2020/ 21 Season

[ronniemac]

Speaking to a well known face with direct knowledge of internal affairs at Manchester last night we were informed that without doubt Flyers are in the EIHL for 20/21 ....no surprise that TD should be at the helm, well some good news at least.

[Dirty Lyle]

Jan 19, 2020 11:02:31 GMT ronniemac said:

Speaking to a well known face with direct knowledge of internal affairs at Manchester last night we were informed that without doubt Flyers are in the EIHL for 20/21 ....no surprise that TD should be at the helm, well some good news at least.

If we are, I would think Todd will still be involved but maybe not in coaching.. looking at his face during games and interviews you can tell he knows that it's time for someone else to take the reigns..but who, you need someone who will take the owners ****

[zamboni]

Paul Thomson

[waterboy]

Jan 19, 2020 11:02:31 GMT ronniemac said:

Speaking to a well known face with direct knowledge of internal affairs at Manchester last night we were informed that without doubt Flyers are in the EIHL for 20/21 ....no surprise that TD should be at the helm, well some good news at least.

Unless the owners change their ways on running this club and start better PR, get guys signed up early (and at least a few who will fight and defend this club on the ice) i'm afraid it will very quickly become who cares if they are playing at all next season.

This club needs to change and in a hurry. If it is the same summer as the last 2 and todd returns they would be as well not bothering!

[Deleted]

Jan 19, 2020 13:44:05 GMT zamboni said:

Paul Thomson

hahahaha not a chance. 

Any coach who want's to keep any sort of reputation or know's this league and the players who have played in Fife would know to stay well clear! Why, because everyone who's anyone know's the owners of the club don't allow the coach to recruit, they all know you submit a wish list and the owners tell you yes or no, as they control the purse and don't give you a budget to work from.

I had a look at other teams coaching changes since we joined the elite league and our season's records -

We have had 1 head coach since we joined the EIHL (9 seasons)- (I deliberately left out Storm and Flames due to their changes and short time in league)

Dundee - 4 head coaches
Glasgow - 6 head coaches
Fife - 1 head coach

Cardiff - 2 head coaches (very successful)
Coventry - 4 head coaches
Sheffield - 5 head coaches
Nottingham - 3 head coaches
Belfast 5 head coaches


2011/12 season was out worst season with only 8 wins and 40 losses
2019/20 season currently sitting at 11 wins 21 losses and looking to be our second worst season.

Every other season we have been around +/- 50 hockey. Our best season so far has been 2017/18 with 33 wins 21 losses, a Gardner conference win and a semi final spot at the play offs. Last season fell short on the league and we lost out on everything else in the second half of the season (from the looks of what I can see with more losses than wins).

So what has changed from half way through last season? Two different teams I know, but still on the downwards slope???

We hear all the grumblings about other things in the club, but there has to be a bigger reason.

[nm1]

Martin Grubb

[zamboni]

Jan 19, 2020 16:05:22 GMT nm1 said:

Martin Grubb

Martin and his brother grew up in Chapelhill Kirkcaldy
Hockey nets were out in the street every night
You had to watch not run them over

[thebluewellies]

And the relevance to a season 20/21 post in a fife flyers forum is?

[waterboy]

Jan 19, 2020 15:56:30 GMT @no31 said:

Jan 19, 2020 13:44:05 GMT zamboni said:

Paul Thomson

hahahaha not a chance. 

Any coach who want's to keep any sort of reputation or know's this league and the players who have played in Fife would know to stay well clear! Why, because everyone who's anyone know's the owners of the club don't allow the coach to recruit, they all know you submit a wish list and the owners tell you yes or no, as they control the purse and don't give you a budget to work from.

I had a look at other teams coaching changes since we joined the elite league and our season's records -

We have had 1 head coach since we joined the EIHL (9 seasons)- (I deliberately left out Storm and Flames due to their changes and short time in league)

Dundee - 4 head coaches
Glasgow - 6 head coaches
Fife - 1 head coach

Cardiff - 2 head coaches (very successful)
Coventry - 4 head coaches
Sheffield - 5 head coaches
Nottingham - 3 head coaches
Belfast 5 head coaches


2011/12 season was out worst season with only 8 wins and 40 losses
2019/20 season currently sitting at 11 wins 21 losses and looking to be our second worst season.

Every other season we have been around +/- 50 hockey. Our best season so far has been 2017/18 with 33 wins 21 losses, a Gardner conference win and a semi final spot at the play offs. Last season fell short on the league and we lost out on everything else in the second half of the season (from the looks of what I can see with more losses than wins).

So what has changed from half way through last season? Two different teams I know, but still on the downwards slope???

We hear all the grumblings about other things in the club, but there has to be a bigger reason.

Every other season we have had defencemen who can handle the puck and set up the play from the backend. We could afford to let our wingers blow the zone because we had quality guys like Young and Moyer who covered the issue with their ability to make plays fromthe goal line. We also had higher quality players up front Leblanc Heelis Bloodoff Schaber (his best season by far) Guys like Issacs and Finucci were 3rd liners. We also had Brits who could play and take ice time from our imports when needed or to cover injuries.

We had goalies who could cover our gaps in tactics and style of play.

Morrison is good but he isnt Shane Owen.

This season and last our defence just isnt good enough, we also only have 6 signed so with one injury the icetime for the remaining guys is horrific.

We have gone from icing brits who learned to play at this level and who played big parts in our line up when it was 10 imports to running with 14 imports and basically no brits. Put any team in that position and they wont succeed over the season.

I said it on here as did others about 3/4 years ago we need to blood in young guys to cover when the older generation move on. We didn't and now we are paying the price.

Lower quality of imports who cant cover for Todd's shambolic systems and no locals getting ice time puts us right where we belong this season.