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Post by coloradoflyer01 on Jan 12, 2023 21:22:33 GMT
They are all at fault, muir and Wishart for having no ambition and drive to succeed in this league. And thr coaches for staying and making us play this embarrassing hockey every season
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 13:44:43 GMT
Tom & Jack work on loyalty! Both coaches are loyal, so they are loyal in return. That in its self is a bad combination in a results based sport like this, as the club will lose its biggest revenue in the paying punter. Unfortunately like others have said, Todd & Jeff are as good as the club will get at them moment as the directors won't sack them and they won't walk. There is no other previous coach who can walk into their jobs as the game has changed so much, it needs to be someone who's well established or just finished playing and breaking into coaching...it will never change here, it is what it is! :-(
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Post by roryracer on Jan 17, 2023 14:55:13 GMT
How far does the loyalty stretch? How long will it be though until the coaches turn on each other? Based on current results and a definite shift in fans attitudes it wont be long. If crowds dwindle and they start making their voices heard at games, banners of wanting them out, booing.. Will it be Todd saying well we gave Jeff a shot at the coaching and it didnt work, think we should look at me with a player coach and save a wage Or will it be Jeff saying thats Todd got us bottom of the league again with the team he picked, let me take proper charge and save a wage Either way you look at it the Directors see a saving, it is clear to see that cash is king, especially when the crowds are staying away in their hundreds If I were Todd or Jeff I would be making a b line to the owners first before the other one lands me in it Were the results this bad when Danny was with Todd?
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Post by newyorkflyer on Jan 17, 2023 20:11:15 GMT
How far does the loyalty stretch? How long will it be though until the coaches turn on each other? Based on current results and a definite shift in fans attitudes it wont be long. If crowds dwindle and they start making their voices heard at games, banners of wanting them out, booing.. Will it be Todd saying well we gave Jeff a shot at the coaching and it didnt work, think we should look at me with a player coach and save a wage Or will it be Jeff saying thats Todd got us bottom of the league again with the team he picked, let me take proper charge and save a wage Either way you look at it the Directors see a saving, it is clear to see that cash is king, especially when the crowds are staying away in their hundreds If I were Todd or Jeff I would be making a b line to the owners first before the other one lands me in it Were the results this bad when Danny was with Todd? The sad thing is it’s true they are loyal but unfortunately in this case Tom and Jack are being loyal to the wrong people… the fans. We are the ones who matter first and foremost Every. Single. Time. We are the ones who will be there long after the shambles that is “ Dumb and Dumber Era”. Todd loyalty and legacy is now in danger of becoming toxic due to his own stubborn ignorance of admiting he’s taken us as far as he can and leaves with Jeff following at the same time. Dangle the carrot to someone near the end of their career get them on the bench. We can pretty much write this season off again. So we should be trying to get a start on next season.
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Post by boschman76 on Jan 18, 2023 8:45:50 GMT
The flyers fans as always get taken for granted thinking we will just turn up to watch whatever garbage they put on the ice happy to take our money and give nothing back in return
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Post by pete2165 on Jan 27, 2023 15:58:48 GMT
Some strong rumours coming from north of the border, where it seems Dundee, Fife could potentially be dropping out the elite league at the end of this season. Both are rumoured to be interested in joining the likes of Edinburgh Capitals, Aberdeen who are drawing big crowds and making a NIHL/EPL style league. It is also rumoured Coventry could be following suit :blink: anyone else hearing this?? If true, could this be an avenue for Glasgow with all the turmoil and carry on there? Nottingham too as NB continue's to run both clubs near into the ground and guys not getting the essentials from what i am told ;-) and with no buyer on the line, as he's not going to sell or it would have been done by now!! A Edinburgh, Dundee, Fife, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Solway north group with 4-6 imports to start could be a great way to get the UK hockey rolling again...A new fewer import league has to be the way to go, especially when you see so many brits being treated so badly by the Elite League teams...
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Post by tackleberry on Jan 27, 2023 16:22:42 GMT
Some strong rumours coming from north of the border, where it seems Dundee, Fife could potentially be dropping out the elite league at the end of this season. Both are rumoured to be interested in joining the likes of Edinburgh Capitals, Aberdeen who are drawing big crowds and making a NIHL/EPL style league. It is also rumoured Coventry could be following suit :blink: anyone else hearing this?? If true, could this be an avenue for Glasgow with all the turmoil and carry on there? Nottingham too as NB continue's to run both clubs near into the ground and guys not getting the essentials from what i am told ;-) and with no buyer on the line, as he's not going to sell or it would have been done by now!! A Edinburgh, Dundee, Fife, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Solway north group with 4-6 imports to start could be a great way to get the UK hockey rolling again...A new fewer import league has to be the way to go, especially when you see so many brits being treated so badly by the Elite League teams... I would be all for this if they can make it a competitive league with 4-6 imports. Would also like to see maybe 1 home and 1 away cross border fixtures against the likes of Swindon and Peterborough. Leave the Elite league to the arena teams….who knows they might even see sense and come to some sort of compromise on import numbers when they realise there is a real chance of there being a mass exodus from their league.
