Ice Hockey Rule

[jonathan]

I have been thinking about this tonight, for no specific reason...

Icing is a rule designed to stop a poor team dumping the puck all the time to get a breather and line change?

Could a team keep a player in the offensive zone and flick a puck to him from the defensive zone, who would then be called offside? This would allow a face off outside the blue line? Is there a rule that states you can't do this?

[sparkymark75]

Yeah, if you deliberately go offside, the face-off is in your end.

[jonathan]

Jan 13, 2013 0:52:22 GMT sparkymark75 said:

Yeah, if you deliberately go offside, the face-off is in your end.

Thanks.

I presume that in some cases (not in my example) this can come down to the referee's interpretation?

[flyersfaninspain]

to the best of my knowledge that is correct sparky

[ronniemac]

If an attacking player is in the other teams defensive zone before the puck ............... he is offside.
The face off is taken back to the face off spot where the pass originated.
The best idea was a Tony Hand pass, hover on the blue line and follow the puck in, if it crosses the goal line and you are first to it you are ONSIDE.

[jonathan]

Jan 13, 2013 1:53:43 GMT ronniemac said:

If an attacking player is in the other teams defensive zone before the puck ............... he is offside.
The face off is taken back to the face off spot where the pass originated.
The best idea was a Tony Hand pass, hover on the blue line and follow the puck in, if it crosses the goal line and you are first to it you are ONSIDE.

So if the original pass came from the neutral zone, but in your half, the face of would be taken from the spot in the neutral zone, so technically a little bit better off than a face-off from icing?

[sparkymark75]

The statement in the IIHF specifically regarding this is;

In violation of this rule, play shall be stopped and a face-off shall be conducted:

1. At the nearest neutral zone face-off spot, if the puck was carried over the blue line by the attacking player.
2. At the nearest face-off spot where the pass or shot originated when the puck was passed or shot over the blue line by the attacking player.
3. At the end face-off spot in the defending zone of the offending team if, in the opinion of the Linesman or Referee, a player has intentionally caused an offside.
4. At the end zone face-off spot in the defending zone of the offending team, if the puck was passed or shot by the attacking player from his defending zone.

[jonathan]

Jan 13, 2013 10:35:37 GMT sparkymark75 said:

The statement in the IIHF specifically regarding this is;

In violation of this rule, play shall be stopped and a face-off shall be conducted:

1. At the nearest neutral zone face-off spot, if the puck was carried over the blue line by the attacking player.
2. At the nearest face-off spot where the pass or shot originated when the puck was passed or shot over the blue line by the attacking player.
3. At the end face-off spot in the defending zone of the offending team if, in the opinion of the Linesman or Referee, a player has intentionally caused an offside.
4. At the end zone face-off spot in the defending zone of the offending team, if the puck was passed or shot by the attacking player from his defending zone.

Braw!

[spudeeelad]

Jan 13, 2013 10:52:27 GMT jonathan said:

Jan 13, 2013 10:35:37 GMT sparkymark75 said:

The statement in the IIHF specifically regarding this is;

In violation of this rule, play shall be stopped and a face-off shall be conducted:

1. At the nearest neutral zone face-off spot, if the puck was carried over the blue line by the attacking player.
2. At the nearest face-off spot where the pass or shot originated when the puck was passed or shot over the blue line by the attacking player.
3. At the end face-off spot in the defending zone of the offending team if, in the opinion of the Linesman or Referee, a player has intentionally caused an offside.
4. At the end zone face-off spot in the defending zone of the offending team, if the puck was passed or shot by the attacking player from his defending zone.

Braw!

Rules like this, although not specifically this, were put in place to deal with strange scenarios like this where teams would take advantage of the interpretation and openness in rules and thus do a form of cheating.

I remember there was a big rule re-write after 1 coach, was continuously exploiting a rule regarding too many men. IIRC, I think it was when they had a certain amount of players in the box and couldn't take any more penalties, he would just deliberately send too many men on the ice knowing the referee couldn't do anything.