You never know who is behind a username (well, I do 😂), so something to be mindful of before you hit post. I hear what your saying however my opinion is that it's part and parcel of being a professional sportsman and in the times of social media. Paying fans have the right to express views and opinions that are ice hockey related as long as they are not being personal. You make the rules but just my opinion. As I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion I’m not trying to restrict that. However I am not willing to have this place descend into a slagging match, when let’s face it most of the keyboard warriors on social media wouldn’t dare say what they type in person to the guys (if anyone does feel like doing that then please give the rest of us a heads up so we can get a laugh). Anyone wanting to fling insults is more than welcome to take it to Facebook or twitter where it seems anything goes, which is what I’m trying to prevent being the case here as well. All I’m saying is remember there is a person at the other end of it. Tbh whether they are liked or not by individual fans is irrelevant now as they are on the team for the coming season. You can never please everyone. The “paying fans” deserve a team that plays with confidence and part of that is fans getting behind the team we have and at least waiting til there’s actually something to CONSTRUCTIVELY comment on. We’re not even started with the pre season or finished signing guys yet, and the team has already been written off. That helps no one and when guys are considering where to sign, the fans are going to be part of that decision. If they see already signed players being destroyed by their own fan base, it’s not really an incentive to accept the (wider than money) package Fife has to offer, against some of the bigger budget teams. As I said my comments were not just about on here but what I see over all social media platforms.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Aug 8, 2019 11:56:57 GMT
That sounds like a happy clapper post...the buety of this forum was that people could say what they want and if agreed with then it was liked and disagreed with they got shot down, don't water it down to the you can only say nice things mentality. It's unofficial, as long as not crude or crass I think opinions must be heard
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Post by nm1 on Aug 8, 2019 12:25:30 GMT
The negativity has been caused by the club's disastrous PR and a signing policy of having half a team signed when others have completed their rosters. And a fairly predictable and ultimately poor end to the season. Tbh I think most people are reasonably respectful on here and will continue to post positive or negative as it happens. No one can tell anyone otherwise. I would also doubt many players are on here, if they want to be offended all they have to do is look on Facebook!
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Post by zamboni on Aug 8, 2019 12:38:15 GMT
There is no doubting there is knowledgeable people on this Forum who have been involved in the game or followed ice hockey for a long time. However at times it seems its all negative no matter what, and when something good happens radio silence from these individuals. You ask why they then even bother if its that upsetting. Example two seasons ago we won the Gardiner Confrence and made it for a third time to Nottingham weekend, pre-season that year same thing coaches slaughtered for rubbish recruitment and team was written off before they even left to get here Then the Scottish cup weekend at Murrayfield changed many views Give the guys a chance before they are rubbished. The club should have a fans AGM where points of diffrence could be put accross for responces back on some of the ups and downs This pre-season has probably been the worst since season one with little or nothing coming out from the club and the poor announcement errors and lack of PR thats what angers the fans. A feedback session would be welcomed but doubt there is a willingness from the club. Small changes can make a big diffrence
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Post by perfectnightmare on Aug 8, 2019 12:58:11 GMT
Its not about only saying nice things. As I said it wasn’t directed at any comment in particular nor was it an attempt to censor people’s opinions. It was more from what I’ve been noticing online in general (which is not new). Just don’t think it helps anyone, fans or team alike.
NM you’re right folk will continue to post whatever, but as I’ve said let’s try and keep it constructive and just be considerate. It’s not difficult. I completely understand where a lot of the negativity is coming from, I’m frustrated too but exactly what you said - post positive or negative as it happens. At least give the team the chance to show their merits before they’re written off as finishing last and all the rest of the guff that’s being spouted. You’d be surprised who we have as members on here.
End of the day I’d rather be a constructive “happy clapper” than an “unhappy never-clappy” (petition to have the other side known as this 😂) with nothing positive to say about anything. I had intended to contact the club and try to get discussion going in the off season, however life had other ideas. Still intend to take ideas forward when things settle down enough for me to commit to it.
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Post by perfectnightmare on Aug 8, 2019 12:59:05 GMT
There is no doubting there is knowledgeable people on this Forum who have been involved in the game or followed ice hockey for a long time. However at times it seems its all negative no matter what, and when something good happens radio silence from these individuals. You ask why they then even bother if its that upsetting. Example two seasons ago we won the Gardiner Confrence and made it for a third time to Nottingham weekend, pre-season that year same thing coaches slaughtered for rubbish recruitment and team was written off before they even left to get here Then the Scottish cup weekend at Murrayfield changed many views Give the guys a chance before they are rubbished. The club should have a fans AGM where points of diffrence could be put accross for responces back on some of the ups and downs This pre-season has probably been the worst since season one with little or nothing coming out from the club and the poor announcement errors and lack of PR thats what angers the fans. A feedback session would be welcomed but doubt there is a willingness from the club. Small changes can make a big diffrence Thank you, I’m glad at least one person understands where I’m coming from
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 17:52:55 GMT
The negativity has been caused by the club's disastrous PR and a signing policy of having half a team signed when others have completed their rosters. And a fairly predictable and ultimately poor end to the season. Tbh I think most people are reasonably respectful on here and will continue to post positive or negative as it happens. No one can tell anyone otherwise. I would also doubt many players are on here, if they want to be offended all they have to do is look on Facebook! NM1, I totally agree here! The club brings it on themselves. Imagine not wanting to let the fans know they have signed Carlo Finucci, Bari McKenzie, Danick Gauthier, Scott Aarssen, Michel Gutwald, Adam Morrison and the Crowder bothers for example..they should be shouting from the roof tops to try sell more tickets. Its the same for ACMB, get that sponsor announced as returning! They need to sell cars to help finance the deal they have with the team, stop being so pre-historic!
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Post by joestoyanovich on Aug 8, 2019 18:09:33 GMT
The unfortunate thing is for many it is all negative with the club laying themselves open to criticism by shockingly bad PR and suspect management. When your down and angry it's easy to criticise everything, players you've never seen in a Flyers jersey included.
Our great club needs a shakedown from top to bottom.
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Post by amazepux on Aug 8, 2019 18:53:42 GMT
We should be getting behind the team now.
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Post by bobdee on Aug 8, 2019 18:56:14 GMT
The unfortunate thing is for many it is all negative with the club laying themselves open to criticism by shockingly bad PR and suspect management. When your down and angry it's easy to criticise everything, players you've never seen in a Flyers jersey included. Our great club needs a shakedown from top to bottom. Completely agree but is the club's heart really in the Elite League?
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Post by boschman76 on Aug 8, 2019 19:08:29 GMT
I think part of the problem is that alot of the older supporters remember the late eighties and what the auld barn was like how if you didn't have a ticket you struggled to get in and know with the right type of team on the ice the auld barn could be like that again and I think that is where alot off the frustration comes from. Where as a lot of the supporters who have really just started going since we came into the league have never experienced that appear to be just happy we are in the league.
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Post by rossco on Aug 8, 2019 19:54:54 GMT
I've read the same stuff from the same people for years in here. Perfect where have you been ? 😭
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Post by bevster on Aug 8, 2019 20:21:21 GMT
I think if you buy a merc from uncle Arnold you should get a free season ticket thrown in. 😂😂
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