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Post by ppltms on Jan 27, 2023 16:25:16 GMT
Some strong rumours coming from north of the border, where it seems Dundee, Fife could potentially be dropping out the elite league at the end of this season. Both are rumoured to be interested in joining the likes of Edinburgh Capitals, Aberdeen who are drawing big crowds and making a NIHL/EPL style league. It is also rumoured Coventry could be following suit :blink: anyone else hearing this?? If true, could this be an avenue for Glasgow with all the turmoil and carry on there? Nottingham too as NB continue's to run both clubs near into the ground and guys not getting the essentials from what i am told ;-) and with no buyer on the line, as he's not going to sell or it would have been done by now!! A Edinburgh, Dundee, Fife, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Solway north group with 4-6 imports to start could be a great way to get the UK hockey rolling again...A new fewer import league has to be the way to go, especially when you see so many brits being treated so badly by the Elite League teams... I'll be honest, if I wanted to watch that level of hockey I'd go watch the Kestrels, but I don't! I want to watch the imports, I want to watch Elite league level. So for me, it's a big no.
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Post by domi28 on Jan 27, 2023 17:24:34 GMT
Some strong rumours coming from north of the border, where it seems Dundee, Fife could potentially be dropping out the elite league at the end of this season. Both are rumoured to be interested in joining the likes of Edinburgh Capitals, Aberdeen who are drawing big crowds and making a NIHL/EPL style league. It is also rumoured Coventry could be following suit :blink: anyone else hearing this?? If true, could this be an avenue for Glasgow with all the turmoil and carry on there? Nottingham too as NB continue's to run both clubs near into the ground and guys not getting the essentials from what i am told ;-) and with no buyer on the line, as he's not going to sell or it would have been done by now!! A Edinburgh, Dundee, Fife, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Solway north group with 4-6 imports to start could be a great way to get the UK hockey rolling again...A new fewer import league has to be the way to go, especially when you see so many brits being treated so badly by the Elite League teams... If it's 4-6 imports where would Fife get the rest of the British players to fill the roster?
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Post by roryracer on Jan 27, 2023 19:37:24 GMT
Rumour I heard was it’s Edinburgh and Aberdeen joining the NIHL North league
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Post by Billkmc on Jan 27, 2023 19:43:45 GMT
Some strong rumours coming from north of the border, where it seems Dundee, Fife could potentially be dropping out the elite league at the end of this season. Both are rumoured to be interested in joining the likes of Edinburgh Capitals, Aberdeen who are drawing big crowds and making a NIHL/EPL style league. It is also rumoured Coventry could be following suit :blink: anyone else hearing this?? If true, could this be an avenue for Glasgow with all the turmoil and carry on there? Nottingham too as NB continue's to run both clubs near into the ground and guys not getting the essentials from what i am told ;-) and with no buyer on the line, as he's not going to sell or it would have been done by now!! A Edinburgh, Dundee, Fife, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Solway north group with 4-6 imports to start could be a great way to get the UK hockey rolling again...A new fewer import league has to be the way to go, especially when you see so many brits being treated so badly by the Elite League teams... If it's 4-6 imports where would Fife get the rest of the British players to fill the roster? Probably the Kestrels and the best of the Falcons.
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Post by greyhound on Jan 28, 2023 10:08:20 GMT
Good luck with that. The Kestrels would be a poor level to play in that league they would really struggle at NIHL just now. They would have to hope to entice back the likes of the simpsons, and others that are playing elsewhere then they would have a chance with good coaching of having a really decent team for that level. At the moment the Kestrels structure is not good enough, or at least if the coaching is good enough it is not showing on the ice.
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Post by Billkmc on Jan 28, 2023 11:06:07 GMT
Good luck with that. The Kestrels would be a poor level to play in that league they would really struggle at NIHL just now. They would have to hope to entice back the likes of the simpsons, and others that are playing elsewhere then they would have a chance with good coaching of having a really decent team for that level. At the moment the Kestrels structure is not good enough, or at least if the coaching is good enough it is not showing on the ice. I didn’t say it was a good idea but Tam will go for the cheap option to start with and will only spend when he realises it’s really needed. If this proposed league did happen then some young Scots could get an ok payday as the elite sides would all have to fill their rosters so they could end up with multiple offers.
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Post by greyhound on Jan 28, 2023 11:38:58 GMT
To be fair the list of boys playing elsewhere that are top players snl, or NIHL from Fife is pretty decent. But with no doubt Dutes at the helm, who has he burned his bridges with. And unfortunately the next generation coming through to Kestrels at the moment are not good enough, hence why Tommy Muir was best defenceman still, and likes of young Bean is still one of best forwards, there is nothing coming close. But at least I hear the Flyers at moment are trying to forge links with likes of Solway to get likes of Henderson.
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Post by domi28 on Jan 28, 2023 13:14:29 GMT
If it's 4-6 imports where would Fife get the rest of the British players to fill the roster? Probably the Kestrels and the best of the Falcons. They wouldn't leave the Kestrels when they have been ignored by the Flyers for years. Or if they are good enough they would go down south.
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