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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 15:57:19 GMT
which players playing at present are REAL QUALITY, and would get mentioned in the same breathe as Kuz, medak and so on..will any of them be remembered in 5 or 10 years time as really good players..... so where is the quality ? Just trying to look at it from a different slant
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Post by sparkymark75 on Jan 30, 2013 15:59:31 GMT
Haines and Keller are the standouts skill-wise in our team. Hogg has a great worth ethic and isn't afraid to get to the dirty areas.
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Post by flyer007 on Jan 30, 2013 16:41:43 GMT
Love Hogger he is a typical flyers player he works his socks off every shift and will take a few slashes to score a goal. Reminds me a little of Karry Biette (only plays on the wing).
Hainesy is a phenomenal player and I hope he sticks around especially as we have nursed him through his injury. He seems passionate about the team and I think he would be the first name on my team sheet for next season.
Bryan and Jason will need to stick around to be remembered for a long time both are excellent players but I would struggle to mention Bryan in the same breath as Steve BRIERE unless he stuck around.
Keller is an excellent offensive D man but sometimes struggles defensively and his first pass could be better at times. However, he is a great team guy, works his butt off for the club and that is all anyone could ask. Is he better than Cohey or Maxi in my opinion no but he has been a great signing for us this year.
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Post by ronniemac on Jan 30, 2013 16:56:47 GMT
I don't think we need this debate actually.
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Post by waterboy on Jan 30, 2013 17:02:30 GMT
I would struggle to mention Bryan in the same breath as Steve BRIERE unless he stuck around. Briere was a good keeper, but to make out that he is so far ahead of Bryan is for me well wide of the mark . Bryan has more AHL experience. From watching him this season he is IMO the one of the top 3 that we have had between the sticks(that I have seen during the past 30 years). Your right in the fact to be a true legend for Flyers he would have to stick around but that goes for any player. I think that at this level he gives our team the chance to win games pretty much everytime we step on the ice. I would actually say he is our most important player, we can cope with missing Casey to injury (just) but not so sure that would be the case if we lost Bryan for the same amount of time.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Jan 30, 2013 17:03:50 GMT
Why not its a legitimate question, anyone of them through time if they stuck around long enough have the talent to be talked about as legends, personally the pick of the bunch this year for me is Haines and Kellor, but more than happy for them all to stick around.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Jan 30, 2013 17:10:13 GMT
well said waterboy, for me bryan is awesome if not for him some nights we;d be dead and buried long before we had a chance to win a game , take sunday for instance if not for pitts we'd have been beaten in the 1st period he kept us in it and then we hammered them. casey is phenomenal , caister and keller are also brilliant would love to have seen maxi in this team. hogger works his butt off every night great wee player , zach has been just brilliant as well never gives up and what a shot, jason is superb as well , and boaby well boaby does what boaby does , just get him the puck in the offensive zone he will hurt teams weather it's a pass or a shot
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Post by flyer007 on Jan 30, 2013 17:18:21 GMT
For me a legend has to combine great play, great service and someone who really buys into the club. Guys like Dutes, Mo, Morris, Latto, The King bros etc. I would also include Steve, Karry and Kuz in that list because they won a championship and were the backbone of that side.
Briere was probably not as good as Bryan but he won a championship for us. If Bryan backstops us to the conference then he will be up there with Steve.
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Post by Goalie on Jan 31, 2013 8:26:22 GMT
What's all this nonsense of IF we win the conference, guys, that ship sailed a long time ago, we will be lucky to take 2nd this season, but in the grand scheme of things, that would be great, 2nd in the conference, and c play off spot would and SHOULD be looked at as success this season, yes, we are a historic 75 years old as a club, but, BUT let's not forget we are only a 2nd year elite league team.
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Post by coloradoflyer on Jan 31, 2013 8:36:55 GMT
i also think top 2 in the conf 3rd at very least, make the playoffs and we got to the Quarters of the CC and we are nearly 10 points better of now. i would yes much better and more successful than last year. now for next year we need max imports from the start and may be we have to add 1 or 2 other brits that have experience in this league, and we should be aiming to win the conf and finish in the top 6 and make the playoff weekend
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Post by jonathan on Jan 31, 2013 8:53:23 GMT
What's all this nonsense of IF we win the conference, guys, that ship sailed a long time ago, we will be lucky to take 2nd this season, but in the grand scheme of things, that would be great, 2nd in the conference, and c play off spot would and SHOULD be looked at as success this season, yes, we are a historic 75 years old as a club, but, BUT let's not forget we are only a 2nd year elite league team. 2nd in the Conference doesn't guarantee a play-off spot.
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Post by Dirkster23 on Jan 31, 2013 12:24:45 GMT
which players playing at present are REAL QUALITY, and would get mentioned in the same breathe as Kuz, medak and so on..will any of them be remembered in 5 or 10 years time as really good players..... so where is the quality ? Just trying to look at it from a different slant You do realise Judd Medak only played 14 games for the Flyers? We've got quality in the current squad, but we're playing short on imports and have suffered injuries. Like others have said, we'd need guys to come back and play a few seasons before they're remembered like Morrison, Kuznik etc.
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Post by daviejojo on Jan 31, 2013 13:21:41 GMT
I'd agree, it takes more than a few games to become a legend.
However, I would propose 2 exceptions to that rule...
Doug Smail (just because he was soooooo good) Garret Zemlak (shining light in an otherwise dreadful season, plus....what he did for the Dutes appeal)
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Post by Kev on Jan 31, 2013 13:40:49 GMT
which players playing at present are REAL QUALITY, and would get mentioned in the same breathe as Kuz, medak and so on..will any of them be remembered in 5 or 10 years time as really good players..... so where is the quality ? Just trying to look at it from a different slant You do realise Judd Medak only played 14 games for the Flyers? We've got quality in the current squad, but we're playing short on imports and have suffered injuries. Like others have said, we'd need guys to come back and play a few seasons before they're remembered like Morrison, Kuznk etc. He didnt say he was a legend, just that he was a quality player (going by that post, i dont remember if he called him a legend in a previous post). Davyduke was still my favourite of the pair though.
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Post by Dirkster23 on Jan 31, 2013 14:51:13 GMT
You do realise Judd Medak only played 14 games for the Flyers? We've got quality in the current squad, but we're playing short on imports and have suffered injuries. Like others have said, we'd need guys to come back and play a few seasons before they're remembered like Morrison, Kuznk etc. He didnt say he was a legend, just that he was a quality player (going by that post, i dont remember if he called him a legend in a previous post). Davyduke was still my favourite of the pair though. I didn't say he'd called him a legend. It's all about personal opinion, but i'd be looking for someone that played more than 14 games before I was listing him along with Kuznik as quality guys we've signed.
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