spudeeelad
Junior
Posts: 949
EIHL Team: Manchester Storm
NHL Team: Tampa Bay Lightning
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Post by spudeeelad on Feb 14, 2013 14:15:10 GMT
Are you 100% that they are not being given the chance? If you're juniors are anything like our own, they turn down the chance to train, play and sometimes even sign full time for Phoenix because the money they would be paid (if at all) doesn't justify giving up their day job. None of the Flyers British players are full time hockey players - they all have day jobs. So if our younger guys are not being given the chance to progress, it's nothing to do their work situation. Maybe that's because their job allows them to do so. But others are not so fortunate. I, for example, have an on-call and planned out-of-hours work rota, which means sometimes I am given literally no notice that I am required to work. Thus it means even if I was, say, good enough to be 2nd line on Flyers' team, unless they paid me more than my job (so I could quit my job), then I would not be able to play for the Flyers, despite having the talent to do so.
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Post by shouldknowbetter on Feb 14, 2013 18:17:33 GMT
There were some who trained with the flyers at the start of the season but as soon as the imports arrived they were dumped,since then nothing. There are some playing for the kestrels,and some who no longer play at all,who were given a chance in the snl flyers but the drinking buddies culture which is still holding flyers back ****ed them off so they turned away from flyers,but there are guys there who would drop everything just to get on the bench and 1 in particular would not disappoint. The biggest problem flyers have is there is no one in the team having to fight for their place. They all know come Saturday night they'll be pulling on a flyers shirt regardless of how they performed last week,last month or even in training. It might well look to the coaches that their giving their all but if there's some 18 year old whos hungrier for that place on the team they're gonna try even harder. When these current brit players start losing their slot then well see how many of them will "stick by the club" ,as was said when flyers went snl,when their being used once a month for injury cover.
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flyers4eva
Rookie
Posts: 478
EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: New York Rangers
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Post by flyers4eva on Feb 14, 2013 18:24:24 GMT
Craig and Lee Mitchell really need to be approached if you ask me, both are ahead of the current batch if Brits with the exception of Horne, Dolan and McAlpine
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Post by shouldknowbetter on Feb 14, 2013 18:45:52 GMT
By local Brits, I should say the i mean the Brits who stayed with flyers during the diddy league days. Horne and Dolan had already proved themselves elsewhere. Kyle got off his **** and pushed himself to play at a higher level when the rest didn't.
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Post by shootermcgavin on Feb 14, 2013 20:51:02 GMT
who is this 1 who would not disapoint?
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Post by shouldknowbetter on Feb 14, 2013 21:14:29 GMT
Can't be naming names on here can we?
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Post by sparkymark75 on Feb 14, 2013 21:43:57 GMT
Can't be naming names on here can we? Why not? This forum isn't ran by the club and as long as it's not derogatory, players can be mentioned in posts.
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Post by geordiemunro on Feb 14, 2013 21:45:18 GMT
Can't be naming names on here can we? Why not? If you have an opinion at least back it up with names. Typical of this forum, lots of hints being dropped but no hard detail. For example who are the 'drinking buddies' that only get a game because they supposedly drink with Todd! Also, who are the players that did play in the SNL days but no longer play because they're not in the 'gang'? I can't think of many Players from the SNL days that would make a difference these days.
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Post by shouldknowbetter on Feb 14, 2013 22:08:02 GMT
Thought it was forum rules not to
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flyers4eva
Rookie
Posts: 478
EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: New York Rangers
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Post by flyers4eva on Feb 14, 2013 22:39:34 GMT
Can't be naming names on here can we? who are the players that did play in the SNL days but no longer play because they're not in the 'gang'? I can't think of many Players from the SNL days that would make a difference these days. Aaron Gregor, Willie Nic, Marc Fowley,
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Post by geordiemunro on Feb 14, 2013 23:02:27 GMT
who are the players that did play in the SNL days but no longer play because they're not in the 'gang'? I can't think of many Players from the SNL days that would make a difference these days. Aaron Gregor, Willie Nic, Marc Fowley, I think Aaron Gregor deserved a better chance than he got but would any of these players make a difference? I personally dont think so.
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zico
Rookie
Posts: 230
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Post by zico on Feb 14, 2013 23:38:38 GMT
who are the players that did play in the SNL days but no longer play because they're not in the 'gang'? I can't think of many Players from the SNL days that would make a difference these days. Aaron Gregor, Willie Nic, Marc Fowley, Can't say for Aaron but from what I have seen Willie and Marc are no better than what we have already.
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Post by toomanymen on Feb 14, 2013 23:59:29 GMT
Ill name one, Robin Floyd. Has more natural ability than most of Brit forwards for Flyers. Best prospect at the moment, only 18 I think. But doesn't even get to train with them.
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Post by flyer007 on Feb 15, 2013 0:00:28 GMT
Yeah I agree Zico. I think too many people look at what kids can do at U18, SNL level and think oh this guy deserves a shot the EIHL is a different ball game it is more physical, you don't have time on the puck to make skill moves and as a Brit unless you are outstanding you have to play a checking role and be solid defensively.
I am unaware of any big bodies in the Kestrels with good skating ability and that is the type of player you need at the Elite League level.
It is a bit like talented small guys who never get drafted in the NHL because the league is simply too big for them.
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Post by toomanymen on Feb 15, 2013 0:20:48 GMT
Yeah I agree Zico. I think too many people look at what kids can do at U18, SNL level and think oh this guy deserves a shot the EIHL is a different ball game it is more physical, you don't have time on the puck to make skill moves and as a Brit unless you are outstanding you have to play a checking role and be solid defensively. I am unaware of any big bodies in the Kestrels with good skating ability and that is the type of player you need at the Elite League level. It is a bit like talented small guys who never get drafted in the NHL because the league is simply too big for them. So how are they going to develope if they don't get the chance to train at the higher level?
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